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LenA 08-11-2016 10:40 PM

CSG Brembo Brakes
 
I saw a 326mm front Brembo kit on CSG site. Do these brakes require spacer for stock wheels and are they lighter than stock brakes. They look like they use 1 piece rotors and 4 piston calipers

Thanks

Len

churchx 08-12-2016 02:28 AM

Most sites also list contact page. It's worth using emails listed there to get info about some specific products. Brembo-s (unless some STI retrofits which i don't advise doing) are not the most common (probably due price) on toyobaru. Forum crowd might have less info on uncommon products then shop selling it.

LenA 08-12-2016 02:38 AM

Yeah, probably a better idea. I'll post what I find out in case anyone else is interested

Len

churchx 08-12-2016 03:51 AM

Oh, ignore my comment. It seems that i was in impression you were asking of previous brembo kits offered by CSG, that costed $7.5-8.5K. I see they have added both front and rear brembo kits "Brembo GT System CSG-Spec" costing 1/4th of price of those and marked as *NEW*. At that price level they might get wider user base.
They list kit product numbers though, so you can try searching on those on eg. brembo site, to see if they have some BBK fitment templates to print out and check on your wheels.

JDKane527 08-12-2016 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LenA (Post 2727478)
I saw a 326mm front Brembo kit on CSG site. Do these brakes require spacer for stock wheels and are they lighter than stock brakes. They look like they use 1 piece rotors and 4 piston calipers

Thanks

Len

I contacted CSG and spoke with Mike over the phone about the kit and it will require a 20mm spacer to fit stock wheels. They are lighter than stock brakes, but not AP Racing light. They include 1 piece rotors so cost of entry is lower and over time can be upgraded to 2 piece rotors to further reduce weight. The Brembo GT caliper allows for thicker pads. That's all the basic info. Would definitely recommend giving them a call to find out further details.

CSG Mike 08-12-2016 12:10 PM

Well, what would you like to know? The kit overall is lighter; the rotors are heavier (they are, after all, much larger than stock). You will need a 20mm spacer to clear stock wheels. Maybe (speculated) 15mm for the 17 performance pack wheels.

LenA 08-12-2016 12:43 PM

Thanks for reply. I don't really need better brakes yet, but trying to identify options when I get to that point where I do need/want to upgrade.

Len

Wise 03-23-2018 02:32 AM

Are there any wheels smaller than 18x9.5 that can clear these brakes without a spacer?

CSG Mike 03-23-2018 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 3062621)
Are there any wheels smaller than 18x9.5 that can clear these brakes without a spacer?

Absolutely.

17x8, 17x9 are popular options.

Wise 03-23-2018 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3062647)
Absolutely.

17x8, 17x9 are popular options.

Do you know if Weds TC105N in 17x9 +35 will clear?

CSG Mike 03-23-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wise (Post 3062705)
Do you know if Weds TC105N in 17x9 +35 will clear?

Sure does!

blown 05-02-2018 11:34 AM

are the rotors off the shelf?

CSG David 05-02-2018 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blown (Post 3080776)
are the rotors off the shelf?

They are Brembo HP discs from their high performance division. The metallurgy is different from the standard off the shelf OE replacement, aftermarket tuner replacement, and even OEM application.

juliog 05-02-2018 10:42 PM

For anyone reading, these are the brakes the OP is asking about:

CSG Spec Brembo Big Brake Kit for Subaru BRZ / Toyota 86 / Scion FR-S

Great kit, but there's no one size fits all when it comes to brakes. CSG can steer you to the right solution based on your needs and budget

:)

blown 05-02-2018 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 3081133)
They are Brembo HP discs from their high performance division. The metallurgy is different from the standard off the shelf OE replacement, aftermarket tuner replacement, and even OEM application.

are they interchangeable with OE sized STI rotors? 5x100.

CSG Mike 05-03-2018 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blown (Post 3081239)
are they interchangeable with OE sized STI rotors? 5x100.

Yes

blown 05-05-2018 06:01 AM

they work with stock rears?

and do they clear 949 Racing 6UL 17x9 +40

in stock for shipping out monday?

pads interchange with STI brembos as well? or the evo brembos?

juliog 05-15-2018 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blown (Post 3082360)
they work with stock rears?

Yes.

CSG Mike 05-15-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blown (Post 3082360)
they work with stock rears?

and do they clear 949 Racing 6UL 17x9 +40

in stock for shipping out monday?

pads interchange with STI brembos as well? or the evo brembos?

Yes, with stock rears

Yes, clear 17x9 +40 6UL

Yes, if you want black. They are normally built to order.

Yes, they can use STI/Evo brembo shape pads, but can also accept thicker pads.

HachirocksU 04-06-2020 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3062647)
Absolutely.

17x8, 17x9 are popular options.


Will 17x8 949's clear? Thank you!

CSG Mike 04-06-2020 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HachirocksU (Post 3316526)
Will 17x8 949's clear? Thank you!

Only with big spacers.

HachirocksU 04-06-2020 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3316535)
Only with big spacers.

17x9's then i guess. Will contact when rdy. Thank you and stay safe! :)

warhawk03 02-02-2021 08:40 PM

Do OZ Ultraleggera 17x8 +48's clear the GT kit?

CSG Mike 02-05-2021 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warhawk03 (Post 3403883)
Do OZ Ultraleggera 17x8 +48's clear the GT kit?

V1? Not even close

V2 with spacers

Mike_ZN6 02-05-2021 02:10 PM

@CSG Mike Other than the brake pads, what is different about the CSG spec Brembos versus the regular Brembo GT kit?


Are CSG spec Brembo/Brembo GT calipers different from the OEM Performance Package calipers?

warhawk03 02-05-2021 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 3404544)
V1? Not even close

V2 with spacers

Haha, they must be a bit different for dimensions compared to the Brembos as part of the Performance Pack.

Thank you!

CounterSpace Garage 02-07-2021 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warhawk03 (Post 3404671)
Haha, they must be a bit different for dimensions compared to the Brembos as part of the Performance Pack.

Thank you!

They are wider and more rigid than the Brembo Performance Package units. :thumbsup:

Ed.bbfec86 03-29-2022 01:04 PM

What exactly is the difference between the csg spec brembo kit and the regular brembo gt kit? I think it would be helpful to list the differences specifically on your website because it's very vague @CounterSpace Garage

CounterSpace Garage 09-28-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed.bbfec86 (Post 3513609)
What exactly is the difference between the csg spec brembo kit and the regular brembo gt kit? I think it would be helpful to list the differences specifically on your website because it's very vague @CounterSpace Garage

To clear things up since we started to get more inquiries about it, we worked in collaboration with some very key individuals involved with Brembo to develop this kit many years ago with a commitment to have the kit engineered and produced. Without CSG commissioning program, none of this would have been produced. In other words, Brembo originally made this kit for us after we tossed money at it, but now it is commercially available as an off the shelf kit now. We've done the stress testing on the system and have a strong idea of what compounds work with the system to bring the most out of the performance.

All "CSG Spec" now comes with specifically matched compounds for the kit. There are pads that work okay and pads that work very well. There's the idea of math'ing out a system and there's actual test validation for balance. We've also done the Brembo STI, Brembo PP, and Brembo GT back to back testing with the same pad compounds and they all operate differently. :)

redlined600 07-12-2024 11:05 AM

Does anyone have the torque specs for this kit.
a: Spec for bolts that attach the bracket to the knuckle
b: Spec for bolts that attach the caliper to the bracket

Additionally P/N(s) for the rebuild kit/parts would be handy

Thanks!


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