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-   -   ok so ive been playing with this idea 2.8L v8 swap? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17943)

adamls2 09-26-2012 04:06 AM

Sounds like a cool concept. I probably wouldn't do it myself, but it would be nice to see someone that has just because they can.

Hawaiian 03-22-2013 04:17 AM

bump zombie thread. I wish I had the money for this thing. I'd totally swap it!

BuBlake 03-22-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawaiian (Post 810583)
bump zombie thread. I wish I had the money for this thing. I'd totally swap it!

I remember this old thread... Really was hoping something would materialize too...

wparsons 03-22-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 454456)
Is that the engine made by putting two Hayabusa engines together? Those things are nuts!!

The basis is two hyabusa engines, but they're 1.3L each so these are bored and stroked a bit, plus head work and different cams to get the 400hp I believe.

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Originally Posted by jimbobrand (Post 455644)
245 ft-lbs at 7,500rpm, not terribly impressive. I still stand by that that engine is a waste in something as heavy as our cars, it was developed for fairly lightweight (well under 2,000lbs) tube chassis race vehicles. Plus for the cost of $30k (new) or $15k-$18k (used) it isn't that great of a deal. For that sort of money there are plenty of other options, including building up the FA20 to get all the power you could want (maybe not 400 but 300 could be possible with the right parts). If RPM's are your thing then maybe a Mazda rotary would be more to your liking.

The cost alone should be a deal breaker, you can get far better performance for way less money.

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Originally Posted by Sanka86 (Post 455707)
I believe that motor was an option on the ariel atoms.

It's the only option on the atom v8's.

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Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 455758)
How much we talking for this engine?

See above, $30k new or just under $20k used.

mad_sb 03-22-2013 10:17 AM

It actually makes 170ish ftlbs from 2,500 up to 5,750 then it comes on cam and starts to climb to the 245ftlb peak..... so... it may not be so bad :)

http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/4550396.htm

Now, where did i put that extra 30k i had laying around the other day...

naikaidriver 03-22-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 810928)
It actually makes 170ish ftlbs from 2,500 up to 5,750 then it comes on cam and starts to climb to the 245ftlb peak..... so... it may not be so bad :)

http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/4550396.htm

Now, where did i put that extra 30k i had laying around the other day...

Having done other engine conversions (I will NEVER do another one), the costs involved with this even assuming that you did the custom motor/transmission mounts, exhaust, bellhousing, ignition, engine management, ect. are astronomical when done properly. Then, would the car really be streetable after?

Still, its is an awesome engine! If someone were to build a dedicated track car and had $80k to spend, it would rule assuming that a sanctioned racing body would allow such a car.

Scott

jamesm 03-22-2013 11:01 AM

if you can afford that engine, you can afford an ariel atom to put it in :)

jm1681 03-22-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 454431)
...4.0L v10...

You can't just say something like that and not give us a LITTLE more. I mean, if you're going to make me soil myself, at least give me something to read while I clean up.

mad_sb 03-22-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 811033)
if you can afford that engine, you can afford an ariel atom to put it in :)

:thumbsup:

carbonBLUE 03-22-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 812543)
You can't just say something like that and not give us a LITTLE more. I mean, if you're going to make me soil myself, at least give me something to read while I clean up.

AhH I'm still playing with the idea, still waiting on info for a few FI kits, this may be something i do after i play with the FA20 and I've got another dd

bolus 03-22-2013 10:08 PM

The H1V8 is in the Ariel Atom 500. Its a $50,000 engine. I have a 4 cylinder GM ecotec in my atom that is turbocharged and Im making more torque than this V8. Sure it can rev to 10,000 and weighs less. But its sure nice to have a $2500 engine if I ever needed to replace it rather than a $50k one.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps26226ec0.jpg

FreshFRS 03-23-2013 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jm1681 (Post 812543)
You can't just say something like that and not give us a LITTLE more. I mean, if you're going to make me soil myself, at least give me something to read while I clean up.

it's in development thats about as much as anyone knows, i looked at this engine and thought it would be great. i mean with twin turbos the V8 can make about a 1000 crank hp (google it some guy did it) and would still probably weigh about 50lbs less than an FA20 (my best guess on engine weight is 340) even more that an FA20 Turbo setup.

IMO the V10 will probably weigh about 275lbs or so and be 600hp ~330tq don't quote me on that but it would be bad ass. probably 50+k or so for the engine.

The Atom V8 is a beast i've sat in one and revved it but the owner would not let me drive it. took me for a ride though.

NickFRS 03-23-2013 03:53 AM

You could buy a cosworth 600 block for 16 grand brand new and built and a turbo kit + custom everything for under a 30 grand total. This is a waste of money IMHO

FreshFRS 03-23-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS (Post 813094)
You could buy a cosworth 600 block for 16 grand brand new and built and a turbo kit + custom everything for under a 30 grand total. This is a waste of money IMHO

while that is true, the H1V8 is a much smaller package, making it a little easier to package.


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