How are you logging at the track? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

yomny · 04-05-2015, 11:16 AM

How do you get your engine's feedback at the track? I'm mainly asking how to get you logs from ecutek or any obd2 source that gets all engine parameters at the track since having a laptop on the passenger seat is out of the question. Software based is my interest, i don't have to have guages everywhere since this isn't a track car but would see the track once in a while and would like to make sure things are ok. Thanks

jvincent · 04-05-2015, 11:20 AM

I use the Harry's Lap Timer app on my phone and bluetooth OBDII reader.

The only useful measurement it doesn't give is oil pressure.

The nice thing about HLT is that you can record video on the phone and overlay the readings (RPM, speed, gear, etc) onto the video. It also provides graphs / data overlay on the track map.

I just bought an external GPS unit since the phone GPS only samples at 1Hz but with the external I can get 5Hz or 10Hz.

HLT is $20 on Android for the most advanced version.

Edit: If all you want are gauges and data logging, the Torque app will do that as well.

yomny · 04-05-2015, 03:29 PM

Thanks man I have Harry's lap timer and it's pretty cool. I was more interested not in telemetry but actual engine parameters. Coolant, oil temp, boost, fuel trims, afr, knock...

jvincent · 04-05-2015, 03:34 PM

I think Torque will give you all of those.

yomny · 04-05-2015, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jvincent

I think Torque will give you all of those.

Yeah I'm looking into a similar app. Just trapped one of those elm wifi obd2 transmitter to read with an iPhone app.

dp1 · 04-05-2015, 04:29 PM

OBDLink MX adapters are good (http://www.obdlink.com). I use the WiFi MX with iPhone, DashCommand for diagnostics, Harry's Laptimer for track/ax, external bluetooth GPS (Dual 150A)

xwd · 04-05-2015, 07:02 PM

The OBDLink MX is the best BT reader I've used.

Since I have Ecutek I have a small Windows tablet (Venue 8 Pro) I use to datalog engine parameters sometimes, but it requires a cable. Hard to beat the data you get and the resolution though. Using an external input I have it logging wideband AFR also, but no way to log oil pressure.

I believe the OFT box can record most parameters as well now.

yomny · 04-05-2015, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx

The OBDLink MX is the best BT reader I've used.

Since I have Ecutek I have a small Windows tablet (Venue 8 Pro) I use to datalog engine parameters sometimes, but it requires a cable. Hard to beat the data you get and the resolution though. Using an external input I have it logging wideband AFR also, but no way to log oil pressure.

I believe the OFT box can record most parameters as well now.

Yeah I figured it'll be hard to log afr, oil pressure and even knock since these aren't things the obd2 reports, that I know unless using a more advanced software like ecutek. I guess it'll do to keep an eye on temps. Even though oft and ecutek could be used it'll be a tad uncomfortable, possibly risky having those longer obd2 connectors under the dash at a track drive.

PS-thanks for your feedback.

ddeflyer · 04-06-2015, 12:48 AM

Pretty sure the engine doesn't know the oil pressure, only that there is pressure or not.

yomny · 04-06-2015, 06:49 AM

Yeah oil pressure isn't measured or at least is not displayed. Maybe he meant temp since oil pressure was never mentioned before in this thread.

mav1178 · 04-06-2015, 12:40 PM

Aim Solo DL.

Datalogging, plus I set up the display to show real-time lap times (plus delta to lowest session time).

But in all honesty, I don't need to see all the parameters at the track. Aside from temps, the other stuff is useless unless you have a horrible tune.

-alex

yomny · 04-06-2015, 01:01 PM

Yeah that is true I was just wondering if there was a way without having to need someone next to you holding your laptop to get a good log. So aim solo gives you temps? Thanks

GotMunchies? · 04-06-2015, 02:06 PM

For those using their phones to log data, what mounts are you using to keep them from flying about the cabin?

ddeflyer · 04-06-2015, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yomny

Yeah that is true I was just wondering if there was a way without having to need someone next to you holding your laptop to get a good log. So aim solo gives you temps? Thanks

Most of the OBDII apps give you temps.

Aim Solo DL talks can bus so it gets the data faster and also pulls some nice stuff like accelerometer data and brake pressure.

04-05-2015, 11:16 AM	#1
yomny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: MIA Posts: 1,545 Thanks: 557 Thanked 469 Times in 340 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	How are you logging at the track? How do you get your engine's feedback at the track? I'm mainly asking how to get you logs from ecutek or any obd2 source that gets all engine parameters at the track since having a laptop on the passenger seat is out of the question. Software based is my interest, i don't have to have guages everywhere since this isn't a track car but would see the track once in a while and would like to make sure things are ok. Thanks __________________ GTX2867R, moto-tuned , tomei op , motiv fp , Invidia Q300 ti , Rota titan 17x9 +42 , nt555 255/40 , ST coilovers w/cascam , Hotchkis sways Last edited by yomny; 04-05-2015 at 03:28 PM.

04-05-2015, 11:20 AM	#2
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I use the Harry's Lap Timer app on my phone and bluetooth OBDII reader. The only useful measurement it doesn't give is oil pressure. The nice thing about HLT is that you can record video on the phone and overlay the readings (RPM, speed, gear, etc) onto the video. It also provides graphs / data overlay on the track map. I just bought an external GPS unit since the phone GPS only samples at 1Hz but with the external I can get 5Hz or 10Hz. HLT is $20 on Android for the most advanced version. Edit: If all you want are gauges and data logging, the Torque app will do that as well. Last edited by jvincent; 04-05-2015 at 11:58 AM.

04-05-2015, 03:29 PM	#3
yomny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: MIA Posts: 1,545 Thanks: 557 Thanked 469 Times in 340 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Thanks man I have Harry's lap timer and it's pretty cool. I was more interested not in telemetry but actual engine parameters. Coolant, oil temp, boost, fuel trims, afr, knock... __________________ GTX2867R, moto-tuned , tomei op , motiv fp , Invidia Q300 ti , Rota titan 17x9 +42 , nt555 255/40 , ST coilovers w/cascam , Hotchkis sways

04-06-2015, 12:48 AM	#9
ddeflyer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: CA Posts: 564 Thanks: 99 Thanked 284 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pretty sure the engine doesn't know the oil pressure, only that there is pressure or not. __________________ Fun car leads to autocross, autocross leads to track days, track days lead to lemons, lemons leads to racing school, racing school leads to spec Miata... No idea where it leads next!

04-06-2015, 06:49 AM	#10
yomny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: MIA Posts: 1,545 Thanks: 557 Thanked 469 Times in 340 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Yeah oil pressure isn't measured or at least is not displayed. Maybe he meant temp since oil pressure was never mentioned before in this thread. __________________ GTX2867R, moto-tuned , tomei op , motiv fp , Invidia Q300 ti , Rota titan 17x9 +42 , nt555 255/40 , ST coilovers w/cascam , Hotchkis sways

04-05-2015, 03:34 PM	#4
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I think Torque will give you all of those.

04-05-2015, 04:29 PM	#6
dp1 driving smoother faster Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Sold Location: Some Posts: 990 Thanks: 630 Thanked 471 Times in 286 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OBDLink MX adapters are good (http://www.obdlink.com). I use the WiFi MX with iPhone, DashCommand for diagnostics, Harry's Laptimer for track/ax, external bluetooth GPS (Dual 150A)

04-05-2015, 07:02 PM	#7
xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 860 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The OBDLink MX is the best BT reader I've used. Since I have Ecutek I have a small Windows tablet (Venue 8 Pro) I use to datalog engine parameters sometimes, but it requires a cable. Hard to beat the data you get and the resolution though. Using an external input I have it logging wideband AFR also, but no way to log oil pressure. I believe the OFT box can record most parameters as well now.

04-06-2015, 12:40 PM	#11
mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Aim Solo DL. Datalogging, plus I set up the display to show real-time lap times (plus delta to lowest session time). But in all honesty, I don't need to see all the parameters at the track. Aside from temps, the other stuff is useless unless you have a horrible tune. -alex

04-06-2015, 01:01 PM	#12
yomny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Whiteout Location: MIA Posts: 1,545 Thanks: 557 Thanked 469 Times in 340 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Yeah that is true I was just wondering if there was a way without having to need someone next to you holding your laptop to get a good log. So aim solo gives you temps? Thanks __________________ GTX2867R, moto-tuned , tomei op , motiv fp , Invidia Q300 ti , Rota titan 17x9 +42 , nt555 255/40 , ST coilovers w/cascam , Hotchkis sways

04-06-2015, 02:06 PM	#13
GotMunchies? Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: '14 WRB BRZ 6MT Limited Location: United States Posts: 105 Thanks: 4 Thanked 75 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For those using their phones to log data, what mounts are you using to keep them from flying about the cabin?

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