accelerating from a dead stop - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jarviz · 07-11-2012, 09:19 AM

We all know that this car is lacking a bit of torque, especially at the lower rpm ranges. I especially noticed it today when I pulled up behind an M3 this morning (good thing I didn't pull up next to it haha). As the light turn green, I wanted to see if I can keep up with it without flooring the pedal - definitely not as I watched him take off in front of me, so I concentrated on just staying ahead of the civics and corollas next to me - at least that wasn't too bad.

How do you guys normally accelerate and up-shift to keep up with the quicker cars from a dead stop? I normally up-shift to second really quick (less than 10mph) and throttle a little harder in second for a little longer - is this the wrong technique? Is the best way to accelerate, to throttle hard and up-shift at later rpms?

#87 · 07-11-2012, 09:28 AM

lolwut? If you want more power you need more revs, so why are you shifting up at 10 mph, that's like 2k RPM

I see you are in Queens with raven FRS, I saw a raven FRS on van wyck expressway last week, did you see a silver BRZ next to you?

pr086 · 07-11-2012, 09:39 AM

lol if you want maximum acceleration you take 1st to redline, shift, 2nd to redline, shift, 3rd to redline.... i think you see where i'm going.

86boyAF1 · 07-11-2012, 09:42 AM

Sounds like you were granny shifting and not double clutching like you should. Now me and the mad scientist gotta rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried.

RAN94A · 07-11-2012, 09:45 AM

^^^ i lolled

RAN94A · 07-11-2012, 09:47 AM

your launches need moar vtec..

Spaceywilly · 07-11-2012, 09:47 AM

a hair could fall on the gas pedal of an M3 and it would accelerate faster than a BRZ/FRS. If you want to be the stoplight racing champion of your block you bought the wrong car.

Palmy · 07-11-2012, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86boyAF1

Sounds like you were granny shifting and not double clutching like you should. Now me and the mad scientist gotta rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried.

:lol :

Shinjuku05 · 07-11-2012, 10:19 AM

do not even bench mark this car against a beemer M3 of pretty much any year.

the game was cancelled and the players quit the team.

like comparing.....uh just dont go there...

jarviz · 07-11-2012, 10:20 AM

Ah got it, this is my first MT so i'm definitely babying the car...don't want to try anything with it since this is my first new car too. I feel like I'm hurting the engine everytime I go past 4k rpm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87

lolwut? If you want more power you need more revs, so why are you shifting up at 10 mph, that's like 2k RPM

I see you are in Queens with raven FRS, I saw a raven FRS on van wyck expressway last week, did you see a silver BRZ next to you?

Van Wyck could've been me, didn't notice you though. you should've honked!

tripjammer · 07-11-2012, 10:49 AM

I would still take on a BMW M3 on a twisty mountain road in a FR-S or BRZ...

AX_FRS · 07-11-2012, 10:58 AM

what does double clutching do for speed? Or is that mostly to protect the engine/transmission?

Khyron686 · 07-11-2012, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AX_FRS

what does double clutching do for speed? Or is that mostly to protect the engine/transmission?

It's a joke quote from a movie. You use it when downshifting (slowing) on old cars with no syncros or if you just want to feel like a boss.

7thgear · 07-11-2012, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AX_FRS

what does double clutching do for speed? Or is that mostly to protect the engine/transmission?

double clutching is what kids used to do when there weren't any synchros

only reason to double clutch now is if your putting a lot of power through a shitty transmission and you want it to last just a little bit longer before it shreds itself, or if your synchros are fried, either way you need a new tranny

it does not make you faster

07-11-2012, 09:19 AM	#1
jarviz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Raven FRS MT Location: Queens, NY Posts: 965 Thanks: 76 Thanked 249 Times in 125 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	accelerating from a dead stop We all know that this car is lacking a bit of torque, especially at the lower rpm ranges. I especially noticed it today when I pulled up behind an M3 this morning (good thing I didn't pull up next to it haha). As the light turn green, I wanted to see if I can keep up with it without flooring the pedal - definitely not as I watched him take off in front of me, so I concentrated on just staying ahead of the civics and corollas next to me - at least that wasn't too bad. How do you guys normally accelerate and up-shift to keep up with the quicker cars from a dead stop? I normally up-shift to second really quick (less than 10mph) and throttle a little harder in second for a little longer - is this the wrong technique? Is the best way to accelerate, to throttle hard and up-shift at later rpms?

07-11-2012, 09:47 AM	#7
Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 361 Thanked 727 Times in 236 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	a hair could fall on the gas pedal of an M3 and it would accelerate faster than a BRZ/FRS. If you want to be the stoplight racing champion of your block you bought the wrong car. __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers.

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07-11-2012, 09:28 AM	#2
#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lolwut? If you want more power you need more revs, so why are you shifting up at 10 mph, that's like 2k RPM I see you are in Queens with raven FRS, I saw a raven FRS on van wyck expressway last week, did you see a silver BRZ next to you?

07-11-2012, 09:39 AM	#3
pr086 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: fast Location: US Posts: 325 Thanks: 1 Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lol if you want maximum acceleration you take 1st to redline, shift, 2nd to redline, shift, 3rd to redline.... i think you see where i'm going.

07-11-2012, 09:42 AM	#4
86boyAF1 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 1JZ-GTE Toyota Mark II, Toyota bB Location: Okinawa, JP Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 57 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like you were granny shifting and not double clutching like you should. Now me and the mad scientist gotta rip apart the block and replace the piston rings you fried.

07-11-2012, 09:45 AM	#5
RAN94A Grand PooBah Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GT MT Location: Sydney Posts: 424 Thanks: 157 Thanked 225 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^^ i lolled

07-11-2012, 10:19 AM	#9
Shinjuku05 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: TBA Location: Australia Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	do not even bench mark this car against a beemer M3 of pretty much any year. the game was cancelled and the players quit the team. like comparing.....uh just dont go there...

07-11-2012, 10:58 AM	#12
AX_FRS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 05 Ford Focus ZX4 Location: United States Posts: 139 Thanks: 41 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	what does double clutching do for speed? Or is that mostly to protect the engine/transmission?

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