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Hey guys I'm a technician at a Toyota dealership. I'm really interested in this FR-S but don't know much about these aftermarket turbo kits. This guy traded this thing in after doing a bunch of work to it because his wife got pregnant. It only has 11k miles. I'm wondering if any of you could identify this turbo kit or maybe a good way to tell if this thing was tuned and reliable or not. Thanks

https://www.fredandersontoyota.com/u...dceaad4f6a.htm

Hello, Lolephant and welcome to the forum.......:)

I can't "see" a turbo on that machine ...........:iono:

The price looks a bit high.

Ask "Jane" on their web site about the turbo ......;)


humfrz

if you scroll through the photos you will see it

Buy stock.

yeah i know stock is the best i work on cars for a living haha. just seemed like a really good deal just kinda sketchy i guess because i have no idea what the guy did. i know some of these turbo kits are like $6,000. only has 11k miles on it so not like he had too much time to beat the crap out of it. oh well just seemed like a good deal but rolling the dice none the less.

just was wondering if you guys would recognize the turbo package and be like " OH MY GOD HE HAS soandsoandso GET IT!!! "

Can't help with the make but...

Wrap it up nice so it doesn't heat soak
https://pictures.dealer.com/t/toyota...06a1b548bx.jpg

Suck in ALL the hot air
https://pictures.dealer.com/t/toyota...22376c37dx.jpg

It does not appear to be one of the bigger name ones but I am far from an expert on the subject. Do you know what tuning method was used? Any other mods?

You are from dealership, I dont trust you. !!@#$@^

Looks like some of the piping may be ptuning's kit. At least he has a vent gauge installed to monitor things...

Oh ...... daaaaa.......scroll down ...... got it.....:D

I can't help you.

I know nothing about turbos ........ however, after reading about turbo'd FR-Ss on this forum ....... I'd never buy a used FR-S that had a turbocharger.


humfrz

Wow that center console looks like it spent a few days in the desert.

Ya I was thinking the same thing. If it came into the dealer like that I wouldn't touch it. If from sitting on the lot that is different.

Not sure what kit that is, but the red piping looks like a 'ptuning' kit. That said, its hard to tell what tuning software was used just by looking at it. If its open sourced (which I doubt) you could get someone to retune it for you. If its a locked tune (my guess) its not quite so simple.

Walk away, anyone that puts a fram filter like that, is missing a few screws in the head.
Something off

Yep. That alone does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the whole thing.

Thanks guys for the replies. The oreilleys wick filter is pretty sketchy haha. Going to find a nice stick one. I guess since the 86 is coming out all the fr-s will be pretty cheap. Do you guys think the parts will be cross compatible between the two models? My budget is around 16-18k. Get a fr-s or wait?

The vast majority of the car is exactly the same. There are some minor changes to such things as the intake and exhaust that complicates but does not eliminate crossing parts.
The 86 coming out has not had any appreciable impact on the price of the older models. These are a middle to upper level deprecation vehicle anyway so the small facelift that was done really didn't change anything.
Prices vary significantly from region to region so your budget may or may not be good for your area. Take a look through Auto Trader or such for your area and see what they are asking for the cars at different levels of mileage, condition, etc. Keep in mind those are the prices that they are asking not necessary getting so you may be able to knock some down a bit. If you find they are high in your area and are prepared to travel a bit you can widen your search a bit. Deals are out there you just need to do some leg work.

Thanks a lot for all the advice. Just talked to the sales guy and someone
Bought it. Perhaps it's for the best. Now I'm on the hunt for a white one with a manual transmission! Stock! Lol.

You should easily be able to find an early model FR-S or BRZ for this much.
16k-18k is essentially trade in value dealers are giving for low mileage 15/16 year models.

LOL just got back from a test drive of the turbo FR-S. Let me begin I have never driven a fast car before and this thing was borderline TERRIFYING. Definitely had a stage 2 clutch. Very hard to learn the sweet spot on gear engagement. VERY loud and VERY fast. This thing hauled ass. I pulled up to the dealership and saw a stream of smoke coming from the hood. Popped the hood and it was coming from the turbo!

Called my friend and he said the turbo is shot and needs to be rebuilt / replaced. At that point I said screw this and glad I didn't buy it!

http://tlcmotors.com/2013-Scion-FRS/...7/Details.aspx

Check out this one! I'm definitely pretty serious about getting this. The only thing that scares me is the Perrin sticker and hoping he didn't do too much aftermarket stuff to the car. Hopefully just an exhaust! What do you guys think?

Sorry guys looks like link is broken try this one!

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=150584145

I would say that is a much safer bet that that slapdash turbo setup looked like.

Could it be SBD?

Other than wheels/tires, battery and that Perrin sticker which you say indicates the Perrin exhaust, it looks unmolested from stock.

The white one looks to have a single-tip exhaust so not Perrin which is dual-tip. See Perrin exhaust below.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8ZTYGxg7yII/maxresdefault.jpg

Also PTuning's turbo is bottom-mounted, not front-mounted. See PTuning turbo below.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1391211252

Man this forum is awesome. Thanks guys for replying to my thread. Hopefully the car dealer will be open tomorrow. Going to look at the white one and hopefully it's mostly stock. Maybe the stickers are just for show or perhaps he was in some sort of car club. I'm not too worried about mods as long as they aren't too crazy. I am a Toyota technician after all! Although this is a Subaru engine haha. Not looking forward to doing a tune up. Pretty sure I gotta jack the engine up and plugs gotta be changed every 60k.

There are a couple of threads on how to do the plugs without having to jack up he engine. A few extensions and some careful hand placement and all is good.

White one looks good.

But I'd wanna be paying 14-15k for that year and mileage car.

Maybe I'm all wet, yet base this on a 2013 for sale somewhat near me, some 10 months ago, similar mileage. Private party sale, they were asking $14,500. I'd have bought it but hated it's color.

In California you may be looking at that price. This is where things get different by region. In SC that is actually a very good deal for that car. He doesn't have a hope in hell of getting a $14K car that isn't junk in his region.

You could test drive it lol you work there right? Lol and maybe even ask this person for maintenance record and look into seeing where he got this turbo install and from what source of tuning. And uh btw the only turbo kit I currently know of is the works stage 2 carb kit and the higher end turbo/super chargers. Those seem to be expensive for a good reason but usually require more engine upgrade itself to hold excessive power to match the force induction. Look more into these before diving.. it a risk.. wanna try 🤔🤔🤔??

that poor sucker! now he will probably buy a minivan

must have forgot to use protection the same way he forgot to install a heat shield for that intake filter

Hey, maybe he's got a turbo in his pants also ........ :cheers:

A heat shield wouldn't do any good ...... it's sucking in hot air all around it ....:D


humfrz

if he had a turbo in his pants then he wouldn't need to compensate by putting a turbo in his car

Good point ...... :thumbsup:


humfrz

Okay, gotta ask- how does this dealership advertise "This quality vehicle qualifies for our " Fred Anderson Family Plan" which includes our LIFE TIME POWERTRAIN GUARANTEE*LIFE TIME OIL CHANGES*LIFE TIME CAR WASHES*SERVICE LOANERS and MUCH MORE!"

...when their own mechanics don't know anything about what they're warranting? Or did I miss something here? That must be a hell of a block of fine print going with that guarantee. But zero mention of the turbo kit in the description anywhere.

Sketchy as all hell.