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Is this bullshit?
Is there such thing as german engineering being better than toyota engineering? My friend drives a mercedes okay he has a point his engine is double the size of my engine, and that the porsche is smaller than my car and has a bigger engine too. Anyhow. I get it the FR-S is not all that but this is a sports car and the engineering in this car is far more balanced than that of a mercedes, right? I went inside a Mercedes and if I wanted a lot of horsepower I would get a charger then but seriously Mercedes is not that perfect is it? What's german engineering, seriously.
His car but with exhaust mods, and if you can guess what this car exactly is then you are an expert. Because I have no idea if it's an E class entirely, but I will ask him. What do you guys think this Mercedes, Year, Make, and Model is? By the way this is the car that I was sitting in. https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=580CFDE7 |
Bro in before the lock and the ass chewing begins
Yes I'll give you the rice noodle😘 |
Idk what he do, but i wanna that crap he is using
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You guys have no clue what you are talking about. My question is details about the fundamentals of German Made Cars and Toyota Made Cars
Engineered by two different companies, and I believe he drives a Mercedes E class. But the point is does Mercedes and Toyota engineering have anything to do with the FR-S at all? Idk if you guys are really experts at this but I'll leave this for those who get what I'm trying to say. |
To compare two cars obviously at different levels is unfair. Compare the E class to it's equivalent like a Lexus RC. I would put Lexus (Toyota really) engineering up against Mercedes any day.
It's not really anything to do with the FR-S. The guy is just an asshat. Invite him to follow the FR-S down a windy road. It's not fair to the Mercedes, but he seems to like lopsided battles so fuck him. |
Dude, pass that shit you keep smoking/eating
Or at lest share where you are getting it from. |
He sounds like the average BMW/Audi/Mercedes fanboy I come across.
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I can't speak for how reliable Benzes are, but I seriously dig the SLS AMG as well as its successor, the AMG GT.
Also, your car and your friend's Benz are two completely different cars. On top of that, a new E-Class sedan according to the MB USA website is $52,650, almost twice the amount of a new FR-S or BRZ. For that amount, I would definitely expect the quality to be much higher than that of an FR-S or a BRZ. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. Opinions are subjective, and you and your friend clearly had different wants/needs when buying your cars. Don't let it get to you. Maybe I might want one when I'm older, but as of now, I see no point in buying a luxury car. My opinion, though. |
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I told him I got the FR-S only because the handling is a lot smoother, reliable and responsive. I highly doubt his boat-sized E class coupe can match the reliability of an FR-S in handling. |
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I got mad because I really wanted a car that had superior handling. And I mean I knew it was bullshit the second I stepped in his car, but really? That car is nothing like an FR-S in handling no matter who the fuck engineered it. Which is why I think the FR-S really is its own seperate class and cannot be compared. Because what car actually FEELS better than the FR-S in driving? Other than the Porsche maybe? I have yet to drive one. |
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One is not better than another. They are just different. Some would say German cars are over engineered. While Japanese cars are more about efficiency. In the end, if they engineer something and it works out, the others will just copy.
Look up his car. The weight and hp. You'll get a good laugh. |
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Maybe it's a comfortable ride but definitely not one compared to an FR-S precise maneuvers. I even told his lopsided ass he's going to get "maneuvered" |
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This is the sedan; I'm not sure if your friend has the coupe or cabriolet. |
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I can probably pull up a better picture to get a better guess of what his car's make, model and year is. I'm thinking it is an E Class 2005 probably. |
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Again, I wouldn't worry about it. |
So you never answered what are you smoking ?
Yes I'll give you the rice noodle😘 |
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I smoked and doesnt produce the "high" effect you are getting. Maybe you mixin' up?
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The differences in purpose have been covered so I will stick to the engineering aspect of the question.
Engineering is engineering is engineering no matter where something is designed. The engineers in Germany use exactly the same math and data that is used anyplace else in the world. It is the application of that engineering that varies. The Japanese engineers are just as capable of engineering at the same level as the Germans they just have a different focus. The whole "German engineering is the best" thing is very much a successful marketing campaign that VW has used for decades. In reality it is just plain old engineering no better or worse that anyplace else in the world. Now if you want to talk complexity that is a whole different matter. They do love them some overly complex machinery. The Panther tank of WW2 is a great example. By far the most potent tank on the battlefield for 2 years but they were obliterated by the Russian tanks. The Panther was so complex that they took forever to build, required extensive maintenance and in some cases the parts were not even interchangeable between different vehicles. The Russian T 34 however was a basic design, practically built in open fields in massive number, that could be repaired by a dude with a tool pouch in the dark at minus 30 degrees using parts they picked up off the ground. All in all a classic case of the cheaper less complex engineering winning over the expensive and more advanced design. |
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You do know what's going on around you here? |
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The new flagship Mercedes was named best "Driver's Car", perhaps in part due to the fact they won Formula 1 convincingly for a while.
In the mid-90's, and with all due respect and no disrespect; you could literally drive an S-Class into a concrete pillar at 100k/hr. and survive. RIP, PBUH. When I was a young man, the average car thief could steal a car in less than a moments time. Mercedes was the most difficult to steal at the time as it was told. Today, all it takes is a magnet or coat hanger to break into my FR-S and steal my sunglasses that even the poorest of pensioners couldn't afford in 2 weeks. |
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Although it may be the same result, I'd say you still have to be careful or at least take preventative action. It is inevitable. Like some places on the strip; you need more security, more frisking, more body cavity searches probably maybe because of the music being played is my guess. |
I'm not high enough for this shit.
(I dont smoke, I just wanted to join in on the fun) |
lol this thread.
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Japanese car has better design with caring in mind - they tried to find a way that is best performance and easy for user to repair or extend the reliability. German cars are opposite, they just cramp the part in there and end up with difficult in repair or replace. I had a c36 Amg for a while and my biodegradable harness degraded itself and cause shortage. Cost me $1800 to have it replace. The mechanic told me all of the Mercedes at that era (late 90s ) has same problem. Your friend is comparing a lexury car to a econo sports car, that is not a valid comparison. A current Hyundai ( which was joke in 90s) now could pack more "engineer" than your friends Mbz. A Prius also have more "engineering" than his Mbz. Anyway, my point is that our car is a simple fun sports car and that is the soul of AE86
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Benz > Brz
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Seriously.
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Over the lifetime of your 86 compare against your friend's Merc the number of repairs made, cost of repairs and number of days spent off the road. You'll see the difference in german engineering. They make great cars when they work, but the problem is, things always break in german cars and it costs a lot to fix. That's why IMHO german cars suck.
I won't own another german car- working on them sucks, it's a PITA when they always have something wrong with them, every nut bolt and doodad costs twice what it should- you basically become a guinnea pig to test the latest tech they want to shove in the car. In the end, most people who buy german either get a Porsche that they know is going to be a PITA but nothing drives like a Porsche (which is true) or a similar high end sports car and reliability is not an issue- or they are buying a name brand and they are either clueless about what a POS they are getting into or don't care but now everyone will know they are a douchebag and that cache is important to them. People will pay a lot and put up with a lot to be seen in the "right" car. |
Your move, Germany.
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