So any hope of a TRD Supercharger?

[CallmeDave]

I haven't been following the rumors just hoping for a reliably supercharger kit like what TRD has done in the past, figured I'd ask.

So any news/luck/rumor's about TRD making a supercharger for our cars?

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by CallmeDave

I haven't been following the rumors just hoping for a reliably supercharger kit like what TRD has done in the past, figured I'd ask.

So any news/luck/rumor's about TRD making a supercharger for our cars?

There is one but its only available for sponsored race teams, and you have to buy them in bulks of two...... at 26,000 a pop, meaning to get your hands on one youd have to spend $52,000

[ProjectGT86]

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-cost-26k.html

sometimes toyota can be real assholes

[woode]

That is absolutely ridiculous..


Out of curiosity, how much power are these things making?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by woode

That is absolutely ridiculous..

Out of curiosity, how much power are these things making?

Not enough.

[stugray]

When I bought my 99 Solara, there was a TRD SC offered by the dealer.

They even said they would install it and it did not void the warranty - as long as you do not change the SC pulley.

Too bad they are wussies now....

[protpibe]

Originally Posted by stugray

When I bought my 99 Solara, there was a TRD SC offered by the dealer.

They even said they would install it and it did not void the warranty - as long as you do not change the SC pulley.

Too bad they are wussies now....

It's a lot easier to make a Supercharger for an engine that is used in a variety of models than it is to make a supercharger for a very low volume vehicle whose target market tends to "talk" more than "do".

Toyota Superchargers are typically a 2 part setup. 1 for the engine specific blower, and the 2nd for a vehicle specific mounting kit. The FA20 is obviously unique to the 86, so the entire setup would have to be a one off. I'm actually really surprised they didn't just re-brand the Sprintex/Cusco as a TRD.

The 86 platform isn't living up to sales expectations globally, so it's hard to fault Toyota for not mass producing a supercharger just because it's cool.

[husker741]

Originally Posted by protpibe

The 86 platform isn't living up to sales expectations globally, so it's hard to fault Toyota for not mass producing a supercharger just because it's cool.

Misinformed, you are.

[protpibe]

In what regard?

Google "GT86 Poor Sales"

[husker741]

Originally Posted by protpibe

In what regard?

Google "GT86 Poor Sales"

Ah yes, because what you read on the internet is always true. Is 100k 86's on the road because of poor sales? Just because a few states in the US haven't sold well does not mean this car isn't selling. Those articles were bullshit. There were multiple threads explaining so.

[protpibe]

Originally Posted by husker741

Ah yes, because what you read on the internet is always true. Is 100k 86's on the road because of poor sales? Just because a few states in the US haven't sold well does not mean this car isn't selling. Those articles were bullshit. There were multiple threads explaining so.

I don't think we're talking about the same articles. Here's an example of one that I was referencing.

A senior Toyota official has revealed that poor sales of the GT 86 sports car meant that additional variants, such as the much-hyped convertible and a possible performance version, are likely to be ruled out.

Speaking with Auto Express, Toyota’s European R&D boss Gerald Killmann said the GT 86 was behind sales targets in all major markets, meaning the American-market Scion FR-S as well, and that this has created doubts towards developing further variants of the car.

"A faster version of that car would be at the top of most people's wish lists, but like the cabriolet, it is hard to justify a business case to push either model into production based on the current sales," Killmann said.

Killmann went on to explain that Toyota was unsure why the car wasn’t selling well, especially because most reviews have been quite positive (you can read our first drive report here).

There have been plenty of rumors pertaining to additional variants for the GT 86 and its FR-S twin. They include the aforementioned convertible, a new hybrid model and even a sedan. Sadly, it sounds like none of these will be coming.

My interpretation is that it mainly applies to "global" sales. Typically when a manufacturer gauges the success of a model, they look at things other than just actual sales volume. Although actual volume is an important stat, they also focus very heavily on % of marketshare and "days supply" in inventory and pipelines. Right now there are 13's sitting on the lot next to 14's. That's not a good scenario at all which is compounded by the fact that this car had a huge amount of hype, positive reviews, and 13 was the first year of it's life cycle. If I had a hyped product that had awesome reviews but was left with excess inventory at the end of the year, I would for sure question the bridge between people who said they would buy vs those that actually did. Although I'm a huge enthusiast and love my twin, I have to wonder if the BRZ/FR-S is kind of like an answer to a question that the BUYING market never asked.

Now when you take all of that sales info, in my opinion, it's not hard to figure out why the Toyota mothership won't green light a supercharger. Why build a $10,000 accessory if we're having a hard time selling an ENTIRE CAR for $25,000? I'm actually still shocked that they released the BBK, but that's another matter.

Anyways, those are all just my own personal opinions that aren't based on much. Feel free to disagree or discuss

[ProjectGT86]

Originally Posted by protpibe

I don't think we're talking about the same articles. Here's an example of one that I was referencing.



My interpretation is that it mainly applies to "global" sales. Typically when a manufacturer gauges the success of a model, they look at things other than just actual sales volume. Although actual volume is an important stat, they also focus very heavily on % of marketshare and "days supply" in inventory and pipelines. Right now there are 13's sitting on the lot next to 14's. That's not a good scenario at all which is compounded by the fact that this car had a huge amount of hype, positive reviews, and 13 was the first year of it's life cycle. If I had a hyped product that had awesome reviews but was left with excess inventory at the end of the year, I would for sure question the bridge between people who said they would buy vs those that actually did. Although I'm a huge enthusiast and love my twin, I have to wonder if the BRZ/FR-S is kind of like an answer to a question that the BUYING market never asked.

Now when you take all of that sales info, in my opinion, it's not hard to figure out why the Toyota mothership won't green light a supercharger. Why build a $10,000 accessory if we're having a hard time selling an ENTIRE CAR for $25,000? I'm actually still shocked that they released the BBK, but that's another matter.

Anyways, those are all just my own personal opinions that aren't based on much. Feel free to disagree or discuss

The sales have never been poor, it's just they didn't meet their target sales in certain markets, trust me the 86 is doing just fine, they've sold a lot... And I mean a lot

[Packofcrows]

Hi. I'm battle rezzing this topic. (WoW reference hahaha)

Why is the TRD S/C so pricy? Thats ret@rded. Full blown!!!

I called Scion down in SoCal and they were in lunch. ;(

[protpibe]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

Hi. I'm battle rezzing this topic. (WoW reference hahaha)

Why is the TRD S/C so pricy? Thats ret@rded. Full blown!!!

I called Scion down in SoCal and they were in lunch. ;(

Toyota discontinued their TRD supercharger line a few months ago