:( I hope this car doesn't turn into the next civic/golf

^Rotas are really cheap

I'm with Andy. Stance, hellaflush, etc is beyond retarded in my opinion :shrug:

Hellaflush is retarded but there is nothing wrong with running flush wheels.

That word comes to mind when I hear "form>function".

IMO they are the ricers of our generation.

I somehow don't understands what is going on right now. I like that the stock wheels are 17" and not any bigger. The new Opel Astra for example runs 20" rims, has less than 200 PS and is a heavy boat. What I want for the FT-86 it to put some very light 17" rims, nothing to big or to small, so that ursprung weight will be reduced and and improve handling and performance. I'd look at some Volk, Advan or Enkei rims with Nitto, Toyo or Advan semi-sliks.
The ones I want most are THESE
The problem is they only are available in 18". I just hope they'll make a set for TOYOBARU specially.

Those are some delicious wheels Levi

Advan Racing TCIII isn't that light. iirc it weight around 17~19lbs... but I do gotta say, they look really nice

This.

And what about you, your partner, kids, parents or friends that are in the car hit by them when they crash due to having wheels that f**k up the cars ability to stop/turn?

Have you lost someone to an accident like this?

I had a friend who died because they were hit by someone who had done some stupid offset for looks and it screwed up the car!

What the factory offset this car comes with will be important if it comes with 5x100.
Will it be a high offset like most Subies? Or the stupid inbetween offset of +39 like the Celica was.

I wonder if you could prosecute said drivers for gross negligence if their improper modifications are ever the cause of a crash.

In a way, yes (UK based, so USA will be a certainty!)

BUT that doesn't get anyone back, or heal those who were injured!

If its for shows fair enough, but trailer the f**king car!

Your feeling are not unfounded, but those kinds of dangers are found in any car, among any driver, among any situation.

I lost a cousin who was killed by a stock evo driven by a 16 year old kid. Does that mean all 16 year old kids with fast cars will kill people? Does my experience suddenly change my perspective a little? I try not to get overly emotional and personal about similar situations. AKA im not going around telling every 16 year old kid with a fast car to stop driving, or calling cops on them. etc..

Low offset wheels themselves do not cause accidents, because they usually come in sizes which gives a very large contact patch. ie 18x11.5 0 offset is a big wide wheel, and for certain cars they give performance.

Its when you take that sort of wheel or any wheel for that matter and give yourself 30 degrees of negative camber and a 195-205/35 stretched tire with virtually no sidewall. That will bring driveable risks. Its also a combination of several things like that, that probably was cause of your friends death.

Iv seen many accidents and deaths under safe environments and running a low offset wheel isn't grounds for determining an unsafe environment.

Sorry for your loss but wtf are you talking about?

A properly set up Stanced vehicle can still perform as well as a vehicle with flush / sunk wheels.

I ran like this for a year and I could still corner and brake like a champ.
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^^ ugh.

I want 17's for the 86, and but....damn if those are only made in 18's I might have to suck it up an upgrade.

Engineers do their job to ensure that the wheels fitted on an unmodded body is "safe".

So if you put wheels on it and the wheels can clear the inner fender walls (without mod), then it means the wheel is "okay" to use.

So Near flush, or maybe 5-10mm under flush would be best suited.

Subaru is known to put BIG wide fender lips which require rolling to have any decent sized wheels, this is okay I think.

I do CRINGE when I see people have to "PULL" fenders out or put Cambers greater than suggested values.


You know your wheels are too fat if you have DEFORM the fenders to make them fit in.... and 10 degree cambers are silly.



Flush looks is fine, but if you have to PULL the fender and/or do ridiculous cambers.... your asking to damage your car's durability and performance.



With that said...
I expect them to come out with 17 x 7, 17 x 8 wheels as stock.

My general thumb of rule is +1~1.5 inch width is OKAY, and +1 inch DIAMETER is OKAY.

18 x 7.5, 18 x 9, would be excellent hehe.

And a bit disappointed with 100x5 PCD.....

114.3 is more tuner friendly, 100x5 PCDs are for tiny cars or econovans.... and yes I know WRXs and Legacys use this pattern, but they should all be same as STI now... which is 114.3.... so wheels can be used between cars easily.

Lol.

Those super lowered cars aren't reasonable. I've always asked why they liked that hellaflush look and their answer was.. "more aerodynamics!" You can't even go fast in that thing! LOL

So whenever I see one of them go up a drive way to a plaza or something and turn sideways to get on.. I just pull up my yaris and drive infront of them. Lol.. HELLASLOW.

If that were the case you could sue someone one who put on a k&n air filter on and caused the motor to have way more power than the driver could have controlled. Yes that is a rediculous example but you get my point.


Andy, sorry for your loss. But not meaning to sound like a **** can you please explain what went wrong on said car. A streched tire unbeaded? Driver unable to compinsate for wider tires or excessive offset while cornering? I'm just curious, if its just bringing up bad memories than just forget I asked.

The funny thing is, it wouldn't surprise me if someone has already tried to do this. LOL!

The SVX has 5x114.3

I must admit I dont really have a clue about wheel offsets etc.
I always kept the orginal rims that came on my cars lol.

I agree, I don't have a clue about offset's, I need to learn more about them.

Well if it's still 5X100 on production version, I'll be kind of happy. My present wheels on my Corolla ( C-ONE SA-90 ) is 5X100 and +33 offset... but they are 16"... It will make a nice set of track wheel :P

I would pref 5x114.3.

Will be interesting to see what they come up with

Considering Toyota's 5-lug wheels are 5x114.3, I'd be really surprised if this were different.

Since this is just a concept, wouldn't put much weight into its specs.

Considering Subaru's 5-lug wheels are 5x100, I'd be really surprised if this were different.

:laughabove:

So WTF, 5x114.3 or 5x100 ?

Toyota also has 5x100 bolt pattern in the celica, corolla and matrix.

I would prefer the 5x114.3. But if it's 5x100...that's fine too. I'm fine with whatever they put on there. The aftermarket will support this platform no matter what. They could put a 6 lug hub on it and the aftermarket would start making wheels to fit it.

I think we'll be alright either way.

http://mr2.com/MR2TechData.html

Bridge Stone Potenza RE 86 was on Toyota MR2 '84 model. Size was a lot smaller. The ones on showroom seems like that label 86 was tacked on AFTER the tire was produced.

The car is so light, just about any tire will work on them. My old 240SX had the same weight with less balance, and still didi well on cheap AVON 500 tires.

Not all of em :iono:

...but then aren't most of the Scions 5x100? :thumbdown:

Not certain what your statement means??

If you mean, the Subaru BRZ's are 5x100 then yes. I suppose that pretty much confirms that the FT is going to have the same bolt pattern.

If you mean, Subaru only makes cars with 5x100 pattern then you would be wrong.

Not to be rude or anything, but CE28N don't come in duel bolt patterns. Your set is either replicas or they are only 5x114.3. Real CE28N looks like it has two sets of holes, but the other holes are not used to mount on cars. They are there to make the wheels bolt on spacer friendly.


Anyways, it's going to suck if it's 5x100, like a lot of other people have said before, the good fitment wheel choices are limited. 5x100 wheels RARELY come in concave faces. Although i have seen some 17x9 +35 5x100 RPF1 on some Tc in forums, don't know if they are special group buy orders or they have that size available to purchase now. Nothing about that size on their website.

Agreed...though they made this thing with aftermarket in mind, Japanese companies are notorious for trying to control what you buy and may go with 5x100 to achieve just that. Then there's the majority of Subaru's with high offset setups with 5x100, the Celica also with 5x100, and the current Scions with 5x100 :brokenheart: It's not looking good for 5x114.3 :thumbdown:

There are hub conversion spacers out there, to convert to 5x114.3 but it's usually only 20mm and up...which starts pushing the wheels to extreme offsets..