New battery, worse handling
 

So, stock battery wouldn't crank today, got a jump and ran to autozone and put in a Duralast Platinum 35-AGM and now the car's handling is terrible! Left turns are wide and right turns sink like a stone. I think it was a 13lb increase in weight and I can definitely feel it.

What do I do now. I just dropped a lot of money on this battery. What battery should I have gone with??


update: I swapped it for a 26R-DL at autozone. It weighs about 28lbs.

I cannot imagine that your handling got terrible just with a battery swap. How much heavier is the new one? The stock one is around 26lbs.

This one might be about 40 lbs.

Yes it made a huge difference. It sucks.

What battery should I have bought?????!!!!1

Something is wonky. I feel zero difference in a turn with a 200 pound passenger so a slightly heavier battery isn't going to do that to you.


Try disconnecting and reconnecting it. Maybe something messed up with the electric steering (doesn't make sense but worth a shot).


Edit: Disconnecting the battery not the steering.

If that was the case then moving to the 16lbs battery (Braille?) Would do the opposite effect right?

Sure you didn't bump into anything and throw your alignment off?

Sounds strange, but this is also the lightest platform I have been in, so it might.

:popcorn:

Sounds like the poles have been reversed, the symptoms are obvious. Going round left hand corners it is repelling whilst right hand it attracts. It has been magnetised, I suggest you rub the roof a few times then touch a balloon. I suggest you invest in a decent rubber strap that you dangle from your rear diffuser.

I will almost guarenfuckingtee that short of adding or subtracting hundreds of pounds from the car, there is just about 0 chance that you would feel the difference of 20-30 lbs on the street or track.

If that were the case you'd complain every time you put a full tank in.


Something else is up.

Eat a bunch of junk food and become 13lbs fatter to balance out the added weight of the battery

:laughabove: :bellyroll: :bonk:

It's been 3 years, and everytime I read one of your posts or see your name, i imagine that you are in fact rob flanders himself.

Rob?


Gave one of the guys from here a tour of the plant a while back. The first words out of his mouth when he got out of his car were "You really DO look like Flanders".

Funny story, one of the administrators at a customer of mines name is Rob Flanders.

Ned Flanders*

Amazing. Do you sound like him to? haha

Not a fuckiddly chance I sound like him.

^^^^Ned's Brother^^^^


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:slap: ........ there ....... you needed that ...... :D

Now, go find out what's wrong with your car.

* tire pressure ..??

* EPS got messed up (as mentioned)

* alignment got messed up (as mentioned)

* you're just recovering from a hangover (ask @Cole )

* Bubba replaced the battery .. ??

Seriously, what else have you recently done to the car, except change the battery...??


humfrz

Take a deep breath and relax.

Do you really think the a change in your lead/acid accumulator that has affected your "handling" to this degree?

Have you checked your tyre pressures?

I swapped it for a 26R-DL at autozone. It weighs about 28lbs.

I knew this thread would turn into a heckle show of who can and can't feel the weight difference in their car. I stick with the old equation of force = mass x acceleration.

I pretty much immediately knew there was a difference as soon as I took it on my favorite back road, which has a left corner that normally makes the front end of my car bump up twice, I take the corner on the battery with 15lbs more weight and the front end doesn't respond in nearly the same lively way. Then I tried taking the right corner at my apartment, which normally allows my car to do a quarter turn easily, instead the front right sunk right into to it like a stone, did not feel good.

Too tired now to go out an re-learn the throttle again and test this battery, but I'm satisfied that I've got a battery that weighs nearly the same as stock.

It's all in your head.

There are so many more variables that would make it feel different in the way you described.

Have you ever corner balanced a car? I can tell you right now that 15lbs isn't enough to upset it so much that you would feel it in that way.

Just drive your car and stop filling your own head with BS

No, but i have heard some stuff about corner balancing here, someone mentioned in a different thread how adding an OEM Audio+ sub in the rear perfected the corner balance, a 30lb difference or so.

If changing the battery destroys the handling in a car, then every time I fill up with gas the handling in my car (or any car) is completely destroyed!

What you describe is not a corner balance difference.

It sounds like a broken part in the suspension, uneven tire pressure, a whacked out alignment... Depending on what it is, it could be dangerous, but it's not from a 20lb corner weight change.

C

In for the group buy.

Yes, have a lie down.

Really? You truly believe this? You are normally a pretty bright guy but man you went to the darkside on this one. There is not a hope in hell that 10 pounds had any effect on the steering of the car. None.

I had Baconator combo for dinner in the car on the way home.

I was full lock right to keep the damn car going straight.

if its a "stone" in the corner. step on the gas more, and take your turn differently.

Back-in-the-day ........ if I drank about 2 pounds of whisky ....... my car would drive funny ...... :iono:


humfrz

I just got here and I'm 100% with you in perceiving the difference.

...but!...

It's just a minor change that you found irritating. You chose to address it instead of actively overlooking it. :cheers:

Well, I sure hope you don't let @soulreapersteve drive YOUR car ...... because, without your weight on the drivers side ...... it would be a death trap ...... :confused0068:

:D


humfrz

It would flip over. Steve would have to get by making only right turns.

Easy.


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This is why I love our "special" fellow 86 owners.
Sometimes I think nah, there is no way they really wanted to post it. Or it's such a troll post, but do a little digging and peek at some social media and wow, yeah there is gold in them hills.

Any who, cool story bro. (Sell your 86 and buy a civic.) ��

I'll say this when we meet in September. Hope you don't mind.

I'll buy you beer!

I think the OP experienced the dead gas pedal thing after a battery disconnect and a re-calibration of the pedal would have solved it.

That said, a new, new battery fixed it so I'm happy you're all set now.

THIS ^
Never thought of this but yes this would make it feel off for a bit. The ECU needs to relearn.

Well, yeah. I drove my car maybe 40 miles on the first battery, throttle eventually came back. Still the car was really ponderous going around corners. Felt like I had an extra 15lbs of ballast on the front, which it was!

I'm surprised that you are here having survived such olde worlde adventures. Second thought, I suppose a juiced up Cowboy at the helm of a wagon ain't going to hurt no one, nothing to hit out there on the prairie.

When I swapped to a SHORAI battery, I immediately noticed a handling difference due to high C.O.G. weight loss. Not as extreme as you describe, but definitely noticeable. Measured faster lap times also.
Although many sensitive drivers do notice subtle changes, those with m/c racing experience, and veteran m/c riders, tend to have a greater feel for their twins balance and handling.
Civilians and newbies not so much so -
:cheers: