School Will Be The Death of Me
 

So school is literally killing me.

So after I die, I'll have my mom part out my car for you all.

RIP me. :brokenheart:

Wait till you have to be a part of the real world...

I've always hated that argument. Im only 4 years out from college but it was just as stressful (actually more stressful) then my current job. Good and bad suoervisors/teachers, group work with good and bad coworkers/classmates, worrying about money. I worried about graduating on time to avoid going into debt. I can't imagine how bad it is for those taking a ton of loans out. 6 classes each quarter and an unpaid internship for 2 years isn't a joke.

You go to school hoping to make money and then go get a job and worry about money.

Granted I've never been one to really bitch about something. Life as a whole is hard but you gotta get shit done. Stress is real no matter the cause and how trivial it may seem years later.

School is actually fun, you will appreciate it after you start working. Post school life is not necessary better. It is different kind of stress, social life rings gets smaller, stress from work, stress from payments, hate yourself not able to have nicer things...etc. My recommendation is to get the best out of it, do well in school, make friends, you will have a good return in the future.

Then apparently I went to the wrong school (or should I say right one). If you can't handle the stresses of school then how can you ever expect to be a functioning adult of society and handle the stress of owning a home starting a family managing a group of people or project at work. Not saying the OP can't do these things or won't be able to but really I truly feel that this last generation or so of kids are hand fed so much stuff that when they make it to college they are not even remotely prepared to handle the class load because they have had little to zero responsibility to this point in their lives to manage(Once again a generalization.)

Yeah, none of us have any responsibilities, except dealing with the fallout of poor environmental choices by prior generations and other various topics that border on politics, which we can't talk about.

Someone is having a tough time with school and a couple people are already crapping on them. Maybe it isn't as stressful as "the real world," but that's no reason to poop on them.

And I HATE people saying "the real world" as if we're all in some hunky-dorey mamby pamby land of pillows.
Since my sophomore year, I have worked, I have paid the majority of my bills, I have gone to school, etc. This IS the real world for many of us, and it's not a cake walk. Hell forbid we complain about anything short of missing a mortgage payment.

Well, obviously if you can't make it in school you cant make it after. Everything is just obstacles you have to get through. But maybe I'm the only one that looks at things that simply.

I was going to school while part of "the real world" so maybe I'm different. I got "lucky" by inheriting a house when the woman that raised me very suddenly passed away. Beyond dealing with the death the house is over 100 years old and still needs so much work its not even funny. We're tackling one big project a year hoping to take care of it eventually. I was taking 6 classes (thats 36 hours in classroom a week so almost full time) and doing an internship that was 8 hours a week. I had to move back to said house and commute over an hour to school each way and then another 15-60 to my internship depending on traffic. I worked 20 hours a week and still needed with living expenses. No job I have held has been more stressful then that

I've been fortunate in my life but not spoiled. Getting help along the way isnt wrong if you make something of it in the end cuz it wont always be there. I know some people dont agree with that but it's just how I see it.

I know a handful of guys my age that still live at home with no job or the same minimum wage since after high school. But I also know plenty of kids who moved out at 18 and 10 years later have a family and are buying their first home. It may be more slackers or whatever then prior generations but its a poor generalization to think its the majority.

The OP states that school is "literally" killing him. At best that is melodramatic and at worst that means he is pretty much screwed when it comes to the rest of his life. Maybe he needs to take a close look at what he is studying and determine if he is cut out for it or maybe he just likes to complain. Either way his statement almost begs people to poop on him.

I can agree with these bits. :cheers:

In all honesty, I just need a break (summer vacation). Taking 4 upper division classes 3 quarters in a row this year & also having to work has just taken a toll on me.

I didn't know I'd get this much feedback from that complaint of a post LOL :lol: :clap:

Oh dude you had to have known!!!!!!

You are not new!!!!!!!!!

I would have expected it from Squady!!!!!!!

Hahahah i didn't you guys would have like THAT much to say from a post like that! lol

I may have posted that too just out of procrastination sake.

But a lot of people in my generation (at least at my school) are questioning the ways they teach us. Like one of my professors graduated in '71 & he told us how he had to do literally everything by hand & whatnot. But now whenever an alumni comes to talk about what they do after they've graduated, they're always saying how everything is conputerized. Like they're not going to be calculating every single little thing w a pen & paper.

Sometimes curriculum isn't very strict for some classes either. For one of my classes, this is the professors first time teaching it & they just changed the book last year (to a book that has a VERY LARGE amount of errors), & it is obvious to us he doesn't really know what he's doing in the class. The lectures are practically just taken from the book word for word, he isn't really clarifying anything that much.

That's why sometimes it's frustrating. lol

What's you major?

You will run into every one of those things in the workforce as well. Bosses that do not have a clue, changes in systems that just don't work, policies and procedures that were obviously written by blithering idiots, having to do things in a manner that you don't think is the easiest of best and just about every other thing that go can happen in school. None of what you said is just a school thing.

Learning to do things with pen and paper even though it is done on computer. It tells you what the computer is doing and gives you an understanding as to what it all means. Also a great way to catch errors and believe me computers (or more accurately their operators) do make errors. Anybody can sit and enter stuff into a computer but understanding that material is a whole different matter.

Mine is Mechanical Engineering.

What are you going to do when you are out of school, need a break and those nice summer vacations are gone?

Right I understand. I guess I'm just being young/closed minded & expecting life to be perfect right now because it's the "college years" haha

& yes I know it totally gives you the fundamentals of why everything you're taught is the way it is. That is why some professors really insist on learning the derivations for some formulas and theories. I'm not saying that those should be taught, I just feel we would have more benefit of learning at least a bit more on how we would apply these things to different scenarios & problems.

While not necessarily a direct correlation to your class, I can tell you that the differences I observe between people that understand what the tools they use are doing and the people that just know how to do something with the tool are significant. I see this at work and in some of my hobbies.

Then too, tools change but the underlying stuffed doesn't typically. If you know what it's doing, you just have to learn how apply the tool... not relearn how to do whatever it is you thought you could do.

IMO this is the right way to teach. Otherwise it's like claiming you can drive your C7 when you've just got all the nannies on.

Also, discovering applications teaches you to stretch... being handed them can close your mind to new ideas.

I see this frequently with my engineering interns (usually have 3 or 4 a year pass through) and figure it is just the way the course schedules work. I have seen ones that had all the math but had no idea how to apply it yet and others that knew exactly what math they needed for an application but had not learned it yet. Unfortunately as much as teaching/learning should be linear the real world requirements make it fragmented and compartmentalized. There really isn't much that can be done about that I am afraid.

Right. I guess that is me in the sense of I understand things conceptually relatively easily. It's when the "hardcore math" comes in is where I struggle a bit.

I'm more of the latter. I came into university with a high school education that incorporated many engineering things. We were mostly taught the concepts & I loved it. They never showed us the "nitty gritty" of what lies behind the concepts and that is what they are now teaching us in university. Even when I study with friends at school, it usually goes somewhere along the lines of me explaining to them what everything means conceptually, and them helping me better understand the math behind it.

Go down to Costco and get a case of these for summer break.

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Oh, imaguitar, I suggest you just take it test by test; course by course, credit hour by credit hour; semester by semester; year by year ....... and eventually they will give you the piece of paper you're looking for ....... :thumbsup:


humfrz

I am 36...about halfway done with my Master's in Healthcare Administration and an MBA (Dual Master's Program).

I am a full-time worker and a full-time student.

I am carrying a 4.0.

I am actually making money while going to school because of the G.I. Bill from my Army enlistment.

The reason I am doing fine? I am more mature and focused than I was when I was in my teens and my early 20s. I didn't start my Bachelor's until I was 32 or 33?

I don't want to shit all over the OP. But I do get tired of hearing how hard shit is.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HARD. It is supposed to prepare you for the "Real World".

Yes, you can have crappy teachers etc. But you can have crappy managers as well.

EDIT: After reading more of the Thread...the OP just seems to be blowing off steam and he is still trucking! Keep on kicking ass OP! And don't feel bad watching people fail out of their "Gender Studies" and other SJW Majors.

THIS...so much fucking this.

Read above...also my Master's is kinda easy for me because I have been a part of this work force since 1999. I actually understand what is being taught and have RL experience to draw upon.

TCoat whatya said really applies to everything.

Man OP, us engineer students have it rough. What school are you at?

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No one was "pooping" on anyone here. It was a simple comment to say if you think your life is stressful now then it only gets more so in the future.

This is true and was just a generalization of what most people do with their life. Personally that is the route I am going with my life. However I chose to take advantage of being able to take college classes while in high school. Sure I had 0 social life in the last 2 years of high school. But what I was able to do is get 2 years of college for free(to myself of course tax payers paid of this nothing is free in life). By doing this it allowed me to once I moved on to a life as a WORKING college student to be able to not only go to school full time but also work full time and then some. While going to school for my robotics and automated systems degree I was able to also work 60hrs a week. I was able to do this because I planned ahead and had the avenues open to me to be able to take college classes early and get all the generals done when I was in high school so that I could simply focus on the classes that I was required to take to obtain my degree. Now I'm sure this is not something that is available for everyone let alone something that everyone would want to do. I guess I didn't expect to get some much flak about a simple comment. Perhaps I should of put it bluntly and said "Oh just wait it gets worse" then what I commented. Looks like the OP understood where I was coming from so Ill leave it at this.

Right there with you riding the struggle bus, hopefully it will get better.


I've literally had a full - time job since graduating high school ('07) while a bunch of my friends went to college for 4 years and still haven't found a job yet.


Decided to get my A.S. in electrical technology back in '10 and that helped me get better jobs while working through it full time.


Now, I'm maxed out at my current employer and am going back to finish up my bachelors in electrical engineering, majoring in automation. I feel dead every day, empty and lifeless. Kind of like cruising on auto-pilot. I never really feel awake because I don't get much sleep. Get up for work at 530 and drive an hour to start at 7am. Get out a 3:30, drive an hour to school which starts at 530pm three sometimes four nights a week until 930-10pm. Go home, take a shower, eat dinner then pass out and do it all over again. My girlfriend, whom I live with, broke her ankle two weeks ago. So on top of all that, I have to find time to clean the apartment, cook for her, laundry, etc. Sometimes I have to work Saturdays. My only day to sleep in is Sunday morning and I'm lucky if the neighbors dogs don't start barking at 7am.


halp

Because you don't know what the word "literally" means, literally. Hence the trolling.

-alex

We'll there you go then, engineering should be tough because you'll need to be on your shit once what you do costs thousands/millions of dollars if you slack and fuck up. I'm a EE, we got put through the ringer in school (worse than an ME in my school at least) but it's so worth it. You'll stop crying once you make money :thumbup: just pick something you're interested in. Hang in there.

Your literal use of "literally" is literally not literal.


Dammit! Semantic satiation.

It only makes sense that a clickbait thread title like this is created by someone young and still in school. It's pretty much what young people are into these days.

About 3 months into my job out of school I fucked up on a design and cost my company about 14k... I thought for sure that was my ass, I was seriously ready for my final check and a lousy reference. Thank god my boss was chill as hell about it. He took me to "The Boneyard" to give me a tour of all his failed designs, concepts, prototypes. Gave me a story about hard work and always improving and learning from my mistakes. Now, I'm much more confident in my designs and have moved from making little parts to million dollar machines with only minor hiccups to accompany me.

I tried tallying up how much money was sitting in the boneyard in material, machining, labor, time, etc. I figure it's somewhere to the tune of $35 million just collecting weeds and housing wasps.

I could show you a couple of million dollars in failed production equipment just from pictures currently on my phone. And these were designed by experienced engineers that do nothing but design production equipment (not our engineers).

Life is like a arcade. You throw your money inside the machine and hope it comes out with a lot more money otherwise you will just have the joy of pulling the lever. Good luck!

If you are at an arcade and throwing your money in a machine and hoping to get more out you are in for one disappointing life.

If you are throwing your money in a machine and hoping more money comes out then life is like a casino not an arcade!

That's the thing about production equipment. You have to design something that doesn't exist in any capacity that only serves a super specific purpose and hope that it integrates with all the other crazy ass equipment around it... A few production workers here call our line "Rube" haha

But a casino would not work in this sense unless we are talking about circus circus that place is full of wild games anyhow I mention arcade, because of the numerous games asides the slot machine.

Do or die
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"Life is like a arcade. You throw your money inside the machine and hope it comes out with a lot more money
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The games that do not give you more money for the money you put in? As I said you are going to be very disappointed if you are throwing money into arcade games with the hopes of making more money from them.