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Old 04-02-2010, 09:36 AM   #1
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Post May 2010 Car&Driver issue FT-86 article - "25 Cars Worth Waiting For"

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What other cars were on the list? The baby Boxster sounds interesting to me.
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"Following the launch of the natually aspirated version, a turbo engine with about 230 ponies..."

A N/A and a Turbo version would make this car a sweeter deal! I really hope they release both.
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what does that scatter plot indicate? what are the axes? can you scan the whole article? thanks!

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On the Front Cover it says, "Toyota FT86, Intended Acceleration", wasn't that a comment that a forum member once said on this forum? If it is then either the author copied the forum member, or the forum member copied the author somehow, or maybe they are both original thinkers. Either way, I suppose it was funny to read the second time.
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I would say original thinkers
All these jokes about Toyotas lately are just like their cars... they need to stop...
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Allumuim Body pannels????

Can any one comfirm this?
If not some one go to the next show its on display and see if a magnect sticks lol.
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Allumuim Body pannels????
It could happen, I have seen it on other cars. My WRX wagon has and from what I know all 02-07 WRX and STi have aluminized hoods, where as the RS/i/OBS imprezas have steel. I do not know about 08+hoods. Also I think 04-07 WRX and STi sedans have aluminized front fenders as well
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Someone care to explain what that cross graph in the center with all the dots represent?
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Someone care to explain what that cross graph in the center with all the dots represent?
It's a graphical representation of how exciting the car is and how much it will cost you.

The vertical axis has the words "Insane" at the top and "Tame" at the bottom. The horizontal axis has the words "Detroit Bonus" on the far left edge and "Wall-Street Bonus" at the far right.

The FT-86 rates near the top of the insane level of the fun quotient but closer to the detroit bonus level on cost. The only cars more "insane" are the BMW M5, Baby boxster, camaro convertible, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG convertible, Jaguar XE, and the Ferrari 458. Pretty good company for the FT-86.

The Ferrari 458 Italia Spyder is completely off the chart by the way...
And don't be confused by that second line coming from the Hyundai velositer box it actually goes underneath that box to one about the Jaguar XE. The hyundai is not more expensive or more "insane" than the FT-86, lol.
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I'm really glad to see automakers focus on the ridiculous weight that has been an issue over the past 20 years. It's not just toyota, porsche looks like they are trying to bring back sensible weight too.
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It's a graphical representation of how exciting the car is and how much it will cost you.

The vertical axis has the words "Insane" at the top and "Tame" at the bottom. The horizontal axis has the words "Detroit Bonus" on the far left edge and "Wall-Street Bonus" at the far right.

The FT-86 rates near the top of the insane level of the fun quotient but closer to the detroit bonus level on cost. The only cars more "insane" are the BMW M5, Baby boxster, camaro convertible, Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG convertible, Jaguar XE, and the Ferrari 458. Pretty good company for the FT-86.

The Ferrari 458 Italia Spyder is completely off the chart by the way...
And don't be confused by that second line coming from the Hyundai velositer box it actually goes underneath that box to one about the Jaguar XE. The hyundai is not more expensive or more "insane" than the FT-86, lol.
so it wasn't good enough when i asked what it meant???? j/k, lol. thanks for the explanation! makes a lot more sense now.

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It could happen, I have seen it on other cars. My WRX wagon has and from what I know all 02-07 WRX and STi have aluminized hoods, where as the RS/i/OBS imprezas have steel. I do not know about 08+hoods. Also I think 04-07 WRX and STi sedans have aluminized front fenders as well
The RX-8 has a bunch of aluminum body panels. Great for lightness but a royal PITA if you ever want to get some dents/dings removed.

Don't get me wrong, I still prefer aluminum for lightness I do not intend to park my 86 anywhere near the fronts of store parking lots.
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so it wasn't good enough when i asked what it meant???? j/k, lol. thanks for the explanation! makes a lot more sense now.

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Sorry about that bro. I was drinking and probably just skimmed right past your post. I'll try to pay attention more next time. :happy0180:
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Well I just thought if they used aluminum body panels it would put the price up...

If they were to be alloy I mite go out take off the paint and polish it lol
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C&D thinks Lex will be paypalling me 5 bucks too

Although, those retards also think the Celica was shitcanned back in 2003...
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"Following the launch of the natually aspirated version, a turbo engine with about 230 ponies..."

A N/A and a Turbo version would make this car a sweeter deal! I really hope they release both.

x2!

The turbo'd HP numbers don't sound too bad either, as long as that weight really is kept down (which I think we are all hopeful it is).
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at least 270 for the turbo version or no deal.
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at least 270 for the turbo version or no deal.
Agree. It should be at least 270hp in the turbo version. I hope for 300-ish for turbo one, but well, just give a 200+ on NA....
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Agree. It should be at least 270hp in the turbo version. I hope for 300-ish for turbo one, but well, just give a 200+ on NA....
Hate to disagree, but the more ponies, the more $ you gotta pay. As long as the engine's strong enough, with the 230hp you can achieve near 350hp with bolt ons.
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a 120hp increase with bolt-ons only?
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at least 270 for the turbo version or no deal.

Really? with a car as light as the FT's going to be, I think 250hp will be more than enough. Then with an intake and exhaust and a cat delete, you could probably add 70-80 more hp no?
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