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WWFT86 11-29-2016 10:20 AM

Got these indicators... any ideas why?
 
So I got the following on my MY17. The only change I made leading up to this is rust proofing 2-3 days before these indicators showed up.

I've got an appointment booked at the dealer but was wondering if anyone's ran into this before or know what may have caused it...

http://wildia.net/BRZ/brz_indicators.jpg

Thanks

go_a_way1 11-29-2016 10:27 AM

Could be anything

Tcoat 11-29-2016 11:17 AM

Undercoating fouled your ABS sensors. Not uncommon really.

shiumai 11-29-2016 11:19 AM

Seatbelt isn't buckled.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

FX86 11-29-2016 11:21 AM

maybe you nicked one of the speed sensors

Tcoat 11-29-2016 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiumai (Post 2805467)
Seatbelt isn't buckled.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Going into a skid with no brakes while not buckled in while it is foggy out? The story is a bit scary really!

FX86 11-29-2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2805472)
Going into a skid with no brakes while not buckled in while it is foggy out? The story is a bit scary really!

maybe he is doing a burnout...elevenses

8RZ 11-29-2016 11:26 AM

Time to work on your abs, more crunches!

Tcoat 11-29-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFT86 (Post 2805435)
So I got the following on my MY17. The only change I made leading up to this is rust proofing 2-3 days before these indicators showed up.

I've got an appointment booked at the dealer but was wondering if anyone's ran into this before or know what may have caused it...



Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2805471)
maybe you nicked one of the speed sensors

They may have smacked one but my guess remains that the sprayed crap on at least one.

WWFT86 11-29-2016 11:52 AM

This photo was done while parked and seat belt unbuckled... ☺

Tcoat 11-29-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFT86 (Post 2805488)
This photo was done while parked and seat belt unbuckled... ☺

O my story was much more exciting.

Lynxis 11-29-2016 12:51 PM

Totalled.























What? Someone had to do it.

WWFT86 11-29-2016 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2805499)
O my story was much more exciting.

Haha except your story aren't believable with 0 km/h and 600 rpm showing in the photo.... 😆

WWFT86 11-29-2016 06:11 PM

Appreciate all the i put thou... As my luck would have it... the car won't even start now and no brake light when brake pedal depressed... good thing this thing came with roadside assistance. ..

Tcoat 11-29-2016 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFT86 (Post 2805769)
Appreciate all the i put thou... As my luck would have it... the car won't even start now and no brake light when brake pedal depressed... good thing this thing came with roadside assistance. ..

Well something else is up then since sensors would not kill your battery.

WWFT86 11-29-2016 09:31 PM

Battery was not dead at all. Car could get to accessories mode but wouldn't start / crank over.

Ultramaroon 11-29-2016 10:05 PM

Needs an obd2 reader and/or techstream to pull codes & run some diagnostics.

Tcoat 11-29-2016 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFT86 (Post 2805885)
Battery was not dead at all. Car could get to accessories mode but wouldn't start / crank over.

That is a low battery. That is why batteries are rated by cranking amps not accessory amps.

WWFT86 11-29-2016 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2805905)
That is a low battery. That is why batteries are rated by cranking amps not accessory amps.

That crossed my mind as well but it wasn'tthe battery as the CAA guy came with a portable battery jumper unit and it still wouldn't crank over. It's something telling the ignition not to start...

CAA guy said the underbody spray probably got to the sensor like you first suggested...

Tcoat 11-29-2016 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFT86 (Post 2805915)
That crossed my mind as well but it wasn'tthe battery as the CAA guy came with a portable battery jumper unit and it still wouldn't crank over. It's something telling the ignition not to start...

CAA guy said the underbody spray probably got to the sensor like you first suggested...

Still shouldn't prevent the car from starting. Obviously something else is up. Presume you were getting to the dealer.

WWFT86 11-29-2016 10:22 PM

Yup took two CAA trucks to get it out of multi-story garage and then a flatbed to get it over to dealer. By that time service dept. closed so will find out tmrw what's going on.

WWFT86 11-30-2016 09:46 PM

So the dealer told me it's nothing to do with the underbody rustproofing, but a sensor behind the break pedal.

Fully covered by warranty with no cost to me but takes them a full day to source the part.

Oh well.. guess things aren't always what them seem...

Tcoat 11-30-2016 11:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFT86 (Post 2806558)
So the dealer told me it's nothing to do with the underbody rustproofing, but a sensor behind the break pedal.

Fully covered by warranty with no cost to me but takes them a full day to source the part.

Oh well.. guess things aren't always what them seem...

The only thing I know of that is there is the brake light switch and that should not throw a brake system warning and certainly would not stop the car from starting. Unless there is another sensor I am not aware of. Anybody? Something doesn't add up.


Edit:

Thought so. No sensors.

Ultramaroon 11-30-2016 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2806594)
Anybody? Something doesn't add up.

Yeah. I smells me some bullshit.

Imrac 12-01-2016 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2806594)
The only thing I know of that is there is the brake light switch and that should not throw a brake system warning and certainly would not stop the car from starting. Unless there is another sensor I am not aware of. Anybody? Something doesn't add up.


Edit:

Thought so. No sensors.

He probably has an Automatic, Brake pedal must be pressed for the engine to start.

Also take a look at this thread:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67825

Quote:

In my case the switch was not activating the brake light when I pressed the brake lightly, so the ECU looks at master cylinder pressure and says why is there pressure and no brake light and throws a code.
Kinda smart... Look at the master cylinder pressure, see the increase in pressure, realize the brakes switch is not closed (Or open, or what ever the position should be).

Ultramaroon 12-01-2016 12:48 AM

sonofabitch!

Tcoat 12-01-2016 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imrac (Post 2806634)
He probably has an Automatic, Brake pedal must be pressed for the engine to start.

Also take a look at this thread:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67825



Kinda smart... Look at the master cylinder pressure, see the increase in pressure, realize the brakes switch is not closed (Or open, or what ever the position should be).

Thank you Sir! I was truly baffled. For some reason I had it n my head that it was a MT.

wbradley 12-01-2016 10:31 AM

Would have had the same issue on a manual if the switch behind the clutch pedal failed. duh
Brake interlock was my suspicion.

Tcoat 12-01-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 2806739)
Would have had the same issue on a manual if the switch behind the clutch pedal failed. duh
Brake interlock was my suspicion.

Ya, if I hadn't had it firmly in my head that he had a MT for some weird reason (he never once says it) I may have clued in.

WWFT86 12-03-2016 11:05 PM

Brake light switch -that's it - dealer claimed that was the cause for ABS and Slip indicator as well as car not turning over

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2806594)
The only thing I know of that is there is the brake light switch and that should not throw a brake system warning and certainly would not stop the car from starting. Unless there is another sensor I am not aware of. Anybody? Something doesn't add up.


Edit:

Thought so. No sensors.


WWFT86 12-04-2016 12:04 AM

This is right on the money. Wish I found this earlier. Yes I have an AT but always used the manual mode except when I have food or drink in one hand...

Thanks for pointing out this bulletin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imrac (Post 2806634)
He probably has an Automatic, Brake pedal must be pressed for the engine to start.

Also take a look at this thread:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67825



Kinda smart... Look at the master cylinder pressure, see the increase in pressure, realize the brakes switch is not closed (Or open, or what ever the position should be).


89_Manny 12-05-2016 01:47 AM

I will try this as well!
After I upgraded all my brakes the lights go off. Even more in traffic or when I merge


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WWFT86 12-05-2016 08:22 PM

Just the occasional bagel or coffee in hand :bonk: For pgone I'd pull over or just wait.

WWFT86 04-08-2017 04:26 PM

For the 2nd time in 4 months, this problem came back on my 2017 BRZ. Dealer said the brake light switch simply broke for unknown reason. I also hadn't touched that part of the cabin either (eg. Did not change mat, etc)

When I expressed concerns if this could happen while driving, the service person simply shrugs...

Now I feel very confident about my car... and the weather is just getting nice.. sigh..
..

WWFT86 04-08-2017 04:27 PM

Fault code = C1249


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