Xenon and/or LED DRL?

[Z_Rocks]

I'm still confused. Does anyone know for sure if the US version of either car would come with Xenon/LED as an option? I've had Xenon for the past 10 years, I'm not going back to regular light even though it has projection lens.

No bashing, if you don't have an answer, just let it go...
Thanks!

[Jeff Lange]

I don't think it will, no models shown have had HID's or LED DRL's for North America. Especially as a Scion I don't see it happening.

If you want those features, the Subaru may be a better option? Adding the factory setup after the fact will be quite expensive. Doing an HID conversion will be cheaper, but not nearly as ideal (or legal -- though that doesn't stop most people).

Jeff

[HyperTech]

we never know with scion, they have all sort of "upgrade" for expensive ammount.

for me, less gadgets is less expensive to repair.

[Jeff Lange]

Typically Scions leave the factory mono-spec and the rest of the options are done at port, or at the dealer before you pick up the car. It's the easiest way to personalize the car without having to do factory orders.

Unfortunately HID's are relatively involved to do port/dealer installed, as HID's have an auto-leveling system which involves F/R ride height sensors, motors for the headlights, and a computer to control it all (usually with a Yaw rate sensor or input from the VSC/VDIM system).

It's not cheap to add a complete factory-type HID system to a car that doesn't have it.

Jeff

[blacknbean]

the brz has xenons/hids. i doubt it will even be an option for the scion, but you can always buy the jdm parts.

[Jeff Lange]

Originally Posted by blacknbean

the brz has xenons/hids. i doubt it will even be an option for the scion, but you can always buy the jdm parts.

I would avoid the Japan-spec ones as they will likely have the beam pattern set up for a RHD scenario. (Unless it's completely flat, which it might be). I'd go for a European LHD factory setup if anything.

Jeff

[Zaku]

Sure hope we can get those headlights from Europe, if you get the Japanese ones they'll probably blind people. There's always an aftermarket, I'm waiting to see if they'll have good quality black housing ones out.

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

I would avoid the Japan-spec ones as they will likely have the beam pattern set up for a RHD scenario. (Unless it's completely flat, which it might be). I'd go for a European LHD factory setup if anything.

Jeff

This is going to be everyone's best bet.

It is so hard to say how SCION is going to spec it out but they do make money from "add-ons" this was a huge selling point for the brand when it was launch albeit offering cheap ichiban knobs etc... isn't what everyone is looking for but it seemed to work

[Longhorn248]

From what I've read the BRZ is supposed to have HID and LED lights. If not they'll be getting a retrofit on mine.

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

Typically Scions leave the factory mono-spec and the rest of the options are done at port, or at the dealer before you pick up the car. It's the easiest way to personalize the car without having to do factory orders.

Unfortunately HID's are relatively involved to do port/dealer installed, as HID's have an auto-leveling system which involves F/R ride height sensors, motors for the headlights, and a computer to control it all (usually with a Yaw rate sensor or input from the VSC/VDIM system).

It's not cheap to add a complete factory-type HID system to a car that doesn't have it.

Jeff

Jeff, your point covers all my points about self installing HIDs. I had done it before and will not go through the None-OEM again and that's why I'm hoping either BRZ or FRS would offer it directly from the factory.

I don't consider good lighting as Gadget but more of a necessity. So much problems can be avoided when you see a longer ranger (especially when driving fast at night)

[Sport-Tech]

Very interesting, thanks for the post.

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

Typically Scions leave the factory mono-spec and the rest of the options are done at port, or at the dealer before you pick up the car. It's the easiest way to personalize the car without having to do factory orders.

Unfortunately HID's are relatively involved to do port/dealer installed, as HID's have an auto-leveling system which involves F/R ride height sensors, motors for the headlights, and a computer to control it all (usually with a Yaw rate sensor or input from the VSC/VDIM system).

It's not cheap to add a complete factory-type HID system to a car that doesn't have it.

Jeff

[Longhorn248]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

Typically Scions leave the factory mono-spec and the rest of the options are done at port, or at the dealer before you pick up the car. It's the easiest way to personalize the car without having to do factory orders.

Unfortunately HID's are relatively involved to do port/dealer installed, as HID's have an auto-leveling system which involves F/R ride height sensors, motors for the headlights, and a computer to control it all (usually with a Yaw rate sensor or input from the VSC/VDIM system).

It's not cheap to add a complete factory-type HID system to a car that doesn't have it.

Jeff

Not all HID systems have self adjusting systems complete with motors and sensors.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

Not all HID systems have self adjusting systems complete with motors and sensors.

Your right my 350z has factory hids and they are not auto leveling.

But I think most of the new Toyota hid setups found mostly in the Lexus models are auto leveling. They probably just used the same system that is in the new GS350 in the 86 and BRZ. Subaru has hids standard on the wrx limited and both Sti models. They could be using that kind of setup in the BRZ.

You got to admit the BRZ headlights are totally awesome..with the u shaped led halo accent.

[Z_Rocks]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

You got to admit the BRZ headlights are totally awesome..with the u shaped led halo accent.

That's what I want...