O.F.T or ecutek?
 

Hey guys
I know people asked this question like a million time but
I'm new here so please be nice :)
I got a Subaru BRZ with tomii header (eul)
And greedy intake
I relly want to know what the difference between ecutek and O.f.t?.
And witch tuners you guys recommend for ecutek and why?
A friend told me that delicious tuner is the best but I wanna know why?
Please help me to figure it out but don't tell me only names of tuners
Tell me the name and what this tuning doing to the car
Thank you very much guys.

maybe start here

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106068

lot of info on oft in coloured links below andtuning info see also links below

If your buddy says delicious tuning is the best, maybe he can explain why he thinks that.

oft is rom flasher
ecutek is flasher with same more options .as racerom

both work with boost . e85 . lc/ffs
both use stock ecu
both lock the ecu


in my view . both same

ecutek =headache

Ecutek is used usually by professional tuner shops and the tune is usually locked. This means that you won't be able to see the changes in the car's ROM. This is for a reason. They wouldn't like to see their changes be available for free on the internet.
OFT is based on an open source community and the changes are not locked. It comes bundled with some predefined ROMs made by a single tuner, but you can also use the hardware to upload other open source tunes.

In both cases, you should know that noone has an access to the actual source code. Everything is found by a process called reverse engineering. They know most of the ROM's functionality and what the different tables are doing, but the knowledge will never be a 100%.

OFT is also on sellable if you flash back your stock tune, and you will get good money fore it second hand

Ecutek locks ecu

oft does not lock ecu, but the oft does get martied to your car vin, it can be unmarried by flashing back stock tune then you can sell oft if you wanted to.

ecutek you can only onsell cable kit the licience and tunes not on sellable.

oft also functions as a guage display and alarms and alerts see OFT TIPS link below.

As above Ecutek has more high features.

you realy need to research what you want and make your own decision

i have OFT, a Tactrix and Ecutek flash systems, they all work reliably and have their good and bad points.

As a side note, I asked an engine tuner in Japan if they are doing ECU tuning. Although, they said it'll give better results they mentioned that it is not so common and most of their customers don't do it.

OFT is all done by yourself. You get free premade tunes, customize them, there's 2 step, flat foot shift, and so on.
EcuTek is online or in shop. Some dude makes a tune for you, it's custom, and you have to pay for new tunes.
I went OFT, i want full control over my car. Some go EcuTek, they want proffessional, custom tunes. You decide, they both have ups and downs.

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My experience with oft has been very positive. E85 tune gave me 20+ horses for 500 bucks. Can't complain.

imo OFT for NA and ecutek for FI

Makes sense. If I lived near moto east or drift office id do ecutek.

Ecutek is definitely worth the money if you can pay for a ton of dyno time.

I second this. With FI, you want a pro to tune your car.

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This thread has been remarkably civil. Let's keep it going.

If you plan on staying N/A then I would 100% recommend the OFT without hesitation for the OTS maps.

If you at anypoint plan on going FI, i would make the investment in ECUTek now rather than later.

This is coming from someone whos been tuned on both OFT and ECUTek for both N/A and Turbo applications.

I initially would agree with you, but being NA, for now, I went with ECUTek and had MotoEast do a tune for me remotely. However, my end goal is going S/C so I figured while I was "saving" I would invest a bit now and chip away at the cost of the S/C.

At the end of the day, you can get a solid tune around 400-500 bucks, at that point and cost its worth it due to FI requirements and well you don't want to blow up with that much cash into the car if you can help it.

IMHO if you are planning on seriously going to FI (10k+ in $$$) then start off right and go with ECUTek, if you don't see putting that much cash into the car, then stick with OFT.

Before my inbox explodes - 10k comes in with JRSC/Big pully/Injectors/Fuel pump, clutch, install + tune(s). I added the + because you WILL break shit or need to increase your car maintenance Oil/spark plugs/clutch/tires etc. when sooner with FI.

Everyone says to go ECUTek if you plan on going FI at some point so I'm curious if there is any reasons other than that you'll already have a ECUTek cable then. If I go with OFT for while I'm NA and then go with a turbo kit down the line is there any drawbacks to switching to ECUTek?

None at all, it's just flashing an ECU.

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OFT and ecutek are devices/systems to flash a tune. Ecutek has some ectra features due to the ecutek guys writing extra program code (racerom)

however the OFT guys now have

overboost cut
Flex fuel
launch
FFS
and SD tuning available.

Their no reason you could not use OFT for tuning on the FI kits supported by OFT.

OFT main support is for the SBD turbo kit. so if thats the kit you want then no problem.

They also support some SC kits vortech and a couple of others.

Ask the oft guys if their is support for your proposed kit, if so then oft is no problem.

If it a different kit not supported then your likely better going ecutek due to the larger number of supported kits and larger avaiability of ecutek tuners.

As the oft guys are probably the only guys who will tune forced induction with oft.

If your using oft for NA then your other option is to flash back to stock to unmarry oft, then you can sell your oft and they sell very well for little loss. This is one of the big advantages of oft the resale value. so even if you switch out of oft you will loose little. Ecutek the only thing you can onsell is cable kit , the tunes and liciences are not transferable.


have a read here got a bit of info on pricing and features etc http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106068

Openflash tunes can be completely reset to stock, so money aside there are no drawbacks to switching to Ecutek later on.

In the past, people have recommended Ecutek because Openflash hasn't supported many FI kits. Ecutek, in comparison, you can go to any competent tuner and get a tune for whatever kit you have. Openflash supports a larger variety of blowers these days, but still not all of them.

Not at all other than money and convenience when its time to switch.

Unless something new has happened in the past few months, its not really overboost cut...

It's a check engine light that comes on and thats it.

ztan the guy that did flex also enabled MAP (pressure based overboot cut, ie boost over a limit as measured by MAP, will completly cut fuel ie no power.

to access the overboost setting you need a special definition that references the code change in rom

this is in addition to the timing and maf(load) based limiting

it was done back in 2015

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2351475

This is something that can be done by the end user though, this is not something to the best of my knowledge Shiv has enabled on his own maps.

Up until my move to ECUtek the only "overboost" protection I h ad from the OFT was a check engine light if i creeped past 12 PSI

Yes for sure unless you have knowledge its not possible to add that functionality. But like Ecutek most people don't do their own FI tunes.


so if you got the OFT boosted tune from shiv pretty sure all the oft 350 or sbd 10psi plus tune have it as well as flex fuel) it will have overboost cut installed. The early lower boost tunes didn't have it.


just like if you got Tune from ecutek tuner.




Tuners love ecutek cause they can lock tunes and also because features like this are added by ecutek, and the end user/tuner doesn't have to fiddle with code. They just tune and flash.


The good thing about OFT or Tactrix and opensource stuff is the end user can see whats going on in the tune and could possibly make minor adjustments or tweaks themselves. I would also say the competition keeps prices down.


If the ecutek guys had a monopoly I doubt you would be getting ecutek tunes as cheap as they currently are on this platform.


completion and choice is always a good thing to have :-)

Get a OFT. See how you like it. For many, it's plenty. Ive been happy with mine for over a year.

If you do "grow out of it", sell it for like 60 bucks less than you paid (going rate for used ones is easily 400+), and go ecutek.

I was happy with OFT while I was NA. Then I completely spaced and forgot to unmarry my tablet when I switched over to Ecutek for FI, making it useless. I contacted Shiv, and he said the best he could do would be to sell me another one at a discounted price if I sent mine back to him. The $500 paperweight of an OFT that I have sitting at home now definitely makes me regret bothering with it at all.

Well, thats was your fault

Unfortunatly the oft guys just buy them from Alientech and that's the way the devices work.


you can still unmarry it, you would just need a helpful ecutek tuner.


Tuner flashes you back to stock ecutek tune, this unlocks ecu
Flash back your stock tune with oft, oft now unmarried
Get ecutek tuner to renew licience and flash back your ecutek tune.


If you lived near me id sort it for you :-), take 15 minutes.

Wow, thanks for your valuable perspective.

Hm. That's really good to know. I didn't know the licenses could be renewed. I'll need to look into that. I wish you weren't literally across the world from me haha.