2017 BRZ Or Luxury?
 

So I planned on getting the 2017 BRZ and I was gona do some mods, im more of an exterior kind of person, so i was going to get exhaust, body kit, intake, rims, and jus other small stuff. But its either do that or get a lexus or bmw and not do any mods to it. Which would you guys prefer? i been thinking hard on the subject but i would like to hear some opinion. and of course buying the luxury car would cost more thats why i wouldn't end up doing mods to it.

The cars you are speaking about are polar opposites.

Only you know what's right for you.

As a car guy...I could not own a car or truck, and not mod it :)

If you ask this question you should stick with Lexus, Brz is nowhere near what most ppl consider comfortable. "it's a comfortable sports car, but that's miles away from lexus"

Have you driven a BRZ/FR-S yet?

If you can afford buying a Lexus or a BMW, maybe you should consider buying instead a WRX STI. It'll be a cheaper option and you'll not need to mod it at all. It is ready from the factory. You'll not have much luxury, but more of a real car. BRZ/86 in stock form is not really there and you'll need to know what you're doing for going closer to the level of WRX STI. Some ex-BRZ/86 owners, went already into this direction and changed their cars. Of course, it depends always on your needs and what you're looking for ...

Buy the luxury car. Based on your question, you would hate the BRZ. You would pump all that money into those mods, and it still wouldn't provide the display of status you're looking for. Then you'd get fed up with it and try to sell it, only to find that the mods made the car worth less rather than more.

Get a BMW, let everybody know you're a baller.

LOL, no, by my nature, I can never be happy with what is designed for the masses, I like to make it my own.

You're on a frs/Brz/gt86 forum. We're obviously gonna tell you to pick one side here lol.

It totally depends on what you're wanting. If you value comfort and quality most, then you can only get that from luxury cars. If you value high performance at a good price, then you might look at the STI and Evo (but they are not comfortable and don't have high quality interiors/styling). You have to let us know what you value from most to least...

I haven't driven the BRZ yet, Im only driven Acura, Lexus, Bmw

You gotta take one out...You will know one way or the other in less than 10 minutes lol

Holy subjective question batman


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I always wanted to be able to have a MOD car, i love having the car be different from other people. thats why i was planning on getting the brz and putting basically only exterior mods into it, which would probably end up costing less than me getting the luxury car. i got a few friends who would help me install most of the parts themselves so i save money on labor as well.

2017 BRZ Or Luxury?
 

I think you might hate it & think it has some problem all the time... Especially Coming from Acura,Lexus,BMW. 😂

From your first post alone I would tell you stick with Lexus. Unless you wanna start tracking & understand what the car is really for.

If you gonna move to Japan or middle of Europe /New Zealand with God amazing road then go ahead & buy one there. Lol Driving this car in most of us is like brain dead boring due to our wide & easy boring roads.

In the end, unless you appreciate the kind feedback the car is giving you, I can bet you are not gonna like it. Especially since you only drove Acura/Lexus/BMW before...You probably will just classify them as unwanted noise & vibration.


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There's a side of me that always want to roll around in a mint Lexus LS400 and just leave it totally stock. But then again if I want to spend some quality time on a couch, why not just stay home. The business of driving for me does not require luxury.

No right answer. But think of all the fun you can personally doing the interior mods and the frustartion.

This car is fun as hell stock...

I don't think I would buy a BRZ in Florida unless I planned to track / autox it regularly. These cars really only shine when you can throw them around corners and drive fast.

You're asking this question to a group of people who own the BRZ/FRS.....I'm pretty sure we've made our preference known.

But really, you should drive all the cars you're considering and decide after that. No sense in investing too much thought into it before you even know if you like how the BRZ drives.

Goes both way, you could spend money making a sport car luxurious or make luxurious car sporty. Imho I'd pick the body style I like best (twin) than make it look luxurious inside, than you'll have both lol or get a BMW/Lexus than pour more money into it making it look more sporty (outside, maybe extras on inside).. preferences..

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Honestly, as you live in Florida (where I'm from BTW), the twins aren't going to be that great.

I'd want a straight line car that's convertible...

It depends of what you want. Personally I believe it is useless to change just the exterior. You'll get smoked by the others and then you'll feel silly. Then you'll start thinking to change also the internals, looking for forced induction etc. The chances will be that in the end you'll spend much more money and have a car with problems. This platform was built from the beginning with NA on mind and it has a HIGH compression ratio engine. This leads to many design issues and it is not easy to MOD it. Do you want to buy a car which is easy to MOD? Get a car with a turbo from factory, then change the ECU parameters with a COBB kit or something similar. You'll have much more potential. Even a bigger turbo will be easier, depending of how much the stock engine can handle. The best reason to buy a BRZ/86 is if you want to have an affordable, light and nimble car. By today standards it will not be slow, but not fast either.

Too many variables. Is it a daily or weekend toy? Will you want track it or do some auto cross?

Assuming you will be moding (regardless of car you buy), can you afford the higher price tag of moding a luxury brand?

If you love moding as a hobby un to itself then the twins are a fantastic starting point.

All said and done I'd make testing each candidate as my first step.

BRZ vs Lexus - is this a joke???

Have you even test driven any of these cars - Lexus is a boat, BRZ is a go kart in comparison.

You won't like the BRZ. It's rough, noisy, slow and cheap. I wouldn't even bother with the test drive.

G37, Lexus...IS300

I've never liked the idea of buying a car and just leaving it stock. Anyone can buy a car, but few can mod it well. I would rather have a slow but unique car than an expensive cookie cutter. I drove a 328i before getting my BRZ and while the car was good in many ways I can't say with honesty that I was ever excited in it. Plus it looked so bland and similar to other 328's that it never made me feel unique.

First of all, test drive the BRZ. Asking for opinions on a car when you personally haven't driven it is kinda pointless. After you get an impression for how it feels you will have a much easier time deciding.

Except, you know, the crazy amount of people that have boosted this car and it's running fine. Direct injection is naturally a knock suppressant, and the D4S system has massive overhead, unlike say a WRX where there is a brick wall of how much power you can make as you can't increase the size of the injectors.

IDGAF I'd rock the hell out of that...

Hell, if I could afford it I would do this

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7397/9...a0b2f0de_o.jpg

/flamesuit on

You have to keep the boost to a minimal level, because the effective compression ratio goes way up. If there are no issues, can you tell me why the factory increased the block rigidity in the revised engine?


http://i63.tinypic.com/2psqd5w.png (Purple): stiffened areas


For sure, they didn't do this for the +5hp power increase. If I wanted to go FI, then I would wait for the revised engine. It has the potential to handle much more power.

Likely the same reason block revisions are done by other makers. As the block is a cast unit and open to relatively loose tolerances and potential flaws, overbuilding them because of a rare failure is a good idea. This is why when warranty work is done, the old parts are sent back for inspection to figure out why the part failed. Also, changing a sand cast item is relatively cheap, so if it stops the .01% failure rate, it pays for itself.

I will agree the new engine will likely hold more power, but not simply because of the ribbing. The aluminum intake manifold will handle more pressure than the plastic one and got a much longer period of time.

i keep thinking about selling it for more luxury. I drive about 80 miles highway 4 days a week. The road noise, meh stereo kinda wear on me. The ride isn't too bad tbh.

I just haven't found a reasonable replacement. You can have a cheap luxury car, and you can have a cheap drivers car... but having both in 1 is quite a bit of $$$.

Both of those are fixable for not a huge amount of money. Any decent audio shop can sound deaden the car. Here's a DIY that nalc did covering the entire process.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53511

For audio, OEM Audio+ has the DSP requirements down to a science, but a high quality audio shop that will actually measure frequency response to tune the DSP will be able to come up with similar results.

I came to the BRZ from a Lexus IS250 F-Sport. Initially, I liked it, but came to loathe it very quickly. It was too soft, the manual transmission was garbage, it didn't handle well, didn't have any power, wasn't technologically advanced, had the steering wheel buttons from a Corolla, etc. It looked good and was comfortable. I can't think of any other attribute.

Dumped it for my BRZ and couldn't be happier with the decision. Entry-level luxury cars are (typically) neither good at luxury or driving experience. If you double your spend, then you can probably have the best of both worlds, but at significant cost to yourself. Just my $0.02.

This all depends also on your budget...I came from a BMW. Work for BMW. My wife has a BMW. I drive an FRS. I love my car. Its a blast to drive (I live in FL by the way), looks good, sounds good, relatively cheap to mod. BUT...if I had the choice, I personally would rather have an M235i. I feel like its a good combination of sport and luxury. Fun to throw in the turns, still good straight line for those boring FL roads...

I personally hate luxury cars. Sure i enjoyed driving my parents 325i one time. But compared to the smile i get on my face whenever i take my BRZ around corners that car is nothing.

Again as many people said, best thing to do is research and then make the decision yourself. It took me 5 years of research and decision making before i bought my BRZ. I wanted to make sure it was the car i was going to spend 30k on. After all that and finally getting the keys though i couldnt be happier. I look forward to driving every day.

In the end the cars shortcomings (noisy, rough ride, crickets) wont bother you if you love your car. I personally dont think taking these types of negative things into account so early is a good idea. Best thing to do is test drive it at least a few times.

Can you see yourself driving this everyday? Will you be happy with the power? How badly do you want to mod it? Keep these in mind.