Yeah, definitely low 20's without any extras. Bloated with every conceivable goody, under 29

That's what I'm hoping for. :happyanim:

Im guessing somewhere between 23k-25k if its Turbo and 20k-23k if its N/A

Whoa there aren't you jumping the gun there a bit lol

:confused0068::thanks: Please dont ever call it that horrid name ever again unless theres enough info to call it that.

Completely simpled out, bare trim ~18,000

Bloated with power goodies ~21,000


This is the "not high powered" version.


Wishful thinking, but more than possible.

I'm basing mine off some pretty simple finance math.

The market this car is aimed at is the youth market, 18-34 ish you could say.

Average income in the year range? 35-40k a year, I'd say. Thats a fair average.

Principal amount of loan: 20,000 18,000
~ Interest rate estimate: 10% 10%
60 month term 60
Payment: $424.94 $382.45

% of monthly income @35k a year
$424.94 - 14.57%
$382.45 - 13.13%

@40k a year
$424.94- 12.75%
$382.45 - 11.47%

Your car payment should never go above 15% of your monthly income (or good luck getting the loan).

You best believe Toyota is going under the premise that this car is going to be financed way more than bought straight up with cash.

/shrug, thats all completely guesstimating (interest rate, and yearly income of target market)

do your votes reflect what you are prepared to pay for it? assuming every ft-86 clubber is planning to own one.
or is it what you expect others with more dough to pay that amount for it?

I think most are just speculating/voting on the MSRP of the base version.

10% may be a bit too high for a new car unless you are young guy. Well depends on what down payment you put down as well.

I only do it because I know how much it angers some of you. I kid...it's all in good fun.:happy0180:

LOL, even though I agree w/ Shevon, & Danzilla

it was mainly to show that $20,000 itself is really pushing the limit as is. You could generalize a down payment/ trade in value average of ~4,000, but it doesn't shift the monthly payment downward very much. Thats why I think the base line model will be cheaper than most people think. If they go much higher than that then their target market can't really afford to buy their car.

Even if you calculate the downpayment, my estimated average yearly income (35k -40k) is a relatively fair assessment, probably well over the yearly income of most young enthusiasts.

Again, thats pricing estimates for the base model. I dont' expect the high powered version to be sub $25,000

I am glad there are members who are looking at this seriously.
I will add that:
1: I recall reading an article saying Toyota did not have Gen Y in mind with the creation of the vehicle (I'll have to find it again when I have time)

2:My extremely simple video on youtube, (which is essentially the gif image i posted that S2K uses atm,(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im5lkLqRlmU)) has had:
15.4K views in less than a month

~36% aged 45-54
~36% aged 35-44
~18% aged 25-34
~6% aged 18-24

90% male

55% US
15% japan
5% UK

& attention spikes at the pedals

What does that mean, nothing other than that is who is interested in my simple video. But I would wager to project that the market for the car is similar, and Toyota already spent a lot of money to discover this.

I think that's a fair guess. Just hoping that there'll actually be a turbo version to pick from.