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~el~jefe~ · 08-05-2021, 01:26 PM

They have to wait to add that for another year. I guess.

the 2017 I had with them was awesome on mountains and in traffic.

Putting that as an option for a later year does not increase sales for the first year.

Does the new brake system look nicer than the old ones? Consolation prize?

saltywetman · 08-05-2021, 01:31 PM

is it confirmed that brembos won't be an option for dealer add-on or higher trim level?

dragoontwo · 08-05-2021, 01:35 PM

There was no option for it when I placed my '22 order.

Zandermannnn · 08-05-2021, 01:46 PM

Honestly, this is the only thing that has me hesitant to buy the first model year. Might kick myself if the 2023 gets a PP option with brembos from the factory.

ZDan · 08-05-2021, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~

Does the new brake system look nicer than the old ones? Consolation prize?

Looks same, or worse with small rotors in 18" wheels...

ichitaka05 · 08-05-2021, 01:48 PM

Brembo doesn't do anything to daily or mountain drive performance. Pads & tires do more performance.

Zandermannnn · 08-05-2021, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Brembo doesn't do anything to daily or mountain drive performance. Pads & tires do more performance.

Part of it is looks for me too. I guess I could swap them in later on if it really bothered me that much.

ichitaka05 · 08-05-2021, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zandermannnn

Part of it is looks for me too. I guess I could swap them in later on if it really bothered me that much.

Bling factor is def there & cannot deny that it looks good w the Brembo

~el~jefe~ · 08-05-2021, 01:58 PM

Uh. Well. brembo's are lighter but bigger. So that's a real thing. They also were tested to have same braking distance after 30+ hard brakes and the stock ones faded. So that's not the same thing.

Anyways, i can afford anything just want to avoid changing things on a brand new subaru.

Stonehorsw · 08-05-2021, 02:00 PM

They could be developing another BBK.

Sasquachulator · 08-05-2021, 02:20 PM

Not sure about the subaru side but i dont think the Toyota/Scion side ever got the Brembo/PP option until 2019 when it came on the TRD SE edition, and then carried over to the 2020 as an actual TRD option package. I dont even think any of the FRS release series had them. But Canada never got them outside of the 2019 TRD SE. For 2020 only the 18" wheels carried over on the MT models (AT still got the 17's)
at least not in North America, i know they were available overseas in some of the earlier model year cars.

So it wouldnt surprise me if any kind of brembo package shows up later down the line but not right away if at all.

weederr33 · 08-05-2021, 02:28 PM

I'm sure there will be plenty of aftermarket options. They were already teased during one of the videos of tuners showing off their work. But I agree, the brembos really add to the look. Even if they don't do much. Though something like how Mazda does with their Miata and have front brembos bit reg rears is fine with me.

mazeroni · 08-05-2021, 02:29 PM

The PP and Ts both seemed incredibly popular. PP models were all I ever saw when looking at dealers within 500 miles.

However, I was always skeptical about performance. Considering the weight, power, and tire on the car, having more bite out of the brakes didn't seem like it was a difference maker. However, for Subaru, the margins were probably really nice.

But yes. Launch the new car with as few configurations, let popularity fall going into year 2, then launch your PP models.

I guess the question is, are they going to skip the PP and just offer a Ts instead? Brakes, dampers, and forged wheels would probably push the price to 35K. If you want to spend that, more power to you! Again, for Subaru, the margins will be good and there are probably 500+ people willing to buy that model a year.

~el~jefe~ · 08-05-2021, 02:37 PM

having the Brembo's also gave you better struts and a plate on the tower area extra. The brembo's were amazing at keeping pure consistent smooth braking regardless of temperature. Loved them. would want such things again. Or the equivalent if a manufacturer makes them better. VW GTI had very nice brakes that were VW designed, no point for aftermarket when i was looking at the mid package upgrade a fewyears ago.

08-05-2021, 01:26 PM	#1
~el~jefe~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 601 Thanks: 829 Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No Brembos = suck They have to wait to add that for another year. I guess. the 2017 I had with them was awesome on mountains and in traffic. Putting that as an option for a later year does not increase sales for the first year. Does the new brake system look nicer than the old ones? Consolation prize?

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~el~jefe~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 601 Thanks: 829 Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Uh. Well. brembo's are lighter but bigger. So that's a real thing. They also were tested to have same braking distance after 30+ hard brakes and the stock ones faded. So that's not the same thing. Anyways, i can afford anything just want to avoid changing things on a brand new subaru.

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mazeroni Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 600 Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The PP and Ts both seemed incredibly popular. PP models were all I ever saw when looking at dealers within 500 miles. However, I was always skeptical about performance. Considering the weight, power, and tire on the car, having more bite out of the brakes didn't seem like it was a difference maker. However, for Subaru, the margins were probably really nice. But yes. Launch the new car with as few configurations, let popularity fall going into year 2, then launch your PP models. I guess the question is, are they going to skip the PP and just offer a Ts instead? Brakes, dampers, and forged wheels would probably push the price to 35K. If you want to spend that, more power to you! Again, for Subaru, the margins will be good and there are probably 500+ people willing to buy that model a year.

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~el~jefe~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 601 Thanks: 829 Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	having the Brembo's also gave you better struts and a plate on the tower area extra. The brembo's were amazing at keeping pure consistent smooth braking regardless of temperature. Loved them. would want such things again. Or the equivalent if a manufacturer makes them better. VW GTI had very nice brakes that were VW designed, no point for aftermarket when i was looking at the mid package upgrade a fewyears ago.

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