Decided On FR-S... but...
 

Hey everyone! I was asking some questions about the FR-S and BRZ to try and decide which I wanted...

Well, I'm going to try and make a long story short and ask for a last bit of advice...

I had a 2007 Hummer H2 that was stolen and I did well with insurance. I invested that money into some real estate I was working on with my dad. I'm a music producer and I have some pending placements that could take about 6 months to come through. They are big $ placements.

To be honest, I've had my heart set on a GT-R for awhile but I don't want to pull the trigger on one until these placements come through and I know financially what is happening...

I really like the FR-S and because I don't have any wheels I feel like it'll be a great car that I can drive while I wait for things to unfold...

If I 2 year finance an FR-S, what are my options in a year if I'm free and clear to buy a GT-R and I'm still financing the FR-S?

I've never done this before so I just want to know my options...

be patient

Put enough down on the FR-S so that you can sell it for more than you owe after 2 yrs worth of payments. Then you can either sell it (best option) or trade it when you are ready for GT-R purchase.

If you can get an excellent rate the interest you end up paying (and taking the hit on depreciation) may be worth it to have a vehicle 2yrs + plus any positive impact the auto loan will have on your credit history. That is up to you to decide based on your situation.

Buy MT white, asphalt or black and then after 2 years sell it to me!

(Then i import it to here and rebadge it. Then i drive like i stole it)

:bow:

still head for a gt-r i love em it would be my first choice, But i dont have $90000 just sitting around

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That's one good way to get rid of a Hummer!

I'd finance it for a 36-48 month term, overpay so you have some equity in it when it comes time to trade in, or pay it off in 2 years and sell it privately to make more $$ than you could if you traded it in. Have you driven a GT-R? I've heard more than one person complaining about the GT-R being too much of a robot to have any fun in. Someone on here even sold one for a Toyota 86, in Hong Kong I think? Another guy I was talking to is considering getting rid of his for a Cadillac CTS-V. In any case, I hope you get the FR-S because I'm sure you'll love it!

If you are talking about waiting 6-12 months, get a used car that has good resale value (Honda, Toyota, Mazda, etc) then turn around and sell it for basically what you paid, and get either the GT-R or FR-S/BRZ if things don't work out as well as you planned.

Buying a new car and then selling it a year or less later is never a good idea. You lose thousands the minute you drive the car off the lot.

Would love to have these #firstworldproblems :]

I loved that truck. I worked my ass off to get it and customize it the way I did. You're comment isn't funny.

Sensitive.

If it's only 6 months I'd buy a used car that's already taken most of the major depreciation. Something popular/economical that will retains its value and be in demand so if you want to sell it in 6 months you can easliy. Then decide on the FRS or GTR depending on the situation you are in. my 2c.

I think this is rather silly considering he owned an H2 and is considering a GT-R. A worst-case scenario still probably doesn't place FR-S depreciation remotely close to those vehicles.

He may have been doing so but when I read that I figured he was assuming they were tough to sell and not necessarily bashing your car.

I could easily be wrong.

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What is silly about buying a gently used car that has good resale value so he can wait 6-12 months to determine what his budget is?

Sorry, but buying almost any car brand new and then selling it in 6-12 months results in depreciation. You honestly think a 6-12 month used FR-S that you paid MSRP for won't be worth thousands less used?

i think he's just being harmlessly silly. dont take too much offense from it. He gave you helpful comments afterwards. also I got a good chuckle when i saw the image. lighten up a bit :bonk:

Sorry man, I know getting a car stolen isn't a laughing matter. However from a financial standpoint, H2's aren't exactly desirable these days. Had you decided to trade it in you would've gotten murdered, so the insurance was a decent way out.

Buy a FR-S now, then trade it in on the next generation GT-R which is coming out in 2015, or 16....You will want that GT-R, it will be lighter and even faster!

That is 3 years from now, so you will have some equity in the FR-S, so you can easily trade or sell it for the 2016 GT-R!

The problem with the GT-R is it only cost $90K to purchase but repairs like a $300K car.

Gtr = tiptronic automanual
Fr-s = manual trans




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I figure someone with H2 and GT-R on their vehicle list might be into conspicuous consumption, but maybe they secretly want a cheap used Honda or Toyota.

A new FR-S will probably depreciate a few more thousand than a used economy car, but some people will consider that a reasonable cost. It's not the sort of change in net worth that would influence a rational decision on purchasing a GT-R.

The primary problem is that after getting into an involving, and hands-on sports car such as the FR-S... You may not thoroughly enjoy your new video game afterwards... :popcorn:




JUST KIDDING! I lust after the GT-R, and it's an incredible car. :D

Good luck with your decision.

Well, maybe I won't have this problem... I went to a Toyota dealer yesterday and test drove a raven auto and I LOVED it. He asked what I wanted... I told him a white manual trans and he said that they are not making any more manuals until next year?!?!?!?! Is this possible?

I mean, it's a track car... it's a drift car... and they're not making any more manuals?!

If this is the case, I can't buy an FR-S.

I was rattled because after driving it, I really wanted it... I figured "what the hell?" I'll buy the FR-S and when it comes time to buy the GT-R, I'll deal with it then.

I need wheels anyway, and this car is just too fun to drive to go with anything else!

Buy the FR-S now because it would be silly to use the GT-R as a DD.

unless you got money to blow like that of course

I've never owned a paddle shifter before... I've called everyone around here... No one has white in manual and the general consensus is they're not going to get orders for a LONG time... I found a white automatic.

Like I said, I've never driven paddles. Can anyone fill me in on what their deal is? Is it like driving a manual? I know the GT-R has paddles? Same idea?

bump :)

It definitely takes some getting used to. You can cause the car to shift when you want it to without moving your hands off the wheel and that's pretty convenient. But its a little hard to remember to do it, and I am betting that most people rarely use the paddle shifters. Also most implementations have the paddles mounted on the steering column in a fixed position either side of the wheel. That can make it awkward if you need to shift while you are turning.

Hmmm... I hear you. Well, here is the thing... I decided I wanted the black fr-s with the upgraded stereo and there is one sitting at my local dealership in auto/paddle shifters...

Basically, I wanted manual but it may have been for the wrong reasons. I would like to get into track days for fun. It'll be my daily driver right now... Maybe the option to shift or go into automatic is good. I understand they are different systems... but cars like the GT-R have these paddles... maybe it's not so bad? I'm not worried about being .1 second faster.

I know it's all on me... but a little push into the direction of why paddles are a good thing and why a manual isn't the end all be all would help me decide this...

ps. are there any limitations when getting paddles... can it still be turbo'd or superchargerd, etc???

The automatic on this car is:
- Convenient (can switch gears without driver input)
- Geared for better fuel economy than the manual
- Likely to shift quicker than the average manual driver
- Able to also change gears from the console shifter

The flip side is that some car people on the internet:
- Consider using a clutch "fun"
- Require a manual for driving between cones in parking lots
- Like to rev the engine and drop the clutch
- Think rowing 6 gears is better than 4 or 5

I'm not sure, but there may be threads on full bore civic treatments at:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

While I'm not "most people" just one, I use mine all the time. In fact, I've never once used the shift lever in manual mode, always using the paddles. I just like not having to take my hands off the wheel. Also, I tend to use the paddles a lot even when running in full-auto for downshifting.

For me, the hardest parts of learning to use them was:

Remembering which paddle was which. It took a few hours of driving before it became instinctive and I often hit the wrong one, typically downshifting when I meant to upshift.

Remembering to downshift through the gears as I slowed down when in manual mode. I guess I was a lazy MT driver, but normally when slowing, I did not shift down through all the gears but would tend to use the clutch and rarely downshifted say from third to second. I was more likely to skip second, and coast down to speed before shifting to first. In the 6AT it will eventually downshift for you, but only at the point where the car would have stalled.

Remembering not to hit the clutch pedal! I still on occasion find my left leg instinctively pressing the dead "clutch" pedal when changing gears.

I hear this a lot but dont believe it. I believe the maintenance rivals Porsche 911's especially the turbo model.

Automobile Mag racked up $9K in dealer service in the 2 years/18K miles they drove on their long-term test GT-R (09 model).

I'm not saying it's a bad car, and if I had 100K to spend on a car it would be hard not to buy one, but it's not going to be like maintaining a 370Z...

I have more fun driving with the paddles in the SMG M3 vs the Manual M3. Maybe it is because it feels like you can concentrate more on enjoying the car.

The paddles on this car will not improve your speed at a track, whereas the paddles on the GTR do. Those paddles are attached to different types of transmissions.

Just making sure you're aware of the difference before comparing the two too closely.

Also, never spend based on windfalls you think you will receive in the future. Maybe a used car would be a good idea? Unfortunately for you, you've already fallen in love with the FRS so no amount of my pleading from the sidelines will change your mind now. :) Good luck!

I was thinking of the exact same logic when I first started reading this particular thread... But I didn't want to try to advise the OP, since I'm not anyone to make the decision... Heck, I'll even be the first to admit that the lack of patience still gets the best of me at times, as well.