Car Advice: 'Toyota 86 to undercut VW Golf GTI'

[davey90]

HOLY!

high spec is 10k more then low spec? I'd thought it would be at least 3 or 5k more not 10k. dayam! LOL!

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by coyote

Could you please link to the spec sheets or tell me the differences between the top spec Subaru and Toyota?

you are aware i was referring to JDM spec for both 86 and BRZ?

JDM 86 spec (difference between RC to GT Limited in pic):
http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/spec/e...oto/index.html

JDM 86 full spec in Japanese:
http://toyota.jp/86/001_p_001/spec/e...ist/index.html

JDM BRZ full spec in Japanese:
http://www.subaru.jp/brz/brz/spec/

basically BRZ Spec S is very similar to the JDM 86 GT spec. You can add the leather/suede interior and aero pack on the BRZ Spec S to get 86 GT Limited spec.

my whole point is that when Subaru refers to "top spec" (ie. Spec S), it might be different to Toyota's "top spec" (ie. GT Limited). So if this is followed to our spec, then Subaru will bring in a spec between the 86 low and high spec and might be priced accordingly.

[JDM-20L]

Originally Posted by davey90

HOLY!

high spec is 10k more then low spec? I'd thought it would be at least 3 or 5k more not 10k. dayam! LOL!

With you on that one.. lets just see how that pans out!

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by newft86

Hi guys, word around the dealership at the moment is the 86 pricing should be released around the 20th of June, 2012 with the top spec at around $50k drive away and the standard spec around $40k drive away so that article doesn't seem too far off the mark.

Is the $50k for top spec auto?

frankly $10k is too much for the extra features.

[dimik252]

All this talk of pricing is really putting me of an 86. Especially the fact that Australia is getting slugged so much more.

I've decided to go with a wrx (Maybe gti golf if I can get over FWD), Im going to wait for the pricing to be announced before I buy. If the 86 is not starting at 35 then wrx it is for me.

40k is still to much, seeing as the 200sx came out cheaper than a 86. 50k for top of the range? really?

Think about it, 45-50k for a BRZ or 40k for a WRX? I know which one id rather be in at the set of lights. My suspicion is Subaru knows there is an error here and hence why 200 are being realised to justify the "exclusiveness" (Only for the Australian Market of course)

IMO the enthusiasts will be buying this car, someone with 40k in there pocket and wants a sports car will stay clear of the 86 for obvious reasons (hopefully I'm wrong as I want the car to be a success)

or?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/167003/n...ke-a-comeback/

Nissan will fill the gap better than Toyota and Subaru attempted to do. It really not that hard RWD, lightweight, 4 cylinders, turbo and will easily squeeze in under 35k

[davey90]

Originally Posted by dimik252

All this talk of pricing is really putting me of an 86. Especially the fact that Australia is getting slugged so much more.

I've decided to go with a wrx (Maybe gti golf if I can get over FWD), Im going to wait for the pricing to be announced before I buy. If the 86 is not starting at 35 then wrx it is for me.

40k is still to much, seeing as the 200sx came out cheaper than a 86. 50k for top of the range? really?

Think about it, 45-50k for a BRZ or 40k for a WRX? I know which one id rather be in at the set of lights. My suspicion is Subaru knows there is an error here and hence why 200 are being realised to justify the "exclusiveness" (Only for the Australian Market of course)

IMO the enthusiasts will be buying this car, someone with 40k in there pocket and wants a sports car will stay clear of the 86 for obvious reasons (hopefully I'm wrong as I want the car to be a success)

or?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/167003/n...ke-a-comeback/

Nissan will fill the gap better than Toyota and Subaru attempted to do. It really not that hard RWD, lightweight, 4 cylinders, turbo and will easily squeeze in under 35k

not sure if you meant 40k as base or drive away.
Just checked the price for WRX in Sydney on the net, its $44,144 RDP. Not sure how much you could neg with the dealer to get it to 40k. but that's the internet may not be correct or up to date with the pricing.

[Skorov]

Originally Posted by newft86

Hi guys, word around the dealership at the moment is the 86 pricing should be released around the 20th of June, 2012 with the top spec at around $50k drive away and the standard spec around $40k drive away so that article doesn't seem too far off the mark.

Quite frankly, this is too much for the high spec. If it does indeed turn out to cost $50k, I simply won't be able to afford it. =(

[Staticfrost]

w0w 50k for top model screw that shit!!!

I wont pay more then 45k drive away for top spec!

[dimik252]

Originally Posted by davey90

not sure if you meant 40k as base or drive away.
Just checked the price for WRX in Sydney on the net, its $44,144 RDP. Not sure how much you could neg with the dealer to get it to 40k. but that's the internet may not be correct or up to date with the pricing.

Sorry should have mentioned 40k drive away for the base.

I got quoted 42 drive away for the wrx - That was for base model, no leather, sunroof or sat nav. or 46 for the premium

[Staticfrost]

Originally Posted by dimik252

Sorry should have mentioned 40k drive away for the base.

I got quoted 42 drive away for the wrx - That was for base model, no leather, sunroof or sat nav. or 46 for the premium

well 46k for prem wrx i wont pay more then 41k for the top spec 86.

[70NYD]

Guys this is still a guess, a better one but a guess none the less. There are a few holes in the story

[Staticfrost]

IF you know something we don't I think you should share

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by Staticfrost

IF you know something we don't I think you should share

x 2!!

the wait is killing!!

[davey90]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

x 2!!

the wait is killing!!

x3