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swift996 05-30-2013 08:58 AM

Mine will be the 2014 Porsche Cayman S, just waiting for them to depreciate a little.

nalc 05-30-2013 09:51 AM

Hard to say. This is my 4th car, and the first 3 I got rid of at 18 years/149k, 13 years/154k, and 13 years/221k respectively, and I'm planning on keeping the BRZ for a comparable amount of time.

Assuming I don't need to get something significantly more practical, and barring any drastic changes in the auto market, I'd hope that my financial situation would allow for me to get a high-end sports car like a Porsche 911 or something similar without causing an excessive financial burden. But then I will look like I am going through a midlife crisis. Maybe after a long with with the BRZ I will prefer a comfy luxury cruiser, especially if self-driving cars are available and I could relax with a nice book while driving. I don't really like driving, but if I have to drive anyway, I might as well have fun doing it, which is why I got the BRZ in the first place. Plus I didn't want to look like just another yuppie with a CPO silver BMW 328i automatic or black Audi A4 2.0T automatic.

bakerr6 05-30-2013 10:32 AM

My next car will be a new truck (probably an ecoboost ford). I'm going to need something a little newer than what we currently have to tow the boat.

In regards to the 60s vette, we have one sitting right now in a storage space taht hasn't been driven in 20 years. It needs a full resto, but I don't have time for it right now.

If I can remember correctly (beena while since I've seen it) it is a 67 stingray vert (silver/red). Maybe 40k miles? It's all original and one owner (was father-in-law's car)

f0rge 05-31-2013 10:27 AM

I'm not really sure, a lot can happen in 3-5 years. If I was starting to look now I'd be looking at a used Boss or an NSX, maybe a CTS-V wagon. OR maybe 2 cars instead, FD RX7 garage queen and an e36 M3 track car/winter beater?

Per your Porsche maintenance questions, if you're buying the car you can likely afford to maintain it. You just have to plan ahead, make sure you have $2000-2500 on hand in case something goes wrong and for regular maintenance. My previous car was an E46 M3 and that is definitely on the high side of maintenance but if you plan for the major services and have a contingency for things that will inevitably break then you will enjoy the car and have a great couple of years with it.

It definitely worth paying a bit more up front for a car with great maintenance records and ones that have recent had recent major service done. If someone is anal enough to keep records and do $1500 worth of maintenance on a car they plan on selling then they've likely treated the car well over it's life and you shouldn't have too many problems down the road.

ALWAYS DO A PPI.

CSI:86 05-31-2013 10:32 AM

R36 GTR

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

:mad0260::mad0260::mad0260:

Tanuki 05-31-2013 12:00 PM

I am going to a used gtr or db9 next. Frs will be my commuter.

Sonolin 05-31-2013 01:04 PM

In all seriousness I've been eyeing the C5 & C6 Z06 corvettes. The cost for these cars (used) is fairly low right now and I'm hoping in the next year or so the cost will be even lower due to C7. This would be a great budget track monster.

I also like the thought of taking an ls1 camaro and making it a pure straight line drag strip car. Possibly built engine, and either nitrous, supercharger, or BOTH. I just don't know if its worth the money sink to do that sort of project :iono:

Tanuki 05-31-2013 01:10 PM

Oh I am being serious.

Sonolin 05-31-2013 01:32 PM

Sorry, I meant seriousness mostly replied to my original post on page ~1 or so. Not in reply to yours ;)

I think used gt-r is a great buy. I'd be worried about buying a used db9 but heck it'd be a steal for the amount of class/dollar. Good choices :)

Ahernandez0909 05-31-2013 02:51 PM

I hope to be able to get an 05 Elise

ST185RC 05-31-2013 04:52 PM

I can say this will be my first and last brand new car. My next car will most likely be an IS350/IS250 for commuting.

sho220 05-31-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 968019)
Yet you're still the troll in this conversation. Moving on.

Please stop being a moron. Whaap is about as far from a troll as a person on an internet forum can be.

Brzetto 05-31-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 973406)
Please stop being a moron. Whaap is about as far from a troll as a person on an internet forum can be.


Stop being Troll #2. Stay the fuck out of other people's conversations while you're at it.

Sonolin 05-31-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sho220 (Post 973406)
Please stop being a moron. Whaap is about as far from a troll as a person on an internet forum can be.

Agreed.

Sonolin 05-31-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 973448)
Stop being Troll #2. Stay the fuck out of other people's conversations while you're at it.

Your posting on a public internet forum, boo hoo.

Brzetto 05-31-2013 06:12 PM

He can have his friends help him out all he wants, he will still lose the argument. Btw I love the ignore function. :bellyroll:

BlueLeader 05-31-2013 06:24 PM

Gonna go luxury. BMW X5 or Lexus GS 350. Just cuz daddy wants to be mature

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jimmillion 05-31-2013 11:22 PM

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In all seriousness the car after the BRZ is going to be this VW Crosscoupe concept. I've seen this in person and it looks amazing.
Plus it's actually tiny. Those models do it justice, they are probably standing at 5'11' because I'm 6' and it was just under my shoulder.

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plus potentially 1.8L/100km which is INSANE! we're talking drive 7 hours to the cottage in the dead of summer and then back without every having to fill up.
By the time I have a family and need such a car I'll probably own a cottage/ski lodge to drive up to as well! :clap:

serialk11r 06-01-2013 04:52 AM

Damn, I just remembered that the Evora exists. You know, that car does make a pretty good poser car...if I get rid of the 2GR engine and replace it with a K20, that could drop 200lb off the car. Always wished I could get a Japanese (or at least half-Japanese) Porsche Cayman, mid-engine but a nice interior with no rattles.

Dark 06-01-2013 06:16 AM

Corvette Stingray C7. (I wish I had a FR-S)

sho220 06-01-2013 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 973448)
Stop being Troll #2. Stay the fuck out of other people's conversations while you're at it.

Didn't realize this was a private converstation...considering it's on an internet forum. You are truly a fucking idiot...

Turbowned 06-01-2013 08:54 AM

Depending on my income in 4-5 years, I plan to sell the BRZ and either buy a mid 1960's/early 1970's 911 coupe, or a 4-5yr-old Aston Martin. However I'm waiting to see what Fiat/Alfa produce in the next 5 years (4C for example), and the new Nissan Z, BMW 2 series coupe and Audi A3 sedan could be interesting as well.

Luis_GT 06-01-2013 10:22 AM

R34 GTR, will probably be more than 25yrs old by the time I would consider another car, so it should be relatively easy to import and register.

Brzetto 06-01-2013 06:18 PM

Can't see what sho220 said, for obvious reasons.

Enilder 06-01-2013 11:34 PM

Put aside about $2K/year for any potential repair through dealerships. I've owned it roughly over 7 years now and I probably spent $6~8K so far. This is including a set of tires. Maybe I am lucky but Porsche cars are solid IMO.

fatoni 06-02-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 975328)
Can't see what sho220 said, for obvious reasons.

why even bring that up other than to instigate?

i dont have an frs since im waiting to see what some of the initial track worthiness looks like. i dont need fast. i just need reliable and fun.

Brzetto 06-02-2013 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 975855)
why even bring that up other than to instigate?

i dont have an frs since im waiting to see what some of the initial track worthiness looks like. i dont need fast. i just need reliable and fun.

That's the first thing you've said that I've seen that didn't appear to be provocative/trolling. Perhaps you are correct I should have let him keep posting and he would have eventually wondered why I didn't respond, that would have been fun.:thumbsup: :clap:

fatoni 06-02-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 975858)
That's the first thing you've said that I've seen that didn't appear to be provocative/trolling. Perhaps you are correct I should have let him keep posting and he would have eventually wondered why I didn't respond, that would have been fun.:thumbsup: :clap:

a lot of people think im a troll and thats fine with me. there is a lot of delusion on this forum but there is also a significant core of people with experience that i value as a potential buyer and a huge fan. if you look closely i think you will see that i only criticize posts where the premise doesnt justify the conclusions. i dont attack people (well i think i can be a little harsh but not intentionally. im working on that) or their choices.

if im a troll its because i think that fwd isnt the end of the world, $1000 dollar coilovers are never the best bang for buck, lap times dont lie and the frs isnt the greatest car in the world.

i guess what im trying to say is that if you disagree with someone, provide reasoning to justify your counter argument. dont just call someone a troll while simultaneously egging them on.

PhastekSport 06-02-2013 02:04 AM

Just traded the FJ in for an 08 A6 4.2 (for the wife and baby), and now I have the Audi bug.

S4 or A6 3.0T Prestige would be nice (newer with LED headlights).

Of course a used C6 Corvette with LS3 would be easy for me to mod at my current place of employment.

370z Nismo came into consideration for a split second.

Even though I had these thoughts, after driving the FR-S this weekend, I realized I would be sacrificing a lot to go to any of those vehicles. Weight matters =).

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Brzetto 06-02-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 975912)
a lot of people think im a troll and thats fine with me. there is a lot of delusion on this forum but there is also a significant core of people with experience that i value as a potential buyer and a huge fan. if you look closely i think you will see that i only criticize posts where the premise doesnt justify the conclusions. i dont attack people (well i think i can be a little harsh but not intentionally. im working on that) or their choices.

if im a troll its because i think that fwd isnt the end of the world, $1000 dollar coilovers are never the best bang for buck, lap times dont lie and the frs isnt the greatest car in the world.

i guess what im trying to say is that if you disagree with someone, provide reasoning to justify your counter argument. dont just call someone a troll while simultaneously egging them on.

I was right though John Morgan's statement was flawed, at some point you have to know the price. The smart people with a lot of money ask and watch their finances very carefully, the showoffs don't care and end up broke. FWD isn't the end of the world but it's one massive step in that direction. It's already been proven that RWD can be just as efficient as FWD, therefore I don't see the need for there being mostly FWD cars.

fatoni 06-02-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 976265)
I was right though John Morgan's statement was flawed, at some point you have to know the price. The smart people with a lot of money ask and watch their finances very carefully, the showoffs don't care and end up broke. FWD isn't the end of the world but it's one massive step in that direction. It's already been proven that RWD can be just as efficient as FWD, therefore I don't see the need for there being mostly FWD cars.

i dont think the quote is far off. there is a difference between diligent research and casually asking some stranger on a forum for financial advice.

fwd is the most cost effective platform we know of. there is a very real reason there are so many of them floating around.

Quentin 06-02-2013 01:18 PM

I think the JP Morgan is pretty spot on. Someone that can easily afford a Porsche doesn't need to set aside $3000 a year for maintenance; they easily have that money available and it is a drop in the bucket in the scheme of their finances. Now, that person may choose to buy a used one because you don't get wealthy by pissing away money needlessly (especially if it is a toy), but they won't be trying to figure out if they can maintain or afford a used Porsche.

Note: there is a pretty well defined range of what mass produced cars cost to maintain yearly. It is pretty common sense that a newish Porsche is at the top of that range.

For me, it depends if my FR-S happens this winter. If it does, our next car will be whatever my wife wants. If it doesn't, an IS F sport will replace the leased Prius v Five in 3 years. 300h, 200t, or 350? Who knows. Depends what is out at the time.

nalc 06-02-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 976370)
I think the JP Morgan is pretty spot on. Someone that can easily afford a Porsche doesn't need to set aside $3000 a year for maintenance; they easily have that money available and it is a drop in the bucket in the scheme of their finances. Now, that person may choose to buy a used one because you don't get wealthy by pissing away money needlessly (especially if it is a toy), but they won't be trying to figure out if they can maintain or afford a used Porsche.

Note: there is a pretty well defined range of what mass produced cars cost to maintain yearly. It is pretty common sense that a newish Porsche is at the top of that range.

For me, it depends if my FR-S happens this winter. If it does, our next car will be whatever my wife wants. If it doesn't, an IS F sport will replace the leased Prius v Five in 3 years. 300h, 200t, or 350? Who knows. Depends what is out at the time.

I've always taken it to mean that if the price is such that it will determine whether or not you can't make ends meet, it's probably a bad idea to do it.

i.e. if $2k a year worth of maintenance will make or break you, you shouldn't get the car, because it's cutting it too close.

If it's just "I'd like a Porsche and know maintenance costs will be higher, but how much is that actually?", that's different than "I can put every spare penny into affording a Porsche, but how much is maintenance, I don't know if I can afford that too?"

Brzetto 06-02-2013 02:13 PM

The people have desired and toyobaru stepped up to the plate. Porsche may now sit in the geezer section. Most of the guys I see with Porsches are 50+, the last GT2 I saw was a bright red one with a guy who looked 70+, driving it. Everyone is different, some people would rather be the old fart with the Porsche and others would rather be young while having a really good sports car.

executivekoala 06-02-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D1cker (Post 967633)
V8. V10 is 06-10

I thought that run started from 04-12

TylerLieberman 06-02-2013 04:33 PM

New M3 Sedan looks like a sure winner. The M3 is the perfect car in my opinion. Always has been and probably always will be.

Books 06-02-2013 04:41 PM

Right now, I think I'd like something small. Hopefully another rwd coupe. So probably a z4, 370z, or some porsche. But times change, maybe I'll be looking at a SUV or a family man sedan.

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Spaceboy 06-02-2013 06:04 PM

this is what im getting in 5 years

http://www.unfinishedman.com/wp-cont...exus-IS250.jpg

Soclose09 06-02-2013 08:25 PM

Jaguar XF.. strictly business lol

chrisl 06-02-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brzetto (Post 976446)
The people have desired and toyobaru stepped up to the plate. Porsche may now sit in the geezer section. Most of the guys I see with Porsches are 50+, the last GT2 I saw was a bright red one with a guy who looked 70+, driving it. Everyone is different, some people would rather be the old fart with the Porsche and others would rather be young while having a really good sports car.

Well, sure, but what if you had the option of being young while having a Porsche (I'm 23)?
:burnrubber:


(Not that there's anything wrong with the BRZ/FR-S/86, mind you...)


That having been said, I agree with the posters above. Personally, the maintenance on a Porsche is within what I can afford relatively easily. However, if it weren't, I'd rather have a BRZ and no financial concerns/stress over a Porsche where I was always worrying about how I would pay the next service/maintenance bill.


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