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Bread1 01-19-2018 04:02 PM

What are some good coilovers for an frs under 1000?
 
What are some good coilovers for an frs under 1000?

Leonardo 01-19-2018 04:13 PM

Good for what?


A) Just being lower


B) Comfort DD


C) Track Use


D) All-Around










Hint: Option D - Doesn't really exist.

jasonojordan 01-19-2018 04:16 PM

Ive enjoyed the ISC coilovers I have on my BRZ

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/isc-...l#.WmJR_KinGHs

Bread1 01-19-2018 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 3030509)
Ive enjoyed the ISC coilovers I have on my BRZ

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/isc-...l#.WmJR_KinGHs

I'll check them out thanks!

Bread1 01-19-2018 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3030507)
Good for what?


A) Just being lower


B) Comfort DD


C) Track Use


D) All-Around










Hint: Option D - Doesn't really exist.

Being lower and everyday use

Leonardo 01-19-2018 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread1 (Post 3030527)
Being lower and everyday use



I assume that you don't want springs and shocks; because you want 9.5" wide wheels.


I have 65,000 miles on prokit springs (same as TRD) and stock shocks. Cost me $235.


Something most guys do not talk about: Coilovers have a life of 50K or less. And then will need rebuilt. So, buying an inexpensive set is not always the best idea. Additionally, many of the less expensive coils are not rebuildable, have poor customer service, or if they are rebuildable you may have to pay to ship them out of the country.


I have read many reviews of coils under 1000. Most guys will give a glowing review of what ever they decide. And, since they are buying in the 1000 and under range, probably have not tested other coils. Making a side by side unbiased opinion hard to find.


Keep reading suspension threads in the tech section. Ask some specific questions. Then, make a decision.



Good Luck!

Bread1 01-19-2018 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3030546)
I assume that you don't want springs and shocks; because you want 9.5" wide wheels.


I have 65,000 miles on prokit springs (same as TRD) and stock shocks. Cost me $235.


Something most guys do not talk about: Coilovers have a life of 50K or less. And then will need rebuilt. So, buying an inexpensive set is not always the best idea. Additionally, many of the less expensive coils are not rebuildable, have poor customer service, or if they are rebuildable you may have to pay to ship them out of the country.


I have read many reviews of coils under 1000. Most guys will give a glowing review of what ever they decide. And, since they are buying in the 1000 and under range, probably have not tested other coils. Making a side by side unbiased opinion hard to find.


Keep reading suspension threads in the tech section. Ask some specific questions. Then, make a decision.



Good Luck!

Hmm didn't know that so you just lowered ur car with lowering springs and what wheel size do u have on it?

Leonardo 01-19-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread1 (Post 3030551)
Hmm didn't know that so you just lowered ur car with lowering springs and what wheel size do u have on it?



18x8 +35 225/40 & 18x9 +37 245/35


Konig oversteer wheels. MPSS tires. W/ 10mm front and 5mm rear spacers. ( wheels are +45 and +42 before spacers )


I have camber bolts in the front.

TMF 01-19-2018 06:01 PM

Good coilovers under $1k do not exist, unless you just want to slam your car.

Lowering springs and upgraded dampeners are:
1. Cheaper
2. Handle better (than stock or crappy coiliovers)
3. More comfortable for a DD (e.g. when Koni's are set to full soft, they have arguably a better ride than the stock dampeners)

I ran TRD springs and Koni's and I was still able to fit (with ease) 17x9 +35 wheels. Looked pretty decent in my opinion as well.

https://i.imgur.com/4l0KObth.jpg

On an related note (sorry for the shameless plug), I will be selling these TRD springs (and front/rear sway bars) and Koni's (koni's will be on the car until Spring though). Price? Less than 1k lol. Hit me up if you're interested.

Bread1 01-19-2018 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3030554)
18x8 +35 225/40 & 18x9 +37 245/35


Konig oversteer wheels. MPSS tires. W/ 10mm front and 5mm rear spacers. ( wheels are +45 and +42 before spacers )


I have camber bolts in the front.

Those look great on the car I might look into getting some black version for my firestorm frs! And they a cheaper

bmacfrs 01-21-2018 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread1 (Post 3030527)
Being lower and everyday use

If you are willing to buy a used set that opens other possibilities also. You get better quality and spend less.
I just happen to have a set of RSR sports-i that I could sell. Less than 5k miles on them. Would be a good choice for what you describe.

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Teseo 01-21-2018 12:23 PM

Tein Flex z

jamal 01-21-2018 01:45 PM

To answer the question, I would check out the ST coilover (they're like a kw v1), and some of Tein's new stuff like the flex z. Bilstein B14 is also in the neighborhood but a little more expensive.

Trueweltall 01-21-2018 07:41 PM

https://frsport.com/Sports-Suspensio...p_1554783.html

Leonardo 01-22-2018 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3031406)

I followed the link. Do you have these? Id be interested to hear what someone thought about them.

10mm front and 15mm rear is a very conservitive drop.

Trueweltall 01-22-2018 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3031825)
I followed the link. Do you have these? Id be interested to hear what someone thought about them.

10mm front and 15mm rear is a very conservitive drop.

I do not have them but I plan on getting a set. Not looking to modify my suspension to where I can't drive it up my driveway or have to get crash bolts or control arms to get a stock alignment.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120639

mav1178 01-22-2018 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread1 (Post 3030493)
What are some good coilovers for an frs under 1000?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bread1 (Post 3030527)
Being lower and everyday use

You can lower the car with just springs, so you have to answer secondary questions:

- do you want camber adjustment, or do you want to "set it and leave it"?
- are you trying to fit wide wheels? what offset?
- do you need to adjust the shock settings to match different driving conditions?

If you don't know the answer to these questions I suggest you rethink about the reasons why you want "coilovers". Instead, consider a good spring/shock combo with camber bolts (and perhaps SPC or similar rear lower arm) to get your alignment and car to where you want it to be, just lowered.

Coilovers may give you more suspension travel but in the long run the cons outweigh the benefits, especially if you aren't of the "checking my suspension once a month" type of crowd.

-alex

Leonardo 01-22-2018 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3031842)
I do not have them but I plan on getting a set. Not looking to modify my suspension to where I can't drive it up my driveway or have to get crash bolts or control arms to get a stock alignment.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120639


I thought Florida was flat, but yeah I hear what you are saying. As a replacement set, they look like a good deal. The koni shock cost the same amount and do not come with springs. And the bilstein B6 or B8 shock cost even more.


I am lowered 1" and do not scrape on driveways or hit my side skirts on speed bumps.

mav1178 01-22-2018 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3031842)
Not looking to modify my suspension to where I can't drive it up my driveway or have to get crash bolts or control arms to get a stock alignment.

Any amount of lowering will cause your camber to be not stock. You will not be able to get stock camber in the front, and without camber bolts you will have to deal with excessive tramlining in the front end of your car on grooved or crowned pavements.

Edit: I should note that the stock range is a huge range. One should not use that as a good reference point... or better yet, figure out a good alignment for your own individual needs. Stock: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11016

Trueweltall 01-22-2018 10:25 PM

I've read on here where people with sti springs retained factory alignment settings after going to those.

Ghost of Akina 01-22-2018 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=TMF;3030573]Good coilovers under $1k do not exist, unless you just want to slam your car.

Lowering springs and upgraded dampeners are:
1. Cheaper
2. Handle better (than stock or crappy coiliovers)
3. More comfortable for a DD (e.g. when Koni's are set to full soft, they have arguably a better ride than the stock dampeners)

I ran TRD springs and Koni's and I was still able to fit (with ease) 17x9 +35 wheels. Looked pretty decent in my opinion as well.

https://i.imgur.com/4l0KObth.jpg


+1 to this. A very good option

Yardjass 01-23-2018 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMF (Post 3030573)
Good coilovers under $1k do not exist



This. They don't exist because they don't exist for any car. The closest thing I can think of that's halfway decent for a little more than that is koni sport shocks and ground control coilover sleeves with springs, and I don't even know if they make those for our cars.

HSUBLU 01-23-2018 09:07 AM

Echoing what others here have mentioned already, good coilover systems for less than $1000 isn't a thing. At that price point, you're most likely looking at cut rate systems, and yes, the pun is absolutely intended. If one were to think about being that budget-minded about it, go with lowering springs, or (highly unadvised) just cut your stock springs for free.

WhiteTigerX125 01-23-2018 03:50 PM

What are some good Coilover recommendations. I'm thinking about purchasing the TSW Nurburgring Wheels 18x8 +45mm or the Rays Gram Lights 57CR Gun Blue II 18x9.5 +38mm.

mav1178 01-23-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueweltall (Post 3031977)
I've read on here where people with sti springs retained factory alignment settings after going to those.

Factory is a huge range. The range for camber alone is +/- 0.75 degrees...

Front Camber: 0 +/- 45' (0 +/- 0.75°) (Right/Left Difference: 0°45' (0.75°) or less)
Rear Camber: -1°12' +/- 45' (-1.20° +/- 0.75°) (Right/Left Difference: 45' (0.75°) or less)

Lust 01-23-2018 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMF (Post 3030573)
Good coilovers under $1k do not exist, unless you just want to slam your car.

Lowering springs and upgraded dampeners are:
1. Cheaper
2. Handle better (than stock or crappy coiliovers)
3. More comfortable for a DD (e.g. when Koni's are set to full soft, they have arguably a better ride than the stock dampeners)

I ran TRD springs and Koni's and I was still able to fit (with ease) 17x9 +35 wheels. Looked pretty decent in my opinion as well.

https://i.imgur.com/4l0KObth.jpg

On an related note (sorry for the shameless plug), I will be selling these TRD springs (and front/rear sway bars) and Koni's (koni's will be on the car until Spring though). Price? Less than 1k lol. Hit me up if you're interested.

Good coilovers do exist for that price point. Tein Flex Z and for slightly more Tein Flex A. There’s a thread by CSG Mike with his thoughts on them. I had the street flex for a while and I really enjoyed them as a daily driving damper. The Flex As are supposed to be even better with the HBS and are cheaper because they’re not rebuildable.

churchx 01-23-2018 10:46 PM

Flex Z are cheaper due non rebuildability. Flex A are with HBS and are rebuildable.

Funnily i find that nonrebuildability more convenient way to restore coilover performance w/o local servicing shops nearby or shipping all of them far away for service. Just order new cartridges and have them like new. Shortened/simplified "downtime".

Lust 01-23-2018 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3032653)
Flex Z are cheaper due non rebuildability. Flex A are with HBS and are rebuildable.

Funnily i find that nonrebuildability more convenient way to restore coilover performance w/o local servicing shops nearby or shipping all of them far away for service. Just order new cartridges and have them like new. Shortened/simplified "downtime".

That’s the exact selling point of the Flex Z.


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