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nubbster927 · 08-14-2012, 10:07 AM

UPDATE: Added Motortrend's BRZ review, along with the Lamborghini Aventador and Jaguar XKR-S
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ar_contenders/

http://wot.motortrend.com/best-drive...wn-246127.html

Didn't find this posted before. Here's a preview of their annual Best Driver's Car test that they'll begin publishing on Monday, Aug 20. BRZ has some tough competition.

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dwx · 08-14-2012, 10:28 AM

Haha yeah, as much as I love my BRZ, I'm not going to pick it over a McLaren MP4-12C or Aventador.

I think the next cheapest car on that list is twice the cost of the BRZ...

DarkSunrise · 08-14-2012, 10:30 AM

Crazy I'm not sure the BRZ will place even mid-pack against this group. It's absurd when the next weakest car after the BRZ is a 400hp Carrera S. They should have included a couple more great drivers' cars under $60k like the Evolution X and Cayman.

Spaceywilly · 08-14-2012, 10:32 AM

Top Gear chose the GT86 over the MP4-12C in their Speed Week, so it's not impossible.

Draco-REX · 08-14-2012, 10:39 AM

The low cost will count a lot in the BRZ's favor. We'll see. But I'm not holding my breath for an American car rag to declare a low-hp car the best driver's car.

eikond · 08-14-2012, 10:49 AM

We should go post this link on the Hyundai Gen Coupe website and ask them why they didn't get picked for this comparo.. lol

Seriously though.. What a huge compliment for the BRZ to be included in that group of cars.

S2kphile · 08-14-2012, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eikond

Seriously though.. What a huge compliment for the BRZ to be included in that group of cars.

This is what is called

for BRZ/FRS. I can't wait to read it; I expect it to be in the top 3. And definitely the best bang for the buck.

OrbitalEllipses · 08-14-2012, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Top Gear chose the GT86 over the MP4-12C in their Speed Week, so it's not impossible.

I think Chris Harris did a video through /Drive on DDing the MP4-12C and came to the conclusion it was terrible.

SupraLove · 08-14-2012, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx

Haha yeah, as much as I love my BRZ, I'm not going to pick it over a McLaren MP4-12C or Aventador.

I would. Tell me when a Lamborghini ever competes in Solo II and wins.

I'd rather drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow. It's not like I'd be having any fun in the Aventador anyway, because there'd be hardly anybody to compete with on the track or on the autocross course.

drifter · 08-14-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

It's absurd when the next weakest car after the BRZ is a 400hp Carrera S.

Absurd? I think it's an honor. : )

was385 · 08-14-2012, 12:32 PM

Yeah, it all depends on whether they're including value as a part of the judgement. Not including price, it's not going to stand up with most of those cars, but to be included is pretty impressive on its own.

UncleFester · 08-14-2012, 12:39 PM

I see this comparison as relative to each vehicles cost. All of these cars are seen and proven as the top performers within their respective price points/targets.

So, the spirit of the comparison is to find the most car for the least dollar.

SUB-FT86 · 08-14-2012, 12:46 PM

Aventador is the only car there that makes me drool.

TRD_86 · 08-14-2012, 12:55 PM

This is crazy that they just keep take this car and compare with $100k, $200k, $300k out there ... ???

Man, it's too unfair for 86! Every single magazine on the stand today show and talk endlessly for GT86/FRS/BRZ. I saw the 86 on Modified magazine last night and another of red hot FRS pic with a new fastest Ferrari Berlinetta on another magazine at costco stand .... like a Men's choice.

Jayde · 08-14-2012, 02:09 PM

I do love me some MP4-12C.

But I'm gonna guess the BRZ comes in the top 5 with either a Mustang or Camaro in the bottom 3.

TRD_86 · 08-14-2012, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayde

I do love me some MP4-12C.

But I'm gonna guess the BRZ comes in the top 5 with either a Mustang or Camaro in the bottom 3.

Look at that pics... mustang and camaro are the weakest link. imo

Jordo! · 08-14-2012, 02:21 PM

Another extremely subjective comparison... expect Porsche and BRZ to vie for 1st and 2nd.

no_name · 08-14-2012, 02:25 PM

The last time I read a 'Best Driver's Car' comparison, the Miata came out ahead of all the Porsches and supercars. It's based on how it treats the driver, not how fast it goes. So the BRZ has a shot.

- actually now that I think about it, the Boxter may have finished first and the Miata second.

industrial · 08-14-2012, 02:43 PM

Looking at that group, it almost seems like an easy win for the BRZ in my opinion...

Now if you are looking for the best track day car or the fastest car it might be a different story. That's a really odd grouping. Basically a bunch of muscle cars, supercars and 1 basic sports car. I'm surprised any contest like this wouldn't include a cayman or boxter or miata or elise.

Don't get me wrong, I'll take an Aventador over a BRZ if I had that kind of money but it'd be more to just drive a balla ass car than to have a "driver's car" per se. I'd have an exige in the garage for days I really want to drive.

WingsofWar · 08-14-2012, 02:54 PM

excited to see this turn out! and those comments on the article are f'in hilarious.

Its true though that the BRZ is the wrench thrown into the machine, and this is a competition of this years performance driver cars.

My prediction is BRZ might come in the middle of the pack, but we will be surprised this year with the leader outcome. With the highest performance cars coming in the bottom of the list.

WingsofWar · 08-14-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by industrial

I'm surprised any contest like this wouldn't include a cayman or boxter or miata or elise.

There are no performance models or new models this year for the '12 Miata and Elise, so they are not including it.

Its more likely to have the Miata and Eilse come in next year when they are released because both cars are getting major overhauls for MY13-MY14

was385 · 08-14-2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayde

I do love me some MP4-12C.

But I'm gonna guess the BRZ comes in the top 5 with either a Mustang or Camaro in the bottom 3.

One of my stepmom's family friends just picked up a McLaren and I'm trying to figure out the best way to say GIVE ME A RIDE while still taking into account that I don't know him that well. That being said, I'd be perfectly happy with a ride in one of his 8-9 other incredible cars.

08-14-2012, 10:07 AM	#1
nubbster927 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 36 Thanks: 30 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Motortrend's Best Driver's Car 2012 preview: BRZ vs ZL1, GT500, Aventador, 911s, MP4 UPDATE: Added Motortrend's BRZ review, along with the Lamborghini Aventador and Jaguar XKR-S http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ar_contenders/ 2013 Subaru BRZ Hot Lap! - 2012 Best Driver's Car Contender - YouTube http://wot.motortrend.com/best-drive...wn-246127.html Didn't find this posted before. Here's a preview of their annual Best Driver's Car test that they'll begin publishing on Monday, Aug 20. BRZ has some tough competition. Video preview: Behind the Scenes of 2012 Best Driver's Car - Wide Open Throttle Episode 29 - YouTube __________________ Last edited by nubbster927; 08-20-2012 at 04:01 PM.

08-14-2012, 10:32 AM	#4
Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,621 Thanks: 355 Thanked 598 Times in 216 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Top Gear chose the GT86 over the MP4-12C in their Speed Week, so it's not impossible. __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers.

08-14-2012, 10:39 AM	#5
Draco-REX Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 07 STI, 03 WRX, 13 BRZ Location: Ohio Posts: 2,262 Thanks: 61 Thanked 975 Times in 450 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The low cost will count a lot in the BRZ's favor. We'll see. But I'm not holding my breath for an American car rag to declare a low-hp car the best driver's car. __________________ 2013 Crystal Black Silica 6MT BRZ, "Ghost"

08-14-2012, 12:55 PM	#14
TRD_86 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 GT86 whiteout Location: ca Posts: 460 Thanks: 39 Thanked 77 Times in 57 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is crazy that they just keep take this car and compare with $100k, $200k, $300k out there ... ??? Man, it's too unfair for 86! Every single magazine on the stand today show and talk endlessly for GT86/FRS/BRZ. I saw the 86 on Modified magazine last night and another of red hot FRS pic with a new fastest Ferrari Berlinetta on another magazine at costco stand .... like a Men's choice. __________________ 2013 86 White K&N filter, Eibach Prokit, HID, LED DRL. Last edited by TRD_86; 08-14-2012 at 02:15 PM.

08-14-2012, 02:09 PM	#15
Jayde Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 Satin White Pearl BRZ Limited Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 2,166 Thanks: 694 Thanked 630 Times in 422 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I do love me some MP4-12C. But I'm gonna guess the BRZ comes in the top 5 with either a Mustang or Camaro in the bottom 3. __________________ ◄Tri-State Owners Club, Facebook Group► June 22nd GPNY IN IT TO WIN IT! Meet + Contest *BRZerhood*

08-14-2012, 10:28 AM	#2
dwx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 1,228 Thanks: 41 Thanked 259 Times in 181 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Haha yeah, as much as I love my BRZ, I'm not going to pick it over a McLaren MP4-12C or Aventador. I think the next cheapest car on that list is twice the cost of the BRZ...

08-14-2012, 10:30 AM	#3
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2011 GTI / 2013 FR-S Location: VA Posts: 1,083 Thanks: 48 Thanked 366 Times in 222 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Crazy I'm not sure the BRZ will place even mid-pack against this group. It's absurd when the next weakest car after the BRZ is a 400hp Carrera S. They should have included a couple more great drivers' cars under $60k like the Evolution X and Cayman.

08-14-2012, 10:49 AM	#6
eikond Wish Nissan made one Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 WRB BRZ Premium Location: Bloomfield, MI Posts: 634 Thanks: 81 Thanked 240 Times in 124 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	We should go post this link on the Hyundai Gen Coupe website and ask them why they didn't get picked for this comparo.. lol Seriously though.. What a huge compliment for the BRZ to be included in that group of cars.

08-14-2012, 12:32 PM	#11
was385 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: MT WRB BRZ Limited, 2007 911s Location: CT Posts: 509 Thanks: 77 Thanked 154 Times in 72 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah, it all depends on whether they're including value as a part of the judgement. Not including price, it's not going to stand up with most of those cars, but to be included is pretty impressive on its own.

08-14-2012, 12:46 PM	#13
SUB-FT86 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 06 G35 Coupe Sport Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 2,462 Thanks: 36 Thanked 158 Times in 95 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Aventador is the only car there that makes me drool.

08-14-2012, 02:21 PM	#17
Jordo! Enjoy it, destroy it. Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Datsun Racing Hen Location: Blank Generation Posts: 824 Thanks: 6 Thanked 48 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Another extremely subjective comparison... expect Porsche and BRZ to vie for 1st and 2nd.

08-14-2012, 02:25 PM	#18
no_name Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2005 Hyundai Accent Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 304 Thanks: 19 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The last time I read a 'Best Driver's Car' comparison, the Miata came out ahead of all the Porsches and supercars. It's based on how it treats the driver, not how fast it goes. So the BRZ has a shot. - actually now that I think about it, the Boxter may have finished first and the Miata second. __________________ GT86: "This car has two steering wheels: one is circular, the other is operated with the right foot."

08-14-2012, 02:43 PM	#19
industrial Add lightness! Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Brz Location: Boston Posts: 667 Thanks: 229 Thanked 317 Times in 172 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looking at that group, it almost seems like an easy win for the BRZ in my opinion... Now if you are looking for the best track day car or the fastest car it might be a different story. That's a really odd grouping. Basically a bunch of muscle cars, supercars and 1 basic sports car. I'm surprised any contest like this wouldn't include a cayman or boxter or miata or elise. Don't get me wrong, I'll take an Aventador over a BRZ if I had that kind of money but it'd be more to just drive a balla ass car than to have a "driver's car" per se. I'd have an exige in the garage for days I really want to drive.

08-14-2012, 02:54 PM	#20
WingsofWar NINJA MODERATOR #2 Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 87 FC3S TII Location: Seattle Posts: 2,473 Thanks: 233 Thanked 1,016 Times in 382 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	excited to see this turn out! and those comments on the article are f'in hilarious. Its true though that the BRZ is the wrench thrown into the machine, and this is a competition of this years performance driver cars. My prediction is BRZ might come in the middle of the pack, but we will be surprised this year with the leader outcome. With the highest performance cars coming in the bottom of the list. __________________

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