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Andrew025 06-29-2017 09:06 AM

Washer fluid fill
 
My washer fluid reservoir was empty for about 6 months, so I finally filled it and now my car over steers like crazy.
Did I throw off the weight balance from front to rear and have too much tread on my front tires from the lack of weight? Will rotating my tires fix this?

Tcoat 06-29-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937399)
My washer fluid reservoir was empty for about 6 months, so I finally filled it and now my car over steers like crazy.
Did I throw off the weight balance from front to rear and have too much tread on my front tires from the lack of weight? Will rotating my tires fix this?

You need to install the springs from the 17s in the rear and replace the air in your spare with helium to counter this.


Oh and don't forget to cut your bump stops off.

Dawan 06-29-2017 10:29 AM

You guys are ****s LOL

Andrew025 06-29-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937410)
You need to install the springs from the 17s in the rear and replace the air in your spare with helium to counter this.


Oh and don't forget to cut your bump stops off.

But I already have a 2017?!

I hate this forum. Just full of trolls and you're killing the community. That's why no one is on this forum anymore.

yelsew 06-29-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937426)
I hate this forum. Just full of trolls and you're killing the community. That's why no one is on this forum anymore.

It doesn't matter anyways, These cars are absolutely terrible at everything they do, and you'd be an idiot to buy one. Better buy a superior GTi or something else before your resale value plummets any further...

Tcoat 06-29-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937426)
But I already have a 2017?!

I hate this forum. Just full of trolls and you're killing the community. That's why no one is on this forum anymore.


How on earth did you manage to buy a new one without 28.6 threads asking which one you should get?

See the problem is they used a cut down Impreza platform so you need the springs from a 13 on the front to get it right.


Also need the struts from a 14 on the left and a 16 on the right. All this will work very well with the Torsen LSD. This is important if you don't want to wear your tires out after 3 powerslides.

Tcoat 06-29-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by yelsew (Post 2937428)
It doesn't matter anyways, These cars are absolutely terrible at everything they do, and you'd be an idiot to buy one. Better buy a superior GTi or something else before your resale value plummets any further...

But that seat pattern on the GTi is a deal breaker.

yelsew 06-29-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937430)
But that seat pattern on the GTi is a deal breaker.

Yeah, but I bet Volkswagen covers track use in their warranty. Only Subaru and Toyota don't because they hate us so much.

Tcoat 06-29-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by yelsew (Post 2937431)
Yeah, but I bet Volkswagen covers track use in their warranty. Only Subaru and Toyota don't because they hate us so much.

Well a $25K sports car really should be able to take the pressures of track use without issues. I mean really, I had to save up for 5 years for the down payment.

Andrew025 06-29-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937429)
How on earth did you manage to buy a new one without 28.6 threads asking which one you should get?

See the problem is they used a cut down Impreza platform so you need the springs from a 13 on the front to get it right.


Also need the struts from a 14 on the left and a 16 on the right. All this will work very well with the Torsen LSD. This is important if you don't want to wear your tires out after 3 powerslides.

I've been too busy trying to get ready for prom to make threads about it.
Do I need to remove my sway bar as well?

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 06-29-2017 10:51 AM

Can a full washer fluid reservoir really cause oversteer? First that battery thread, now this. Am I just not as in tune with the car as the rest of youse? What's the capacity of the reservoir anyway? Or is this a troll thread and I'm stupid lol

Tcoat 06-29-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2937437)
Can a full washer fluid reservoir really cause oversteer? First that battery thread, now this. Am I just not as in tune with the car as the rest of youse? What's the capacity of the reservoir anyway?

Satire.

Andrew025 06-29-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh (Post 2937437)
Can a full washer fluid reservoir really cause oversteer? First that battery thread, now this. Am I just not as in tune with the car as the rest of youse? What's the capacity of the reservoir anyway?

It's gotta be at least 10lbs of fluid at the very front of the car.
You obviously need to drive your car more if you can't feel it.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh 06-29-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937438)
Satire.

okay phew

BigTuna 06-29-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937426)
But I already have a 2017?!

I hate this forum. Just full of trolls and you're killing the community. That's why no one is on this forum anymore.

You bought a 2017 and are already out of washer fluid?

If you put a full bottle in, its ~8.5lbs. Definitely not enough to produce noticeable oversteer.

Andrew025 06-29-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigTuna (Post 2937447)
You bought a 2017 and are already out of washer fluid?

If you put a full bottle in, its ~8.5lbs. Definitely not enough to produce noticeable oversteer.

I've had it since December.

I'm pretty sure that's more than enough.

Tcoat 06-29-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937439)
It's gotta be at least 10lbs of fluid at the very front of the car.
You obviously need to drive your car more if you can't feel it.

Better either full or empty than only half full.
If half full it will slosh around at every turn and could cause snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer,then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer,

STV3 06-29-2017 12:01 PM

I once switched to a heavier weight oil in my FRS and it caused massive understeer. I was plowing into every corner I took...

Tcoat 06-29-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by STV3 (Post 2937484)
I once switched to a heavier weight oil in my FRS and it caused massive understeer. I was plowing into every corner I took...

Wait until you wear half the pads off your front brakes! Total chaos ensues.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6b4f082295.jpg

humfrz 06-29-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937479)
Better either full or empty than only half full.
If half full it will slosh around at every turn and could cause snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer,............,

:slap: ...... OK, lift the needle ....... :D


humfrz

humfrz 06-29-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937399)
My washer fluid reservoir was empty for about 6 months, so I finally filled it and now my car over steers like crazy.
Did I throw off the weight balance from front to rear and have too much tread on my front tires from the lack of weight? Will rotating my tires fix this?

:slap: ....... you should ALWAYS keep your car's fluids topped off ...... I don't care if you do live where it rains every day, all day long, for 11 months out of the year.


humfrz

yelsew 06-29-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2937606)
:slap: ....... you should ALWAYS keep your car's fluids topped off ...... I don't care if you do live where it rains every day, all day long, for 11 months out of the year.


humfrz

SHHHH this thread was not meant for logic

humfrz 06-29-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yelsew (Post 2937611)
SHHHH this thread was not meant for logic

Nor are many threads on this forum ...... :D


humfrz

Andrew025 06-29-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 2937606)
:slap: ....... you should ALWAYS keep your car's fluids topped off ...... I don't care if you do live where it rains every day, all day long, for 11 months out of the year.


humfrz

I usually fill the engine with enough oil that I can see it at the cap.

IceFyre13th 06-29-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937540)
Wait until you wear half the pads off your front brakes! Total chaos ensues.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6b4f082295.jpg

But I thought only Mustangs attacked people.......or could this also be the result of the washer fluid sloshing around???

Tcoat 06-29-2017 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFyre13th (Post 2937737)
But I thought only Mustangs attacked people.......or could this also be the result of the washer fluid sloshing around???

Clearly!

Teseo 06-29-2017 06:10 PM

Put coolant on washer fluid tank so cant evaporate in the meantime

new2subaru 06-29-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937399)
My washer fluid reservoir was empty for about 6 months

I can't believe you got away with that much weight off of the nose. It makes the car dangerously light on the front end!

I heard that's how this one went airborne. Talk to your dealer and read the damn manual!

https://bw-11f9e78e4899a78dedd439fc5...hes-Insdie.png

radroach 06-29-2017 08:57 PM

Look into swapping in a lightweight racing fluid washer fluid. But be sure to fill it up all the way, having the front end so light might cause it to raise up like a drag car on acceleration.

Scrappydoo 06-29-2017 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2937399)
My washer fluid reservoir was empty for about 6 months, so I finally filled it and now my car over steers like crazy.
Did I throw off the weight balance from front to rear and have too much tread on my front tires from the lack of weight? Will rotating my tires fix this?

Easily corrected by fitting negative camber mudflaps.

Search before you ask next time.

IceFyre13th 06-30-2017 05:53 PM

Or front canards upside down

Scrappydoo 06-30-2017 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2937479)
Better either full or empty than only half full.
If half full it will slosh around at every turn and could cause snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer,then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer, then serious understeer, then snap oversteer,

Shouldn't there be a torque dip in the middle of this?

navanodd 07-01-2017 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrappydoo (Post 2938508)
Shouldn't there be a torque dip in the middle of this?

No, of course everyone knows torque dip is more of a topping.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...rque%20dip.jpg

radroach 07-01-2017 03:56 AM

On a side note I downloaded too much data and the server got too heavy

http://i.imgur.com/QTfbxv5.jpg

Andrew025 07-01-2017 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 2938692)
On a side note I downloaded too much data and the server got too heavy

http://i.imgur.com/QTfbxv5.jpg

Wouldn't downloading data make the server lighter?

I don't know much about servers though, except I don't like to tip them. So you may be correct.

humfrz 07-01-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach (Post 2938692)
On a side note I downloaded too much data and the server got too heavy

That's hard to believe ..... what's your download speed, with dial up ... there in Tennessee ..... ??


:D


humfrz

guybo 07-01-2017 04:17 PM

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I filled up my jizzer fluid bottle and it the handling was so bad I had to do a grill delete. I don't know what I'm going to have to delete when I replace my battery :iono:

humfrz 07-01-2017 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2938847)
I filled up my jizzer fluid bottle and it the handling was so bad I had to do a grill delete. I don't know what I'm going to have to delete when I replace my battery :iono:

You should have only deleted the drivers side part of the grill ..... :rolleyes:

Where ever did common sense go ...... :sigh:


humfrz

guybo 07-01-2017 07:03 PM

fuuuuuck, that explains the extra wear on the right side tires. Down to the belts, almost.

Ultramaroon 07-01-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by guybo (Post 2938908)
fuuuuuck, that explains the extra wear on the right side tires. Down to the belts, almost.

No it doesn't. It would if it was the left side.

Corner balance. You move the battery down to the washer bottle.


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