Originally Posted by ultra (Post 276061)

Given the info that's slowly trickling out from people on this forum who have actually tracked their cars, why on earth are people still so quick to assume that coil overs will automatically improve anything at all, let alone everything? :mad0259:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere (Post 276089)

Because it's adjustable. Factory the car is set-up to not kill people, not be fastest around a track. Is it a great OEM set-up? for sure. Is it the best set-up for the car? Nope.

Originally Posted by ultra (Post 276102)

Sure, someday somebody will come out with a great set of coilovers that slash lap times and plant the car nicely (will probably involve offset bushings, camber bolts and top hats too by the looks of things).

Lots more R&D to be done before I'd consider spending any $$$ on coilovers in the name of better lap times though personally. Need to see what AST, RCE and Ohlins will come out with, never mind the serious stuff like Motons etc.

If we had somebody like Emilio from 949 racing selling custom valved and sprung Tein Monoflexes, or Robispec tuned KW V3s, that'd also change things.

Just not big on off the shelf, unproven coilers for the sake of it unless I see data.
:)

Originally Posted by fatoni (Post 275756)

hes been in that discussion before. while they arent my choice, i think asking for trouble is a little extreme.

you should have decided on a tire size and picked the widest rim to accomodate. if you wanted fast (which i recall not being the biggest issue with you) then the wider the better (within reason). if you want fun, my bet would be somewhere around 215s. i guess its too late anyways so just enjoy what you have

Originally Posted by ultra (Post 276061)

Given the info that's slowly trickling out from people on this forum who have actually tracked their cars, why on earth are people still so quick to assume that coil overs will automatically improve anything at all, let alone everything? :mad0259:

This isn't some Accord or TC. It's been extremely well up out of the box by all accounts I've read.

It will be tough to improve on and very easy to ruin if someone just throws parts at it.

Of course this is the Wheels, tires, brakes& suspension sub forum so some hellaflush is to be expected but this particular thread is about performance IIRC.

BTT - for competitive AutoX I'd favour maximizing the contact patch but for track duty I'd go for something that fits well even if it's thinner. I'd be more interested in getting a compound that's heat cycle friendly and not prone to overheating or getting greasy.

I can vouch for RE11s or AD08s on track but have no clue how the Kumhos perform.

;)

Originally Posted by Razz (Post 275821)

235x40x17 is what I would pick however 245x40x17 may be okay.

Tracking and feed back is scarce on this car now.

One thing to consider when buying tires is your coilovers.

use the KW V'3 and set the car low

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 277244)

please disregard such posts, do not consider coilovers until you find a need to corner balance your car, and most definitely do not set it to "low"

Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 277399)

Im not setting it low, prob just 1 inch maybe even less. Im taking it to soul speed to get it cornered balanced as soon as i install the KW'S. Soul speed is a suspension shop that sets up race cars for the track they know their stuff and they are close to me less than an hour drive.

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 277419)

have you ever bothered to race a stock car on good tires and brakes for a solid season?

Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 277434)

Sticky tires + good brakes will make this car roll. Ive tracked it twice since i got it and it rolls a bit on the stock tires the moment i go with stickier rubber its going to roll even more. Why wouldnt i upgrade the suspension? Ive already done 40+ laps trying to find out what needs upgrading, brakes are fine stock i would only change the fluid and lines they dont sponge up a lot even though i have been tracking it with outside temps over 100F.

Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 276955)

Thanks man, i went with both sizes 245 and 235 plus i have my stockers for fun!! This car is so much fun!!

I ordered federal rs-r with 140 tread wear and hankook rs3's!!





Because if you take a look at my videos on my youtube channel the car rolls a bit with factory rubber, once i get sticky tires its going to roll even more and that is when the factory suspension will not cut it any more. Im taking my car to soul speed next week to play with suspension settings ( they specialize in setting up cars for the track)

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 277450)

until you build an aero car you really don't need to worry about having it FLAT

Originally Posted by s2kdrew (Post 278936)

I had 235/40/17 all around on my S2000, since I don't like the performance on 245/40/17. 235 actually feel better for me on the track.

Beside if I want to spend the money on AD08, I would spend the same amount of money on A048. Since they are the same price, or go with hankook Z214, Kumho victor racer, Nitto NT-01. Better performance, cheaper price.