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Wired86 04-15-2016 04:18 PM

Engine less throaty? What?
 
Got my BRZ's oil changed at the dealership the other day after having finished the engine break-in. I noticed today that there seems to be a significant reduction in engine noise. And maybe a loss of power? That doesn't make any sense for an oil change to have done that does it? I tried with windows up and windows down, all with the AC and radio off. I got it all the way to almost redline and even then the engine doesn't sound as throaty as it did before. Am I just imagining this or could there be an explanation? Also it is significantly warmer today than any other day that I've had this car. Almost 70f today wheras it didn't break 45 any other day since I've had it.

murdoc 04-15-2016 04:48 PM

Maybe the dealership updated or reset your ecu? It'll feel weird and sluggish as the car learns the throttle again.

Otherwise, a 30 degree temp change is enough to change how the car feels.

go_a_way1 04-15-2016 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wired86 (Post 2623426)
Got my BRZ's oil changed at the dealership the other day after having finished the engine break-in. I noticed today that there seems to be a significant reduction in engine noise. And maybe a loss of power? That doesn't make any sense for an oil change to have done that does it? I tried with windows up and windows down, all with the AC and radio off. I got it all the way to almost redline and even then the engine doesn't sound as throaty as it did before. Am I just imagining this or could there be an explanation? Also it is significantly warmer today than any other day that I've had this car. Almost 70f today wheras it didn't break 45 any other day since I've had it.

Its normal for an engine to be quieter (mechanical engine noise) after an oil change.

GT86Moi 04-15-2016 04:52 PM

How many miles did you have on your dash at oil change?

Wired86 04-15-2016 05:06 PM

@GT86Moi about 1250. @murdoc yeah, maybe. They also did a full 26 point (I don't remember how many points it was, lol) inspection. Would they have reset the ECU for that? @go_a_way1 that's what I figured, the gear box seems smoother now too. So, could just be something as simple as the fact that it's quieter due to the new oil.

MisterSheep 04-15-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wired86 (Post 2623503)
@GT86Moi about 1250. @murdoc yeah, maybe. They also did a full 26 point (I don't remember how many points it was, lol) inspection. Would they have reset the ECU for that? @go_a_way1 that's what I figured, the gear box seems smoother now too. So, could just be something as simple as the fact that it's quieter due to the new oil.

Replaces engine oil... "gearbox feels smoother now"



That would only happen if they replaced your trans fluid..

go_a_way1 04-15-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wired86 (Post 2623503)
@GT86Moi about 1250. @murdoc yeah, maybe. They also did a full 26 point (I don't remember how many points it was, lol) inspection. Would they have reset the ECU for that? @go_a_way1 that's what I figured, the gear box seems smoother now too. So, could just be something as simple as the fact that it's quieter due to the new oil.

Yup it will break down after 500 miles or so and be back to normal but it happens slowly so will likely not notice it.

go_a_way1 04-15-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterSheep (Post 2623507)
Replaces engine oil... "gearbox feels smoother now"



That would only happen if they replaced your trans fluid..

http://m.memegen.com/zsajvr.jpg

Wired86 04-15-2016 05:22 PM

Okay, maybe I'm imagining things. Haha. Yeah, I didn't think the gearbox should have changed, but it feels like it okay! Gosh.... get off my back. Haha. But really, everything does feel much more different than I'm used to post oil change. I'm still used to a 99 ford exploder that still sounded and felt like shit after an oil change. Haha.

Wired86 04-15-2016 05:25 PM

If I want to believe in aliens, I can do that. If I want to imagine that my gearbox feels smoother to make me happier about the fact that the engine doesn't seem as loud, even though the gearbox is the same, I will do that. Haha. But really, aliens. They are everywhere. Watch your back. Keep your guns close and don't forget you only have to outrun your friends. ;)

navanodd 04-15-2016 06:03 PM

Its the temperature. I've never encountered a vehicle so sensitive to low engine temps before.

Tcoat 04-15-2016 06:38 PM

My guess is they did something that required the battery to be unhooked and the ECU is just relearning.
Noticeable difference in sound and power from an oil change or temperature change?


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Wired86 04-15-2016 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 2623578)
My guess is they did something that required the battery to be unhooked and the ECU is just relearning.
Noticeable difference in sound and power from an oil change or temperature change?]

sounds about right to me.

Kostamojen 04-15-2016 07:08 PM

Did someone plug your noise tube?

GT86Moi 04-15-2016 07:19 PM

You should have hauled ass in the back roads and should have waited 250 miles for the oil change. But it's okay. After I did my 1000 mile break-in. I was driving up mountains hills and back roads for 500 miles where I would take my revs to 7k to seat the rings at high speeds.

xmadror 04-15-2016 08:44 PM

http://s9.postimg.org/pbiu0x8zz/I_am_not_saying.jpg

But seriously, like mentioned before I'd bet on an ECU reset.

krayzie 04-15-2016 10:34 PM

Use this problem solved!

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Ultramaroon 04-15-2016 11:33 PM

To those who say one can't feel/hear the difference, although I don't recommend it for others, I do not use my dipstick to check my oil. I can feel/hear the change enough to annoy me by about a third of a quart below full.

If I feel it and the pan is still full, it's time to change the oil. Mobile-1 0W20 lasts about 3500 miles for me. I'm using Amsoil for the first time and I have to say I'm quite impressed.

krayzie 04-15-2016 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 2623847)
To those who say one can't feel/hear the difference, although I don't recommend it for others, I do not use my dipstick to check my oil. I can feel/hear the change enough to annoy me by about a third of a quart below full.

If I feel it and the pan is still full, it's time to change the oil. Mobile-1 0W20 lasts about 3500 miles for me. I'm using Amsoil for the first time and I have to say I'm quite impressed.

Been on Eneos Sustina 0W-20 since 1500km then 0W-50 for the last two oil changes (every 5000km now car is around 26000km). Engine doesn't even burn one drop of oil ever.

themadscientist 04-16-2016 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wired86 (Post 2623521)
If I want to believe in aliens, I can do that. If I want to imagine that my gearbox feels smoother to make me happier about the fact that the engine doesn't seem as loud, even though the gearbox is the same, I will do that. Haha. But really, aliens. They are everywhere. Watch your back. Keep your guns close and don't forget you only have to outrun your friends. ;)

Aliens you say? The truth is out there.

https://img1.etsystatic.com/065/0/10...23353_kj9y.jpg

For oil I have been using the ELF synthetic from the dealer.

Wired86 04-16-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GT86Moi (Post 2623641)
You should have hauled ass in the back roads and should have waited 250 miles for the oil change. But it's okay. After I did my 1000 mile break-in. I was driving up mountains hills and back roads for 500 miles where I would take my revs to 7k to seat the rings at high speeds.

I did haul ass. I waited until 1k miles, then I put 170ish miles of very spirited driving in some curves and hills. I was shifting at about 6k+ and was getting it up to about 100 constantly.

Ultramaroon 04-16-2016 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 2623850)
Been on Eneos Sustina 0W-20 since 1500km then 0W-50 for the last two oil changes (every 5000km now car is around 26000km). Engine doesn't even burn one drop of oil ever.

It's only ever burned oil after a shit ton of canyoning. My one and only track day (bone stock, mind you) it sucked up 8 ounces. A fine little engine, really.


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