Thinking of getting a BRZ
 

I am new to this group and i currently do not own a BRZ, I drive a newer E350 Mercedes coupe. I wouldn't consider myself a car expert because I am used to driving newer cars with no custom work or anything but any advice is greatly appreciated. I am still keeping the Mercedes but I am looking to buy a used BRZ and do some custom work to it. I would most likely be putting a body kit on it (like a matte grey wrap), i am not to fond off slamming it and making it super low, although if it gets slightly lower i am okay with that. I realize the speed is a lot slower, but i am thinking of a Cossworth stage two supercharger to add to it, making the speed a little better. I am wondering everyones thoughts on that and if there are a lot of problems with the supercharge and BRZ in general. I am doing BRZ because i love the look and for 15-18k i can get a slightly used one and have budget left over for custom work

How much time have you spent driving one? Serious question, because I wouldn't make plans for performance upgrades until after you've been behind the wheel for a while. You might even be satisfied with the stock power.

I have no problems getting up to 80 at least and I could easily push it further.

If anything the acceleration can be "slow" if you're in the torque dip range. But the car itself isn't slow.

It is a good project car and there is a large aftermarket available which is nice. Highly recommend getting one and then driving it for awhile before you spend any money on modifications.
I bought one new and had several thoughts on things I wanted to do, but after I actual started driving it that list changed quite a bit. Thoughts of power and engine mods all changed to suspension and brakes.

My car is quickly turning into a track car. Just hit 3000 miles, and already has 5 Track days on it and 1 autox. Ideas put on back burner for now that where some of the first things I wanted to dobefore buying car.
1. Forced Induction
2. Exhaust
3. Tune/Flex Fuel

Actual Mods that have happened instead
1. Camber bolts/Alignment
2. Ferodo DS2500 pads
3. Wheels and tires (ordered not on yet)

As you can see, after driving the list changed dramatically and also got way way cheaper.

I have test drove them and have drove friends BRZ's. My brother owns a 2017 C63s so i am used to driving the power. I would most likely get the BRZ in the next week or two and order the kit too. if you type BRZ in google and go to images, you will see a matte grey one with custom accessories, that is sort of what i am among for look-wise. I am assuming i would have to buy the Kit and matte wrap it and the car then apply it. but as far as the supercharger i could drive it stock for a while and then add it. Is the cossworth the easiest way to gain HP and speed?

I am definitely not going to open that can of worms as to what is easiest way to gain HP, so I will kindly point you in this direction:sign0015:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=78

This car is definitely a good project car. It is a good basis, and with plenty of FI options available and MANY different setups running around you should be able to find the answers to your questions. The cosworth kit is not the most common kit out there, and if you're planning on that anyways....look in to the edelbrock. Supercharging is not the easiest way to make power though, most "high hp" setups are turbo. You have got to determine what your priority is.... high hp, reliability, ease of install, etc, etc.


Bodykits right off the bat, lame. Power mods right off the bat, almost a requirement.... Do the right mods the first time. Don't waste money on stupid shit.

Thank you for the advice, but would it be pointless to add a turbo if i eventually do a supercharge? because i would hate to spend the money on a turbo or two and realize I need more and have to get rid of turbo's. Generally what do turbo's add vs supercharges?

Civic Type R /endthread.

Forget the BRZ as it will be too slow for you. If I was you I would go for the Toyota GT86 as the car is much, much, much quicker due to it having more aerodynamic badging, more aggressive front spoiler that acts as a vortex/vacuum thingy creating a air flow bubble just in front of the Scion/Toyota badge hence helping it cleave a clean shape through the air... and GT on any car adds kudos!

Not a requirement unless you're trying to race Mustangs red light to red light. In which case, you're doin' it wrong.

Having done these types of project cars many times, here is my advice.
Buy car and drive stock for a few months. Then upgrade one thing at a time so you can feel or not feel the difference. If its just a DD and some spirited driving, the stock suspension may be fine. Probably get better tires, that makes the biggest difference.

As for power - I would do a stage 1 plus exhaust of your choice depending on noise level, drive awhile then stage 2 with a header (UEL for subie rumble and low/mid torque, EL for HP.) After that maybe FI - supercharger or turbo.

This could take years or months depending on how crazy you get. The mod bug is a terrible disease and many of us are afflicted.

Why is that the only situation this car can benefit from added power?!?!? :bellyroll:

if you know for sure the stock car holds no interest for you then get yourself a used bmw 135i, install a quaife or mfactory lsd in it and call it a day. you can pick up cpo'ed ones for almost the same money as what you'd spend on your brz plus supercharger kit and youve got your speed off the bat. sounds like you have the money to pay for german car upkeep so there you are.

I think you are assuming that a Supercharger would net you more power. That's incorrect. Turbo's are the best power for this car. Most people running a supercharger on stock internals are getting about 330 whp on e85. (rough number). And thats basically pushing the SC to its limit. Very few people are past that limit and if they are, they have a built motor, smaller high boost pulley and running E85. And i think the most ive seen is 450 whp.

With just the JDL Turbo which is 2999$ you can hit 280-300 whp on PUMP gas. 91-93. It also has the potential to go higher. And the best thing about turbo kits? Want more power? Put a bigger turbo on it.

The PTuning turbo kit can achieve 450 whp on pump gas (built motor recommended) and with the bigger upgraded turbo can hit 600+.

If you want power, buy a turbo. You want reliability, buy a supercharger.

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Lol turbo or two and supercharging..... you're going to need to do a lot of research. This might be one of my favorite comments ever.

That's not even close to what I said, and you know it.

It's not a requirement. It's not almost a requirement. It's not even close to being a requirement. Even in many situations where more power would be helpful, it's still not a requirement.

It is a requirement if you want to drive like enough of a douche in traffic to impress ricers, hillbillies and guidos.

.....yyyeeaahhhh. I said almost a requirement and you equate it to racing mustangs stoplight to stoplight. Its very close to what you said, how can you deny that?

So, you are saying a bump in power is only to drive like a douche in traffic?

Really not understanding the hate for more power in the car.

Go look up "straw man" and come back when you understand it.

Colour me shocked - here you are shaming another newcomer to the forum just because his vision of a BRZ...isn't up to your standards??

What the hell has gone so wrong in your life that THAT post just had to be submitted?


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I understand perfectly well. :thumbup:

I said nothing about standards or shamed anybody's "vision". That was your interpretation of a simple statement on his seemingly contradictory statements.

You can't modify the bodywork of a car who's design you like? I would think anyone who adds a body kit to their car appreciates the fundamental design of their car to begin with. Duh.


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It's your money, do you want with it. Why ask for approval from a bunch of strangers?

With that said, your "vision" for your future BRZ doesn't seem to align with the majority thinking on this forum.

If you like it, why modify it?

On page 2 and no manual vs autotragic yet?

Dont go the FI route, man. Prove that you're a better driver by beating them NA on a slow car.

Not so much that it doesn't align as how and where it was asked. If he went to the body mod sub and asked what was available and if people had input into what was better he would get straight and to the point answers. If he even spent an hour reading through some of the very good FI threads he could form an opinion on what is out there and everything involved in running it. Instead he pops up in the general section and says "I want to mod have no clue what I am doing what do you think?" He is going to get answers he is not looking for but in the long run they may be the right answers. He goes on to talk about putting two turbos on for crying out loud. I would gues that very little research beyond looking at some pictures has gone into the "vision".
The guys that have a true "vision" are not asking "what do you guys think" they are actually researching, asking meaningful questions and then doing. Ya some of the hellaflush yo if you don't like it then you are a hater crowd may take some flack but that is frequently more due to the chip on their shoulder they show up with than people disliking the car. This forum does not subscribe to the everybody gets a participation trophy as some goofbals would like to see.

Turbo charge it!! and a nice matte grey rocket bunny kit.

Nom nom.

Budget like 40k$ total and then love life every day you drive it :P