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8R6 04-14-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 2212460)
I haven't changed anything to the suspension other than the lowering springs. Everything else is stock. Perhaps where the shocks attach to the engine bay frame is broken?

-RyanG

that's the top hat. try raising the car with the tire off the ground and see if there's any movement on the spring/strut body while the car is being raised.

vroom4 04-14-2015 04:32 PM

Doubtful. More likely its just a loose bolt. Id go through the suspension and tighten everything.

brzaapi 04-14-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BRGT86 (Post 2212503)
that's the top hat. try raising the car with the tire off the ground and see if there's any movement on the spring/strut body while the car is being raised.



THIS - They wont move while the car is on the ground, but raise the car and check and that should at least let you know if that's the issue.

vividracing 04-14-2015 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brzaapi (Post 2212558)
THIS - They wont move while the car is on the ground, but raise the car and check and that should at least let you know if that's the issue.

I'll check it out and let you all know!

Koa 04-14-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brzaapi (Post 2212162)
I'd also suggest you check the 3 bolts/nuts on your struts where they connect to the body, inside the engine bay. When you changed out your springs and re-installed your struts, did you Loctite the 3 nuts that secure the top of the strut in the engine bay.


When your car is sitting still the strut will appear fine but hit a bump and literally your strut will be popping/slamming into the strut tower mount/body.


This may or may not be the problem.


But if the nuts are loose, secure them with blue Loctite.


Another side note I believe the nuts that secure the strut to the body/tower should be only tightened to around 20ft/lbs. I happen to know for a fact thatif you decide to tighten them a little tighter to say 30ft/lbs, you will shearer the bolt on the top plate of your strut.


I hope this helps.

that's not a fact but you are correct- they require very low ftlb

anecdotal =/= fact just friendly fyi :)

Celadrielas 04-14-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 2212300)
neither of these reasons are even remotely responsible for audible popping noises.

Excuse the hell out of me. :lol:since you offered so much, I'll rebuttle with a reply I was given from a toyota master mechanic.

"Ok, Commonly bushing, grommets, and gaskets are the cause though if you're using a fluid shock and not gas, over full / under full (Loss of fluid or improper rebuild) may cause a squeeking, creaking, or popping noise as well. If you did the suspension yourself and had to adjust the "bump guard" cutting it too short *WILL* make this noise though is it usually described as a clunking. In addition, poor alignment of sways, end links, and such depending on various year model and makes could cause such issues. It's be to attempt to isolate the sound best you can and from there check to see if you're suffering from any fluid loss from struts, packing / oil / grease loss from things such as CV boots, and check the sway bar to see if you see any impact points. Hope it helps."

brzaapi 04-14-2015 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Koa (Post 2212619)
that's not a fact but you are correct- they require very low ftlb

anecdotal =/= fact just friendly fyi :)




Ahh Semantics. Well, what I can say for sure is (in a friendly tone) is that when I reinstalled mine, with my torque wrench set to 30ft/lbs. The damn bolt sheared. It sucked and I had to wait for the parts.


So yes, I would check your service manual or reliable source. But I personally would not approach 30ft/lbs.


I know that Ohlin specifically mentions 18ft/lbs for their Road and Track coilovers.


That's it though, that's all my knowledge. I hope you find the problem.

7thgear 04-14-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Celadrielas (Post 2212624)
Excuse the hell out of me. :lol:since you offered so much, I'll rebuttle with a reply I was given from a toyota master mechanic.

"Ok, Commonly bushing, grommets, and gaskets are the cause though if you're using a fluid shock and not gas, over full / under full (Loss of fluid or improper rebuild) may cause a squeeking, creaking, or popping noise as well. If you did the suspension yourself and had to adjust the "bump guard" cutting it too short *WILL* make this noise though is it usually described as a clunking. In addition, poor alignment of sways, end links, and such depending on various year model and makes could cause such issues. It's be to attempt to isolate the sound best you can and from there check to see if you're suffering from any fluid loss from struts, packing / oil / grease loss from things such as CV boots, and check the sway bar to see if you see any impact points. Hope it helps."



a spring compressing or a piece of rubber compressing will not make a "popping" noise, which is more likely a binding somewhere, an over or under tightened bolt or interference.

a spring will only force a pop if it was seated incorrectly, the spring itself is not going to pop

a bumpstop is certainly not going to be making any noises




I don't know what your master mechanic is trying to say, but his answer is rather broad. Why is he talking about rebuilt shocks?

AreteAuto 04-14-2015 07:41 PM

I got my car back from a shop once, heard a funny noise from the front. I took off my front left wheel and found out one of the bolts to the strut was VERY loose. I sat back in disbelief for about a minute...then proceeded to check every bolt on the car that they had contact with. I found another one that was stripped and loose. Scared the hell out of me.:(
Yeah, so definitely do your rounds of investigation before driving a whole lot...

cdrazic93 04-14-2015 08:45 PM

I didn't know a Toyota master mechanic was an expert in fluid dynamics and a shock engineer on the side.

Takumi788 04-14-2015 10:03 PM

My clunk ended up being that I was missing a caliper slide bolt and the other was loose. Check those out.

cdrazic93 04-15-2015 01:23 AM

Totally OT, but whenever I scroll through suspension sub thread, popping was not the first thing that I thought this thread said lol.


Improper spring perch, some nuts might not be torqued properly (this however presents itself as a clunk rather than a pop). The first thing that comes to mind when I hear the sound of a pop is a binding of some sort.

mav1178 04-15-2015 03:21 AM

If it is a popping noise, something is loose.

If it is a pinging noise, your spring is moving around.

-alex

Hyper4mance2k 04-15-2015 03:29 PM

Also I had a popping noise and it ended up being a failed rear axle nut. It was still torqued to spec, but when it was punched it just warped too much and it allowed some movement. Raise the car up, losen enverthing, put the vehicle on its full weight, then tighten everything to spec. If you torque without weight on the suspension you will get a binding pop from bushings, etc.
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