Online vendors sometimes charge this tax because they have multiple locations to ship from...in my case it is a Lenovo X220. I don't really know how this stuff works though, I know if you order from a store in another state you don't get charged tax, but these laptops ship from overseas so...

Anyways, sucks to live in California, a ton of the online retailers are here like Newegg (among many many more electronics etailers)...well I guess that's part of the deal for getting awesome weather.

Its actually 9.285, got some numbers mixed up.

The thing about Tennessee is we don't have a state income tax, unlike many states, including Cali, that's the reason our sales tax is somewhat higher than other states, which have a collective sales and income tax.

The pro to a sales tax only state is that sales tax is, by and large, mostly your choice. Unlike dishing out taxes from your income check to both the state and feds, you can make a choice on whether to buy something or not, aka, you chose to be taxed or not. Like Matador said, a great way around this is just to buy online and skip the sales tax completely.

Imo it would suck to see my paycheck lowered twice by two income taxes, then go to a store to buy something for my computer, and have to pony up yet another tax.

Oh we have 9.25% here, but it's "temporary", going to expire next year or so, then it'll go down to 8.25% again if they don't pass legislation reinstating it for 5 more years. It was passed to help fill in the giant budget holes, but we all know how that went...stupid politicians.

Tennessee also has lower corporate taxes, which has really helped the job market around Nashville.

Nissan USA moved its corporate HQ from L.A., to Franklin, literally, 2 miles from where I used to live. I'm still sending my resume in on every job opening there.:bellyroll: You never know!

It was probably a 2 part deal. The Corporate HQ would be closer to its main USA plant (located in Smyrna, which is literally 5 miles from where I currently live:bellyroll:), and they would be paying lower state corporate taxes and local property taxes. Williamson Co. isn't cheap, but I betcha its a helluva lot cheaper on business/property taxes than L.A.

Another benefit you guys with no income tax have is that if you live close to a border state, just make the short drive over for your big purchases (TV, furniture, electronics, nice clothes...etc.). Obviously this won't work for many people but for some it will.

On this page:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/safev...planations.htm

Go to section 9 and the immobilizer part. There was some manufacturer funny-business about the immobilizers that made them non-compliant unless they were modified, and if you see the part (won't let me cut-and-paste for some reason) about how manufacturers claim that it will affect safety and warranty, how many shops would do it with liability risks hanging over their head?

The problem was with whether their immobilizers (purely electronics) were compliant or not was by manufacturer's self disclosure.

It was a bit of a controversy in Subaru groups when there was about a $10k difference between US and Canadian STIs (even before our dollar was as high as it is now...). They may have been called out by agencies due to public outcry since that time though...

Are import tariffs different between US and Canada? Could that make up some of the difference?

I thought we stopped all that stuff with NAFTA? Hmm... but maybe we have different tariffs than the US with Japan? Never thought of that... But the manufacturers are still not playing honest trying to prevent cross-border shopping.

I don't know for sure, it was just an idea that came to me. Doesn't NAFTA regulate between Canada-US-Mexico only and each country would have its own relations with Japan.

Boasting a powerful V6 3.5L engine, the FT-HS is coupled with Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive to produce a target power output of approximately 400 horsepower.


http://www.marinadelreytoyota.com/us...os-angeles.jpg

Huh?

Spam.

For a moment I thought they might have posted in the wrong thread or were drinking a little too much from the bottle.

Hahaha, reading down the thread, and then coming to his post...

Immediately reminded me of the Colonel 'freak out session' towards the end of MGS2....kudos if you get what I'm talking about.

Sadly, Kentucky doesn't have this :(. Although they do tax goods that you buy out of state through the annual tax filing. I'd gladly trade 10% sales tax for no income taxes!

I think it'll be in the higher end of 20-23

My understanding on this section about the immobilizer are two points:

1. whether the car bought in US has it or not
2. whether that immobilizer is compliant with CMVSS 114

With that, you really need to check before you buy to see if the car you are buying has immobilizer. If not, you are on a tricky route trying to find an installer to get a certified part installed without voiding the warranty or you can just forget about it. Or you can check if the dealer in US can install one for you that is also in compliant with CMVSS 114. You might as well to check with their Canadian counterpart to determine the exact part number that is certified.

You are correct in one thing that it is probably very difficult to find any installer other than the dealer will do this kind of work.

So, that is something that you, as the importer, need to verify.

Taken from the webpage:


I would think this is just the way the manufacturers want you to install the OEM immobilizer. Since their Canadian counter part must have this manufactured after 2007, they should have the compliant part in their storage. What does that mean to us is that we have to take that hit from the dealer if immobilizer does not come in standard. That is all.

If I remember correctly, the sale tax is charged if the goods shipped and received within the same state. Once you cross the state border, there should be no sales tax. For example, shipping books from Nevada into Cali (I know Borders was doing that.)

Having said that, many vendors setup their distribution centers in states like Delaware, which has no state sale tax whatsoever. So if you buy goods shipped from Delaware, you would pay no sales tax.

Since you are in Cali, you really need to pick the vendor whether you would pay sales tax by buying online...

Well it's hard to avoid shopping at say, Newegg, which is amazing. Same with McMaster Carr. A lot of specialty aftermarket computer stuff shops are in California as well :( stupid tax.

Try paying 13% with everything you buy!! That stupid HST.

I am getting a feeling most people are voting for what they hope it will be priced at rather than what they predict it will be priced at. I guess those two things could be the same, however what I hope it to be priced at is much lower than what I predict/expect Toyota to price it at.

:bellyroll: YES!:happy0180:

Back in 1986 the original AE86 was around $12k in US depending on options. Pulled out an inflation calculator and that is just around $25k in 2011. Who knows much that will be by next year.

Prices in 1988

first price is 1988 MSRP

GT-S
$12,478
$23,908.08 adjusted for inflation in 2012

Corolla LE
$10,248
$19,635.36 adjusted for inflation in 2012
($18,670 2012 MSRP)
95% of 1988 price

Camry base
$11,248
$21,551.38 adjusted for inflation in 2012
(2012 $22,715 MSRP)
105% of MSRP (but auto is standard in 2012, was optional in 1988)

Camry V6 auto top model
$16,148
$30,939.87 adjusted for inflation in 2012
(2012 $30,605 MSRP)
99% of 1988 price

considering Scion has a "Pure Price" policy, they can price lower because they don't have to factor in people haggling from an invoice price.

It could easily be $23-24k

It should be 23-24k. But will it be?

i think it will be between 22-23 personally.
w/ the brz 24-27 depending on the model

Pure Price doesn't mean the dealer has to sell at MSRP. It just means they need to sell at whatever they advertise it for. They can advertise the car at MSRP + $1500 and that is ok. As long as it is advertised and openly known to the customer. Pure pricing is a bunch of BS imo.

My point was that, the traditional model allowed cars to be sold for under MSRP, even under invoice.

I don't think Pure Price does unless it's part of "Toyotathon" clearing out last years models.

So they can keep MSRP lower.

Still doesn't make sense to me.

Traditional model: MSRP $26k, invoice $24k customer pays $24k or whatever
Pure Price model: MSRP $24k, invoice whatever, customer pays $24k or whatever

The model doesn't matter. Customer will still end up paying whatever the automaker wants the car to be sold at.

PP is a BS because it doesn't let you make an offer at all.

thats why i hate it too. I get a lower price everytime I am really interested in buying a car.

$23,345 MSRP*

I've personally gotten a quote on that number aswell. Fairly confident it's correct at this point.

that would mean $24k after freight charge, just what I expected

... 24k for the FRS?

At most I expected that for the BRZ Premium

Sheesh.

My guess is 22k and the reason for that is that if you take a look at the 4 cars scion sells at the moment the 22k makes sense. I believe that anything above that would stick out too much.

iQ: $15,995
xD: $16,075
xB: $17,030
tC: $19,305

kind of amused that people somehow thought that Toyota/Subaru could or would produce a rwd sport coupe with independent suspension for $22k.

rwd costs more than fwd to build, independent suspensions cost more than the other options out there. Not sure why people think they would get all these things for the same price as a base Malibu.

you have to keep in mind that the fr-s base wont include a nav or some of the other fancy things the brz will. Just the navigation alone is a $2k upgrade and thats standard in all vehicles... to that add everything else and with the strip down version(fr-s base) you should atleast save a good $3k, which would bring the fr-s base down to $22k if the brz limited was to be priced at $25k. Thats my guess :)

nav is not a $2k option in all vehicles and especially not in ones that already include touch screen LCD displays. HID lights are worth $500-800 but other than that the fr-s is similarly equipped to the premium brz.

try the "build your own" option for any brand and model of any car online and add to the configuration navigation. It's $2k all the time. I have done it for bmw, audi, jeep, subaru and all of them charge 2k for nav as an option.

The fr-s interior is not as nice as the brz.. its slightly different, but it definetly looks cheaper.