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Parappa 09-16-2016 01:47 PM

Attempting to install iJDMToy 4th Brake light
 
I ordered the iJDM Toy 4th brake light the other night. I noticed there is not much space between the bumper and the muffler to take the reverse light casing out.

Is it possible to take the casing out without removing the muffler?

I have watched many install videos and the car is usually on a lift with the muffler out.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Cheers!

fizzymike 09-16-2016 03:53 PM

In install videos for that lower brake light with the stock exhaust, they just try to wiggle it out despite being tight. They may lightly tug on the underside of the bumper to help take it out. This is even more of a pain witht the oem diffuser. It will come out eventually.

Vital 09-16-2016 05:47 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TzYMNrNIas"]iJDM 4th Brake Light Install on Subaru BRZ - YouTube[/ame]

You can maybe follow this installation idk if it'll help much. He bought his from iJDMToy too.

Teseo 09-16-2016 06:13 PM

Doesnt looks like "plug n play"

FX86 09-16-2016 06:14 PM

ijdmtoy is rubbish..stay away from their cheap products and shoddy customer service

fx1mark 09-16-2016 06:16 PM

I installed mine without removing the reverse light. just jacked up the rear end and worked on my back. I do have a Borla exhaust though. I may have more room to work than normal.

Parappa 09-17-2016 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fx1mark (Post 2754669)
I installed mine without removing the reverse light. just jacked up the rear end and worked on my back. I do have a Borla exhaust though. I may have more room to work than normal.

Thanks I might give that a try if i can't get my hand in there to undo the clips and bolts.

Parappa 09-17-2016 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FX86 (Post 2754667)
ijdmtoy is rubbish..stay away from their cheap products and shoddy customer service

This kit isn't really a product they made....seems like they just sourced out all the material and put it together. Same parts I would have looked for at the local hardware and auto stores.

With kids there isn't too much time so it's easier just to buy it all in one bag.

SlmedFRS 09-19-2016 07:13 PM

I've been looking at this iJDMTOY 4th Brake Light too for awhile now... Should've ordered it sooner cause now I have no time to install it :(

frsq5 09-19-2016 10:25 PM

There are two clips on the bottom of the plastic piece that surrounds 4th brake light.
Once you take those clips out you have more room to work on.
The install for the iJDMToy light wasn't simple plug in and play and requires some wiretapping if you want to enable the 4th brake light and the 'V' running light.

The work I put in to get it working wasn't too bad and it's worth the price.

B$ 12-21-2016 12:55 AM

what's the kit that is similar to this but when you break it pulses like three times?

86Boyz 01-04-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B$ (Post 2818304)
what's the kit that is similar to this but when you break it pulses like three times?

it's not really a kit. you will need to install a brake light flasher and wire it in between your brake switch and the rear fog light

https://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Flash.../dp/B00FADDOL4

https://s23.postimg.org/uqua45zuz/Capture.jpg

B$ 01-30-2017 09:48 PM

Well gee, I wish I could do that. Wiring and so forth is not my forte...

I thought there was a PLUG AND PLAY kit that did that out there...if anyone knows the name and can link me, I'd appreciate it!

Been looking for awhile for a "3rd/4th" brake light kit...besides Valenti n etc.

PandaSPUR 01-31-2017 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by B$ (Post 2842462)
Well gee, I wish I could do that. Wiring and so forth is not my forte...

I thought there was a PLUG AND PLAY kit that did that out there...if anyone knows the name and can link me, I'd appreciate it!

Been looking for awhile for a "3rd/4th" brake light kit...besides Valenti n etc.

No such kit exists sadly.

Valentis pulse when you hit the brakes, but the V doesnt stay on as a running light at night without modification and no matter what you have to tap at least the brake wire on your tail lights.

EDIT: if you're afraid of screwing up the stock wiring, check my DIY to make your own harness: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114591
If you make that harness and splice the wires from the 4th brake light to it, it becomes "plug and play" when you actually install it on the car. IMO the hardest part is just getting the light in place and fishing the wiring around the rear bumper.

I was able to do my 4th brake light without a lift or removing the exhaust, but I have the dual canister style exhaust. Not the stock type with a big muffler in the middle. With that said, if you can fit your hand between the gap with a wrench, you can do this without removing the muffler.

Firecruiser 01-31-2017 09:39 AM

It's definitely doable with just removing the clips on the bottom of the number cover so you can push it away some. If your looking for one that flashes @LED86 has a fourth brake light that pulses when you press the brakes. Still requires running a wire up through the bumper and tapping into the tail light wires. It's only 3 wires and pretty simple. And with the one they sell you don't need to modify the wiring in the light.

KnightRyderx2 01-31-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B$ (Post 2842462)
Well gee, I wish I could do that. Wiring and so forth is not my forte...

I thought there was a PLUG AND PLAY kit that did that out there...if anyone knows the name and can link me, I'd appreciate it!

Been looking for awhile for a "3rd/4th" brake light kit...besides Valenti n etc.


Its easy to get the pieces yourself and do this. I made my own kit and harness. Had an extra 1157 red led bulb from autozone laying around that I got a while ago, you can also use a 3157 bulb and socket. So ordered an 1157 dual circuit socket and a pulse module (this is optional) from SuperBrightLEDs. So at the least, its a dual circuit bulb, the socket for that bulb, wiring, and connectors.

To hook it up you run three wires from the reverse light to the taillight area; one for negative, one for the brake light, and the third for parking brake (there is a lot of instructions on the web on where to run the wire, where to hook up the wires, and what connectors to use).

The easiest is to take the reverse light assembly out and work on it. I have taken it out with the stock muffler on you just have to flex the bumper and shimmy it out of there. Drill a hole for your new socket, there is a flat circle, using a 1" hole saw. File down the tabs on the socket and test fitment, do this over and over till it fits nice and snug; you may not need to file the tabs down all the way. Then use some silicone to seal it up. Hook up the wires and test to see if your new lights work. Then secure the wire to the exciting wires with some wire ties, clean up and your done.

Cockatoo 01-31-2017 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2842550)
No such kit exists sadly.

Valentis pulse when you hit the brakes, but the V doesnt stay on as a running light at night without modification and no matter what you have to tap at least the brake wire on your tail lights.

EDIT: if you're afraid of screwing up the stock wiring, check my DIY to make your own harness: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114591
If you make that harness and splice the wires from the 4th brake light to it, it becomes "plug and play" when you actually install it on the car. IMO the hardest part is just getting the light in place and fishing the wiring around the rear bumper.

I was able to do my 4th brake light without a lift or removing the exhaust, but I have the dual canister style exhaust. Not the stock type with a big muffler in the middle. With that said, if you can fit your hand between the gap with a wrench, you can do this without removing the muffler.

There is a guy that makes a REAL PnP solution...

http://swiftmedia.bigcartel.com/prod...r-s-subaru-brz

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQuVPyEciv0"]Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ Plug and Play 4th Brake Light Kit - YouTube[/ame]

PandaSPUR 01-31-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2842771)

Cant tell if its actually plug and play based on either the video or the site lol. Its not hard to do, I'm just not aware of any kit that comes with a plug and play harness.

Cockatoo 01-31-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2842781)
Cant tell if its actually plug and play based on either the video or the site lol. Its not hard to do, I'm just not aware of any kit that comes with a plug and play harness.

It is 100% plug and play... I remember when he made his sale posts on the Facebook enthusiasts page. He uses OEM connectors and everything.

n0thing 01-31-2017 12:40 PM

I believe iJDMToy has a regular and strobe kit. I chose regular because I didn't like the strobe pattern (5 fast, 5 slow, constant).


The hole saw is in fact smaller than the supplied socket. Some people shaved material off the "square" socket. I chose to dremel the hole bigger and made slots, so the socket can be inserted and twist-locked just like a regular bulb socket. It fits very tight with the supplied o-ring and requires no gasket maker at all.


My BRZ has power trunk, so I ran the 4th brake light wiring through the same grommet, and applied some gasket maker to ensure good seal.


Last tip I have is for splicing the wires into the taillight harness - not necessary. I was starting to unwrap the stock electrical tape to make room for the supplied splice connectors, when I realized there's enough room to simply insert the wire into the OEM connector from the rear. IIRC, red to red, black to black, blue to green. Hot glued them so they stay in place, followed by electric tape.

KayC 01-31-2017 03:37 PM

True PnP kit with Harnesses from nsidiusindustries

http://www.nsidiusindustries.com/pro...t-wire-harness

PandaSPUR 01-31-2017 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayC (Post 2843040)
True PnP kit with Harnesses from nsidiusindustries

http://www.nsidiusindustries.com/pro...t-wire-harness

Or just make your own harness for $20 and 1 hour of your time :P

B$ 01-31-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockatoo (Post 2842771)

Afraid of the lack of instructions and non-responses the YT video has. But pretty much what I am looking for. Did you purchase this and install?

I want that light to be lit when my headlights are on, and do the pulsing when I hit the breaks...

B$ 01-31-2017 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayC (Post 2843040)
True PnP kit with Harnesses from nsidiusindustries

http://www.nsidiusindustries.com/pro...t-wire-harness

Will look into this. thank you

NSIDIUS_Industries 02-10-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayC (Post 2843040)
True PnP kit with Harnesses from nsidiusindustries

http://www.nsidiusindustries.com/pro...t-wire-harness

Yes, our kits are plug and play and will require no splicing into factory wires. You will simply have to modify where the bulb will go on your rear reflector with a step drill. Full instructions are available on our website for those who wanna look into what it takes to do this mod. Message me if you have any questions.

SkyeHack 05-20-2018 10:31 PM

I just connected my 4th brake light. My 4th brake light turns on when I turn my car on. However, when I hit the brakes the 4th brake light completely turns off until I let go of the brake. Can someone let me know what I messed up on please?


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