BRZ Inventory

[osidak]

it is hard to find a '17 BRZ on the lot - Is Toyota making more of them or is the BRZ just that much more popular?

[softgrip]

I was told by my Subaru guy, in Australia, that the ratio is like 10 GT86 to every 1 BRZ. Some marketing agreement.

Then again, he was a carsalesman

[osidak]

well according to cars.com search

If I do a search in a 250 mile radius I get 11 BRZ manuals and 54 86 manuals

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by osidak

well according to cars.com search

If I do a search in a 250 mile radius I get 11 BRZ manuals and 54 86 manuals

That is about right. Toyota has a much greater production number of these worldwide. It has never been 50/50. There could be 100 reasons why but unless somebody has top level info any guesses are just guesses.
My personal speculation is it was Subaru's choice to stay lower since they don't want to cannibalize their WRX and STI sales too much.

Take a look here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=10766&page=53

[softgrip]

If there was no BRZ I would have just dumped $$$ into my WRX rather than buying a new car.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by softgrip

If there was no BRZ I would have just dumped $$$ into my WRX rather than buying a new car.

Not went 86?

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not went 86?

Of course not. Subaru is better.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Of course not. Subaru is better.

Well everybody knows that as they go down the assembly line they pick the best ones to be BRZ, the middles ones t be 86s and the crap became FRSs. Don't know what they will do with the crappy ones now.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well everybody knows that as they go down the assembly line they pick the best ones to be BRZ, the middles ones t be 86s and the crap became FRSs. Don't know what they will do with the crappy ones now.

Convert them to AUDM. They're all upside down anyways, so it's not like they can tell the difference.

[track junkie]

Subaru sold only 330 BRZ in October 2016 out of 620 Subaru dealers in the U.S.A. That's not much incentive for the dealers to carry more BRZ inventory.

http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...-october-sales

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Convert them to AUDM. They're all upside down anyways, so it's not like they can tell the difference.

AUEM

[ToySub1946]

For the 2017 MY, the 86 costs $805 more than a BRZ Premium (USA models).

Not sure just why they did that ??

So, for me, if I were in the market, it'd be BRZ to save a few bucks.


Really, also not sure if both cars have exactly the same equipment ? Other than dissimilar bumpers and interior looks, do they each have the same radio, etc ? In other words, would their cost to build be about the same, 86, or BRZ ?

[Irace86]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That is about right. Toyota has a much greater production number of these worldwide. It has never been 50/50. There could be 100 reasons why but unless somebody has top level info any guesses are just guesses.
My personal speculation is it was Subaru's choice to stay lower since they don't want to cannibalize their WRX and STI sales too much.

Take a look here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=10766&page=53

When you say production, do you mean construction or do you mean sales? I ask because I was pretty sure Subaru was producing/building/constructing all varieties of the twins.

If I had to guess I would say Subaru acquired Toyota tech, and Subaru may get a slice of the sales of each frs/86 sold, considering they are supplying the power train and are building the cars. Toyota owns 16.5% shares of FHI, so profit sharing is built into the system already. It may be in both of their interests for Toyota to keep selling in many of the markets Toyota dominates. Lastly, considering the price is cheaper for the frs/86 for most markets, the sales should be higher for them than the brz considering most who buy are looking to modify the car heavy, or are younger and looking to get into something that is cheap and fun.

[why?]

Originally Posted by Irace86

When you say production, do you mean construction or do you mean sales? I ask because I was pretty sure Subaru was producing/building/constructing all varieties of the twins.

If I had to guess I would say Subaru acquired Toyota tech, and Subaru may get a slice of the sales of each frs/86 sold, considering they are supplying the power train and are building the cars. Toyota owns 16.5% shares of FHI, so profit sharing is built into the system already. It may be in both of their interests for Toyota to keep selling in many of the markets Toyota dominates. Lastly, considering the price is cheaper for the frs/86 for most markets, the sales should be higher for them than the brz considering most who buy are looking to modify the car heavy, or are younger and looking to get into something that is cheap and fun.

Subaru makes all the 86's.

They make about 10 times more Toyotas than Subarus.