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Ruckus · 10-22-2013, 03:19 AM

So I'm looking to go FI here verrrrry shortly. My question is could a fully built supercharged motor make around 400 hp? I know Hks has their drift car which is making around 500 Hp I think but im not sure exactly what all has been done to it.
I'd like to think the 250-300 hp will be enough from just running e85 and super charging it but... but u always want more power! I was just curious what other people think.

400 hp supercharged monster... /drool

I know big numbers are relatively easy to hit with turbo setups. I just love the sound of that innovate kit.

Good idea?
Bad idea?
Possible?
Impossible?

midnight23 · 10-22-2013, 03:24 AM

@evasivemotorsports already did this

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39242

Hawaiian · 10-22-2013, 03:25 AM

It's completely possible, although you might need to use a more off the shelf SC than what is currently offered for pump gas.

There is already a forum member putting down upper 300's with 85 using the vortech on the stock block.

Ruckus · 10-22-2013, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

It's completely possible, although you might need to use a more off the shelf SC than what is currently offered for pump gas.

There is already a forum member putting down upper 300's with 85 using the vortech on the stock block.

No kidding? He have a build thread?

20valvewynn83 · 10-22-2013, 03:48 AM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLP-HCcX9as&feature=share"]The 450 HP Crawford Performance Turbo BRZ - /TUNED - YouTube[/ame]

Enjoy

Unicorn · 10-22-2013, 04:51 AM

Dear Ruckus,

It's completely possible. Now show me the money.

Yours faithfully,
Unicorn

reyruiz191 · 10-22-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruckus

No kidding? He have a build thread?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34171

There's also someone else who recently hit 360whp with the Vortech on e85 as well, that dyno and more info is in the Vortech questions thread.

SkAsphalt · 10-22-2013, 12:10 PM

I think you could go for one of the two newer superchargers, change the blower (as one of them is up-gradable...so is the vortech now that I remember) get some lower compression pistons and be on your way to 400 crank easy 400 whp with support mods to make sure your baby LIVES

King Tut · 10-22-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 20valvewynn83

Enjoy

Competely irrelevant to the thread. All that video shows is how bad Crawford is at tuning and that they have blown a motor up already. It is definitely possible to hit 400 whp with a supercharger and E85, and I don't think you need a built motor to do it either.

Ruckus · 10-22-2013, 12:27 PM

Plus that Crawford motor isn't supercharged.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-22-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

Competely irrelevant to the thread. All that video shows is how bad Crawford is at tuning and that they have blown a motor up already. It is definitely possible to hit 400 whp with a supercharger and E85, and I don't think you need a built motor to do it either.

jamesm · 10-22-2013, 12:40 PM

if you're going to put all that money into building the engine, you probably wouldn't want to leave all that power on the table using an sc vs. an appropriately sized turbo. the kits available don't use a big enough blower to exploit it.

King Tut · 10-22-2013, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruckus

400 hp supercharged monster... /drool

I know big numbers are relatively easy to hit with turbo setups. I just love the sound of that innovate kit.

Good idea?
Bad idea?
Possible?
Impossible?

While I said you could get there with a supercharger. The Innovate kit with the blower it comes with is not one of those that will be able to do it.

Ruckus · 10-22-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

While I said you could get there with a supercharger. The Innovate kit with the blower it comes with is not one of those that will be able to do it.

don't think it will be able to hold up? I was curious about that also... seeing that it's the only twin screw for are car right now. I guess it makes sense. More moving parts means more places for catastrophic failure.

I'm excited to hear that people have made over 300 with the vortech kit. I've completely missed those threads. I did see the one with the hks blower a few months ago that someone linked here.

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Ruckus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Firestorm FR-S Location: Oklahoma Posts: 137 Thanks: 101 Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fully built motor with a supercharger. So I'm looking to go FI here verrrrry shortly. My question is could a fully built supercharged motor make around 400 hp? I know Hks has their drift car which is making around 500 Hp I think but im not sure exactly what all has been done to it. I'd like to think the 250-300 hp will be enough from just running e85 and super charging it but... but u always want more power! I was just curious what other people think. 400 hp supercharged monster... /drool I know big numbers are relatively easy to hit with turbo setups. I just love the sound of that innovate kit. Good idea? Bad idea? Possible? Impossible? __________________

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Hawaiian That guy Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Ultramarine mt FR-S Location: chicago Posts: 2,370 Thanks: 692 Thanked 1,389 Times in 730 Posts Mentioned: 71 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's completely possible, although you might need to use a more off the shelf SC than what is currently offered for pump gas. There is already a forum member putting down upper 300's with 85 using the vortech on the stock block. __________________ Ultramarine mt FR-S P&L stage 1 turbo Prime Motoring Flex fuel Jr Tuned 506whp @17psi (e73)

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