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Da Brz 05-22-2017 05:52 PM

Subaru Guaranteed Trade-in Program
 
Anyone have experience with this?

I was curious about my BRZ and the website said my car does not qualify.

My car was bought within the US, has had no wrecks, had no special circumstances whatsoever. It's not modded except for a K&N. It wasn't leased. And it's not a fleet vehicle.

The only thing I see that might disqualify my car is this part of their fine print: "Vehicles owned by a customer who did not purchase a new Subaru vehicle under this program are not eligible."

So I guess when buying the car, you had to have set it up with the guaranteed trade-in program?

I guess this is meaningless since I don't plan on trading the car, but that seems like shady practices. Subaru seems to advertise this a lot and for them to say I don't qualify for seemingly no reason at all is kind of junky, IMO.

imnotsureaboutbrz 05-22-2017 05:59 PM

are you the original owner of the car?

Da Brz 05-22-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by imnotsureaboutbrz (Post 2914667)
are you the original owner of the car?

Yeah.

swarb 05-22-2017 06:08 PM

It's a bastard child.
Also, they don't sell well to begin with. Not enough profit for them to take the risk.

trippinbillies40 05-22-2017 06:27 PM

PM me your vin and I'll look into it for you.

The Headhunter 05-22-2017 06:38 PM

When I traded in my Forester for my BRZ, I used the G.T.I.P. The dealer was offering me $700 less then the G.T.I.P. I showed them the certificate and they game me the higher value from the cert.

alan.chalkley 05-22-2017 08:26 PM

Just more feel good B.S.
Like their fixed price routine service:thumbdown:

Da Brz 05-23-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by alan.chalkley (Post 2914748)
Just more feel good B.S.
Like their fixed price routine service:thumbdown:

Yeah, when I bought mine, they said they'd "throw in" 2-years free service. It was honestly one of the reasons I bought the car over the NC I had been looking at.

I'm at 30k miles now in my first year and they say they won't pay for anymore services. The salesman didn't mention that there was a mileage cap to those "free services for two years." A regular oil change and service is $320 at my dealership, which is insane. I used to pay $60-$90 when I had a Mazda, which was high but it kept me in the dealer's good graces if I ever needed warranty work. $320, to me, is highly suspect.

jasonojordan 05-23-2017 10:20 AM

I got one of the GTIP vouchers in the mail the other day from the dealer I bought it from.

jasonojordan 05-23-2017 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2914967)
Yeah, when I bought mine, they said they'd "throw in" 2-years free service. It was honestly one of the reasons I bought the car over the NC I had been looking at.

I'm at 30k miles now in my first year and they say they won't pay for anymore services. The salesman didn't mention that there was a mileage cap to those "free services for two years." A regular oil change and service is $320 at my dealership, which is insane. I used to pay $60-$90 when I had a Mazda, which was high but it kept me in the dealer's good graces if I ever needed warranty work. $320, to me, is highly suspect.

$320 just for a oil change?!

Tcoat 05-23-2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2914978)
I got one of the GTIP vouchers in the mail the other day from the dealer I bought it from.

I still get them in the mail from the similar program by Mitsubishi for my 2008 Lancer GTS. Apparently they are in "huge" demand and they will guarantee my trade in value for another year. It is just another way to get you in the door.

jasonojordan 05-23-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2914989)
I still get them in the mail from the similar program by Mitsubishi for my 2008 Lancer GTS. Apparently they are in "huge" demand and they will guarantee my trade in value for another year. It is just another way to get you in the door.

Indeed thats why I just laughed and binned mine.

Tcoat 05-23-2017 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2914990)
Indeed thats why I just laughed and binned mine.

Can't wait until 2019 when I get one saying they extended the offer beyond the 10 years! That car is either some kids ultra high mileage rice mobile or soup cans by now.

trippinbillies40 05-23-2017 11:08 AM

Problem solved. Too many miles for how old the car is.

Tcoat 05-23-2017 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 2915011)
Problem solved. Too many miles for how old the car is.

There is a mileage requirement? So the system is weighted to benefit the dealer but presented as if to be best for the costumer?

Da Brz 05-23-2017 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 2915011)
Problem solved. Too many miles for how old the car is.

Their website still says this though:

"For vehicles exceeding the above maximum mileage limits and not disallowed by the Vehicle Exclusions or the Vehicle Condition Criteria outlined in the Program Guidelines, the GTP Value offered to the customer must be reduced by $0.20 for each mile over the maximum mileage allowance. This is the only allowed reduction of the GTP Value."

Come to about a $1,500 hit for me. But I still don't know what Subaru values my car at though.

Da Brz 05-23-2017 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2914979)
$320 just for a oil change?!

I just called to ask since I've got my 30k mile service coming up.

$330 plus tax for an oil change, tire rotation and "brake fluid flush and top engine clean."

:iono:

trippinbillies40 05-23-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2915021)
There is a mileage requirement? So the system is weighted to benefit the dealer but presented as if to be best for the costumer?

Yes there is a mileage requirement, no it is not weighted to benefit the dealer. Just like leasing has mileage caps, the GTP program is a "bet" on the depreciated value of a car, and that is much much harder to be accurate on as mileage goes way up on younger cars, so Subaru caps mileage for GTP so they can accurately quote a trade in value that is good for both parties.

Tcoat 05-23-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 2915024)
Yes there is a mileage requirement, no it is not weighted to benefit the dealer. Just like leasing has mileage caps, the GTP program is a "bet" on the depreciated value of a car, and that is much much harder to be accurate on as mileage goes way up on younger cars, so Subaru caps mileage for GTP so they can accurately quote a trade in value that is good for both parties.

Perfect. Thanks.

trippinbillies40 05-23-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2915022)
Their website still says this though:

"For vehicles exceeding the above maximum mileage limits and not disallowed by the Vehicle Exclusions or the Vehicle Condition Criteria outlined in the Program Guidelines, the GTP Value offered to the customer must be reduced by $0.20 for each mile over the maximum mileage allowance. This is the only allowed reduction of the GTP Value."

Come to about a $1,500 hit for me. But I still don't know what Subaru values my car at though.

Give your retailer a shout and they'll quote you.

2013dgmbrzdood 05-23-2017 12:01 PM

Well since my mileage had almost 30k more allowed I guess that means I get 30k x .20 added to my vehicle value.

I actually got really pist at subaru because in one month their trade-in value dropped by 4k. Total bs.

trippinbillies40 05-23-2017 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2013dgmbrzdood (Post 2915038)
Well since my mileage had almost 30k more allowed I guess that means I get 30k x .20 added to my vehicle value.

I actually got really pist at subaru because in one month their trade-in value dropped by 4k. Total bs.

Just out of curiosity, what does fair market price have to do with Subaru? If you want the most money for your car, sell privately. More work, but always your best option, especially if you think black book values are wrong.

Da Brz 05-23-2017 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 2915042)
Just out of curiosity, what does fair market price have to do with Subaru? If you want the most money for your car, sell privately. More work, but always your best option, especially if you think black book values are wrong.

That's hard to do if you still owe money though.

trippinbillies40 05-23-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2915049)
That's hard to do if you still owe money though.

Not necessarily true, but also, one can't hold a manufacturer responsible for quoting fair market value from black book.

Capt Spaulding 05-23-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2915023)
I just called to ask since I've got my 30k mile service coming up.

$330 plus tax for an oil change, tire rotation and "brake fluid flush and top engine clean."

:iono:

Let us know what a "top engine clean" is. I probably really need one of those whatever TF it is.

Tcoat 05-23-2017 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 2915351)
Let us know what a "top engine clean" is. I probably really need one of those whatever TF it is.

LOL You made me look it up!
Sounds like they pour some shit in your gas or something. Even though the manual clearly says "don't pour shit or something in your gas".

"Using a top engine cleaner can help:
Reduce stalling, hesitation, and pinging.
Make your engine idle smoother.
Improve your exhaust emissions and gas mileage.
Clean carbon deposits from inside the engine (decarbonize).
Clean the intake valves and pistons.
Clean the throttle body (a little)."

Tcoat 05-23-2017 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Brz (Post 2915023)
I just called to ask since I've got my 30k mile service coming up.

$330 plus tax for an oil change, tire rotation and "brake fluid flush and top engine clean."

:iono:

They are ripping you off!

This is what the Subaru 30K service is supposed to include for around $300:

Major Subaru Recommended Service*

Perform at 30,000 Miles, 60,000 Miles, 90,000 Miles, etc

Replace engine oil, filter and drain plug washer
Inspect and adjust all drive belts to factory specifications
Inspect and ensure cooling fan is operating within factory specifications
Replace transmission fluid with Subaru High Performance Fluid
Check to ensure air conditioning and heating systems are operating within factory specifications
Rotate tires, inspect tread wear and check and adjust tire pressure as needed
Perform brake system inspection; pads and/or drums, lines, hoses and fluid
Inspect suspension system and steering components to ensure factory specifications
Service battery, clean terminals, install anti-corrosion pads and check battery condition
Inspect wiper blades and linkage operation
Lubricate all door, trunk and hood latches and hinges if needed
Inspect exhaust system and heat shields
Replace front and rear differential fluid
Inspect radiator and cooling system
Adjust emergency brake to within factory specifications if needed
Replace air filter element
Inspect steering operation, tie rod ends and steering rack guides per factory specifications
Inspect all engine and transmission mounts
Inspect and adjust all fluid levels as needed
Check all interior and exterior lighting operation
Replace brake fluid
Install premium fuel additive (dealer recommended)
Factory trained technician to conduct road test

gravitylover 05-24-2017 11:37 AM

That's not too terrible. Full fluid and filter changes all the way around and full visual inspection too. Sure you can do it in under 2 hours (3 including getting the parts and supplies) yourself if you have the knowledge, the place to do it and the tools but at $300 I'd question if it's worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2915491)
They are ripping you off!

This is what the Subaru 30K service is supposed to include for around $300:

Major Subaru Recommended Service*

Perform at 30,000 Miles, 60,000 Miles, 90,000 Miles, etc

Replace engine oil, filter and drain plug washer
Inspect and adjust all drive belts to factory specifications
Inspect and ensure cooling fan is operating within factory specifications
Replace transmission fluid with Subaru High Performance Fluid
Check to ensure air conditioning and heating systems are operating within factory specifications
Rotate tires, inspect tread wear and check and adjust tire pressure as needed
Perform brake system inspection; pads and/or drums, lines, hoses and fluid
Inspect suspension system and steering components to ensure factory specifications
Service battery, clean terminals, install anti-corrosion pads and check battery condition
Inspect wiper blades and linkage operation
Lubricate all door, trunk and hood latches and hinges if needed
Inspect exhaust system and heat shields
Replace front and rear differential fluid
Inspect radiator and cooling system
Adjust emergency brake to within factory specifications if needed
Replace air filter element
Inspect steering operation, tie rod ends and steering rack guides per factory specifications
Inspect all engine and transmission mounts
Inspect and adjust all fluid levels as needed
Check all interior and exterior lighting operation
Replace brake fluid
Install premium fuel additive (dealer recommended)
Factory trained technician to conduct road test


2013dgmbrzdood 05-24-2017 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40 (Post 2915042)
Just out of curiosity, what does fair market price have to do with Subaru? If you want the most money for your car, sell privately. More work, but always your best option, especially if you think black book values are wrong.

Don't know what you are talking about. I'm referring to subarus guaranteed trade in (thread topic) and how its crap they quoted me a price with up to 49k miles and I had under 20, 30 days later when I'm looking the trade in has lost 4k dollars. Total bs. Anyways i've used the program before and got 2400 more than they quoted originally. I'll sell it privately if I need to but if subaru wanted to sell me a new car they wouldn't have done this and would go back to a more reasonable quote.

qqzj 06-01-2017 01:38 PM

What car is this for and do you drive an automatic? I do not remember MTF and diff. fluid need to be replaced at 30k miles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2915491)
They are ripping you off!

This is what the Subaru 30K service is supposed to include for around $300:

Major Subaru Recommended Service*

Perform at 30,000 Miles, 60,000 Miles, 90,000 Miles, etc

Replace engine oil, filter and drain plug washer
Inspect and adjust all drive belts to factory specifications
Inspect and ensure cooling fan is operating within factory specifications
Replace transmission fluid with Subaru High Performance Fluid
Check to ensure air conditioning and heating systems are operating within factory specifications
Rotate tires, inspect tread wear and check and adjust tire pressure as needed
Perform brake system inspection; pads and/or drums, lines, hoses and fluid
Inspect suspension system and steering components to ensure factory specifications
Service battery, clean terminals, install anti-corrosion pads and check battery condition
Inspect wiper blades and linkage operation
Lubricate all door, trunk and hood latches and hinges if needed
Inspect exhaust system and heat shields
Replace front and rear differential fluid
Inspect radiator and cooling system
Adjust emergency brake to within factory specifications if needed
Replace air filter element
Inspect steering operation, tie rod ends and steering rack guides per factory specifications
Inspect all engine and transmission mounts
Inspect and adjust all fluid levels as needed
Check all interior and exterior lighting operation
Replace brake fluid
Install premium fuel additive (dealer recommended)
Factory trained technician to conduct road test


computeruser 06-01-2017 10:05 PM

I think I paid about $190 for oil, trans, and diff fluid changed at the dealer at 10k miles. For comparison to the price the previous poster quoted.


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