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RedRocket · 10-23-2012, 10:16 PM

I'm eyeballing a few supercharger/turbo options, Exhaust, Tune, which would put me around 300 HP, +/- 25HP.

This will put me in a position to require a upgraded clutch... What are the better options for clutch on Boxer's, and other then being able to handle the more power what do these performance clutches feel like when compared to a stock..

usptwins · 10-23-2012, 10:21 PM

As far as i have seen, there is a "ONE-OFF" Exedy clutch that AP is using. And there are several stages of the Clutch Masters. The more clamping force, the more TQ it will hold and with that, it means faster and harder engagement.

Pete · 10-23-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

I'm eyeballing a few supercharger/turbo options, Exhaust, Tune, which would put me around 300 HP, +/- 25HP.

This will put me in a position to require a upgraded clutch... What are the better options for clutch on Boxer's, and other then being able to handle the more power what do these performance clutches feel like when compared to a stock..

I had the same question, once I settle on a FI solution. (IE after SEMA)

gmookher · 10-23-2012, 10:52 PM

fx300/400?

kmbkk · 10-23-2012, 11:13 PM

Personally I like Spec clutches.

Sportsguy83 · 10-23-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kmbkk

Personally I like Spec clutches.

Why? (genuinely asking)

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subatoy · 10-23-2012, 11:29 PM

I hate staged kits! the clutch pedal gets really hard and it's a pain to drive smoothly or comfy. I seriously had a bigger left leg than my right left after my WRX.

kmbkk · 10-23-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83

Why? (genuinely asking)

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I had one put in my GSX and it worked really well. It had a good feel and engagement. I also put and ACT street disc setup in my EVO. It was harder to shift and work than stock. Of the two brands I like the Spec better.

FreshFRS · 10-23-2012, 11:37 PM

Emailed Across/carbonetic. they should have a carbon blade clutch out for sale in the new year. email said it should be able to hold about 300-350lb/ft using their pressure plate. but thats all i got from them.

here is to hoping that ACT has a Pro-Lite Flywheel at SEMA. 9lbs would be about perfect on this car i think.

usptwins · 10-23-2012, 11:41 PM

Damn, someone definately needs to send them links and dyno vids/sheets of all these turbo/sc kits making more than that and still pushing on stock internals...... Cereal guys....

FreshFRS · 10-23-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by usptwins

Damn, someone definately needs to send them links and dyno vids/sheets of all these turbo/sc kits making more than that and still pushing on stock internals...... Cereal guys....

rememeber thats just the blade. they didn't give me anything when i asked about a twin-plate. so i'm betting its in the works.

usptwins · 10-23-2012, 11:51 PM

or just a full on race spec. Something that can handle over 500wtq... then we would all be safe with one of those

FreshFRS · 10-24-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by usptwins

or just a full on race spec. Something that can handle over 500wtq... then we would all be safe with one of those

Le86 · 10-24-2012, 12:40 AM

As far as staged kits, you also need to look at sprung or unsprung. Sprung clutches will generally have a similar pedal feel as far as softness/stiffness goes, although engagement may still be harsh/soft depending on which stage you go with. I had a spec stage 3, 6-puck sprung clutch in my 240 and the pedal felt soft, almost like an OEM clutch, however the engagement was incredibly harsh. No room to ride the clutch at all, it was either in or out, no in between.

10-23-2012, 10:16 PM	#1
RedRocket Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Firestorm Red FR-S Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 271 Thanks: 5 Thanked 120 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Clutch.. I'm eyeballing a few supercharger/turbo options, Exhaust, Tune, which would put me around 300 HP, +/- 25HP. This will put me in a position to require a upgraded clutch... What are the better options for clutch on Boxer's, and other then being able to handle the more power what do these performance clutches feel like when compared to a stock..

10-23-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As far as i have seen, there is a "ONE-OFF" Exedy clutch that AP is using. And there are several stages of the Clutch Masters. The more clamping force, the more TQ it will hold and with that, it means faster and harder engagement. __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

10-23-2012, 11:41 PM	#10
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Damn, someone definately needs to send them links and dyno vids/sheets of all these turbo/sc kits making more than that and still pushing on stock internals...... Cereal guys.... __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

10-23-2012, 11:51 PM	#12
usptwins Toyota Soul Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 96 taco Location: Louisiana Posts: 528 Thanks: 725 Thanked 99 Times in 78 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	or just a full on race spec. Something that can handle over 500wtq... then we would all be safe with one of those __________________ No replacement for Displacement??? Tell that to the people with a 2JZ.

10-24-2012, 12:40 AM	#14
Le86 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: PNW Posts: 144 Thanks: 11 Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As far as staged kits, you also need to look at sprung or unsprung. Sprung clutches will generally have a similar pedal feel as far as softness/stiffness goes, although engagement may still be harsh/soft depending on which stage you go with. I had a spec stage 3, 6-puck sprung clutch in my 240 and the pedal felt soft, almost like an OEM clutch, however the engagement was incredibly harsh. No room to ride the clutch at all, it was either in or out, no in between. __________________ 10/01/2012 FR-S down for P0019 code. Received vehicle back from dealership with a new ECU 10/30/2012

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subatoy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: subatoy Location: Atlanta Posts: 667 Thanks: 32 Thanked 198 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hate staged kits! the clutch pedal gets really hard and it's a pain to drive smoothly or comfy. I seriously had a bigger left leg than my right left after my WRX.

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