Unofficial - CEL/SL/Idle Issue List for FR-S/BRZ Owners - Page 193 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

congee · 11-12-2013, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddie

It's a warranty service to diagnose the CEL cause. It should be free. Don't let them tell you otherwise.

So, I was just refused by my local subaru dealer LOL

This was scarboro subaru if anyone in the gta is wondering. Gonna give subaru HQ a call. The guy behind the counter said it'll take up to a week for the CEL for a loose gas cap to disappear. Is that true?

humfrz · 11-13-2013, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by congee

........... The guy behind the counter said it'll take up to a week for the CEL for a loose gas cap to disappear. Is that true?

It could take that long, depending on how much you drive it.

I suggest you stop by your local auto parts store and ask them to clear it.

Best yet, invest in an inexpensive code reader and then you can read codes and make them go away ...

humfrz

Eddie · 11-15-2013, 01:08 PM

ECU replaced yesterday. Had "crickets" when I pulled into the dealership for the repair so I didn't have to convince the tech to order me a new HPFP. Should have that replaced next week.

I'll let you all know if I encounter any issues with the new ECU module.

Nothing · 11-15-2013, 02:49 PM

Well here is the new intake cam actuator. This should be the cure to my CEL. I'll do my best to take pictures of the repair.

I'm really interested in how this thing works. And how it might have failed to cause this issue.

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Nhil · 11-15-2013, 06:13 PM

Is there any confirmation or evidence that this is affecting a certain build date?

vubaru · 11-16-2013, 12:21 AM

Another update to my continuing P0014/P0017/P0019/P000B/C1201/SL/CEL Saga:

The AVO kit has been off the car for about a month now. With the kit off, the car was still CELing and idle shaking/stalling like mad. It was almost like taking the kit off made no difference for the amount of CELs and rough idle/stalling problems I was having.

Then Diablo Subaru warrantied the other side OCV assembly and an O-ring with ECUtek uninstalled off the ECU. Turning the car back to stock appeared to be a good idea to get this done. The ECU does not appear to have been flashed but I can't tell for sure. The car has been CEL/DTC/Idle stall/SL free for about 1400 miles. There is a slight idle drop lag, but the extremely rough idle and idle stall issues are gone. I still hear the chirp and feel a slight uneasiness in the drivetrain when I shift into neutral and drop the RPMs, but the last aspect could just be paranoia.

We'll see what happens. Given all the crap that's happened to my BRZ so far and everything else in thread, I'm not holding my breath, but I'm praying.

@Nhil Diablo's service ticket said my issues happened more frequently with "very low numbers", presumably VIN #'s i.e. early builds, like mine. Vin 0023XX

Snowblind · 11-16-2013, 07:18 AM

Toyota replaced my VVTI Cam thinking that would solve the problem. They drove it a few miles down the road and the engine popped another CEL.

I already started the Lemon Law process, so hopefully I'll be in a new FR-S by the end of the year, or early next year.

Nothing · 11-16-2013, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowblind

Toyota replaced my VVTI Cam thinking that would solve the problem. They drove it a few miles down the road and the engine popped another CEL.

I already started the Lemon Law process, so hopefully I'll be in a new FR-S by the end of the year, or early next year.

What code did you have?

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ron_n_tx · 11-16-2013, 03:27 PM

CEL/SL on @ 1425 miles. The service advisor says it is a cam sensor warning and has to contact Toyota on Monday. Hope it gets resolved soon.

ron_n_tx · 11-16-2013, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurospeed

Folks, my goal is to document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I feel it will be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem.

BACKGROUND
While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your engine control unit (ECU) should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018 or related cam codes).

Toyota and Subaru have developed various solutions for this issue which have not been consistent and may require multiple repairs or even vehicle replacement due to limited success. Repairs could include a combination of the following: replacing cam sprocket assemblies, replacing oil control valves, reflashing and/or replacing the ECU. To expedite service and express your concerns, be sure to contact the corporate customer service numbers below.

PHONE NUMBERS
Scion Customer Service: 866-707-2466
Subaru Customer Service: 800-782-2783

Automotive Magazines/Websites Reporting the Issue
Automobile Magazine (2012.October)
Automotive News (2012.October.03)
AUTOWEEK (2012.October.04) | AUTOWEEK Video (2012.October.05)
Motor Trend (2012.October.04)
autoblog (2012.October.05)
Jalopnik (2012.October.03)
Torque News (2012.October.04)
egmCarTech (2012.October.07)

Forums and Other Related Threads
Toyota UK Statement (states 4% of vehicles are affected)
BRZ CEL/Idle Video | FR-S CEL/Idle Video
Early FR-S Issue and Engine Failure | Another FR-S Engine Failure | FR-S on Fire
Idle Issues Thread | RPM Fluctuation Thread | Idle Issues in UK | AVO CEL Thread
CEL Thread #1 | CEL Thread #2 | CEL Thread #3 | CEL Thread #4 | CEL Thread #5

Please post the following if you are experiencing the CEL/idle issue:
username, model, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), status of repair [3 weeks - repaired, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.]

SALES VOLUME
Total Scion FR-S sales from launch including October 2012 = 8572
Total Subaru BRZ sales from launch including October 2012 = 3120
FR-S October Sales = 1107
BRZ October Sales = 402
FR-S September sales = 1133
BRZ September sales = 508
FR-S August sales = 1913
BRZ August sales = 623
FR-S July sales = 1649
FR-S June sales = 2684

LIST OF AFFECTED VEHICLES
1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, 2 weeks - repaired, CT
2. TeamSweet86, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, 6 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA
3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA
5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada
6. Vracer111, FR-S, 1100 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1100 mi, TX
7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, 7067XX, 3 weeks - repaired, TX
8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, CA
9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, repaired, AZ
10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA
11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI
13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, 601XXX, 7 weeks 1st repair - back in shop, CA
14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE
15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, 1 week - repaired, SD
16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, catastrophic engine failure, CA
17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1130 mi, CO
18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA
19. Vonsamhain, FR-S, 250 mi, 7053XX, repaired, CA
20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, 5.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, 500 km, 6027XX, in shop, Canada
22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI
23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MA
24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI
25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY
26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL
27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), IA
28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, FL
29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
30. egraphic, FR-S, 520 mi, 7077XX, vehicle replaced - not repaireable within acceptable time limits, CA
31. whtchocla7e, FR-S, 8 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CT
32. bazi, FR-S, 25 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NC
33. choi0706, BRZ, 200 mi, 6027XX, 4 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), TX
34. TurnOne, FR-S, 335 mi, 7079XX, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, OH
35. thejevans, FR-S, in shop, MD
36. DarkSunrise, FR-S, 120 mi, repaired, VA
37. White13frs, FR-S, 1100 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, TX
38. iheartartoo, FR-S, 110 mi, 7071XX, in shop, USA
39. Christina_Marie, FR-S, 40 mi, 7073XX, 3 weeks - repaired, MA
40. 2000blk, FR-S, 100 mi, 7079XX, in shop, MI
41. gdi2290, BRZ, 717 mi, 6027XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
42. FLASCH, FR-S, 400 mi, 7078XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CA
43. ninetysixzee, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7026XX, repaired, CA
44. governor, FR-S, 2069 km, 6 weeks - repaired, Canada
45. speedy_racer, FR-S, 335 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, NC
46. SubieNate, FR-S, 100 mi, in shop, CA
47. FBaxteR-S, FR-S, 30 km, Canada
48. elchupanebre, BRZ, 470 mi, 6025XX, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, UT
49. griffunitt, FR-S, 150 mi, 7088XX, 3 weeks - repaired, WI
50. TemeCal, FR-S, 425 mi, 7088XX, 5 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA
51. twinturba, FR-S, 1510 miles, 7059XX, CA
52. OmarGC, FR-S, 420mi, 7079XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MO
53. regal, FR-S, 20 mi, 7074XX, PA
54. pituala, FR-S, 900 mi, 7073XX, 10.5 weeks - repaired, FL
55. KingRohan, BRZ, 800 km, 6026XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
56. CharlieChaos, FR-S, 1843 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, RI
57. Ahz, FR-S, 2100 km, 7076XX, Canada
58. 714FR-s_guy, FR-S, 1500 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CA
59. michaelshull, FR-S, 4500 mi, 7037XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
60. Darweeezy, FR-S, 1200 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
61. Ridenslide, FR-S, 10 mi, not purchased, NM
62. 86'ing, FR-S, 865 mi, in shop, LA
63. invaliduser, FR-S, 9 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, LA
64. Jar, FR-S. 2400 mi, 1 week 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), AZ
65. @Art_Mighty, FR-S, 1600 mi, 7087XX, 4 weeks - repaired, IL
66. jesperswe, GT86, 0060XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Sweden
67. Chinadian, FR-S, 120 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada
68. FRSjeff, FR-S, 1900 mi, 7077XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, CA
69. pixel67, FR-S, 17 mi, 7084XX, not purchased, GA
70. RedRydr, FR-S, 900 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, WA
71. Books, FR-S, 1400 mi, 1 week - repaired, MA
72. FT86Raven13, FR-S, 107 mi, in shop, CT
73. Eri***rummin, FR-S, 2950 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NV
74. UbSaMrC, FR-S, 2008 mi, in shop, HI
75. NeenaChrry, FR-S, 170 mi, 7079XX, in shop, VA
76. ddarko68, FR-S, 115 mi, 7072XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, VA
77. [not on forum], GT86, 1400 km, in shop, Sweden
78. JtoshiroW, BRZ, 2400 mi, 6029XX, in shop, HI
79. Teknian_Culprate13, FR-S, 2000 mi, in shop, CA
80. phat_86, FR-S, 350 mi, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, IL
81. ftc~brz, BRZ, 70 mi, 6032XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MD
82. Hawaiian, FR-S, 6325 mi, IL
83. illmatic2349, FR-S, CA
84. Alienate, FR-S, 530 mi, 7092XX, 3 weeks - repaired, NV
85. rapidcars, BRZ, 850 mi, 6029XX, engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, NY
86. _F-R-S_, FR-S, 2700 mi, MD
87. BORGSRT, FR-S, 500 mi, vehicle caught on fire, TN
88. Sargy, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7077XX, 4 weeks - repaired, VA
89. xomp, FR-S, 2602 mi, 7065XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
90. samfrs, FR-S, 42 miles, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
91. FRS-ti, FR-S, in shop, OH
92. TheZombi, BRZ, 500 km, in shop, Canada
93. mlrsguy1982, BRZ, 1300 mi, vehicle replaced - additional damage caused, CA
94. nutzy, BRZ, 1700 mi, in shop - engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MN
95. slideways, FR-S, 1250 miles, 7081XX, in shop, CA
96. miss_paula, FR-S, 1000 mi, in shop, CA
97. HATED1, FR-S, 2545 mi, 5 weeks - repaired, WA
98. Econn80, FR-S, 2 weeks - repaired, TX
99. schmickle, BRZ, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, CA
100. Goodguy889, FR-S, 2500 mi, 7085XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), OR
101. Tengu, FR-S, 6479 mi, 7024XX, in shop, CA
102. Dezoris, FR-S, 1076 mi, 7053XX, IL
103. Wcmarshall, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7078XX, 5 weeks - repaired, TX
104. DrewZ926, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7074XX, TN
105. Mrc@ptuning, FR-S, 460 mi, in shop, VA
106. Aesthetics, FR-S, 3044 km, in shop, Canada
107. kreisinger87, FR-S, 1100 mi, 1 week - repaired, NV
108. dawnst3ar, FR-S, 2940 mi, 7080XX, 4 weeks - repaired, TX
109. AceNiNe, FR-S, 1500 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, NY
110. Oski, BRZ, 1025 mi, 6026XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired, CA
111. Those_Meddling_Kids, BRZ, 2025 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CO
112. asloned, FR-S, 1988 mi, in shop, AZ
113. timotale, BRZ, 6026XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
114. boonFRS, FR-S, 2600 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
115. eyebone, FR-S, 4012 mi, 7069XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
116. Rob_g, FR-S, 4500 km, 1.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
117. Gavin_Albright, FR-S, in shop, NC
118. tbertran, BRZ, 2560 mi, 6027XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
119. Le86, FR-S, 988 mi, 7094XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA
120. brianlo622, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7096XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
121. neurokinetik, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7074XX, 1 week - repaired, NY
122. Boost_Junkie, BRZ, 1115 mi, 1 week - repaired, FL
123. JiB, GT86, 3000 km, Australia
124. felisa, BRZ, in shop, Canada
125. Plxdjake89, FR-S, 4495 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
126. beardy, GT86, 1600 km, in shop, Sweden
127. Mark_Slide_Squad, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7082XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
128. P_Nasty, FR-S, 500 mi, in shop, FL
129. cyrus, FR-S, 540 mi, 7091XX, 5 weeks - repaired, NC
130. nomuken, GT86, 800 km, 0577XX, in shop, Luxembourg
131. hands0me, GT86, 106 km, in shop, Malaysia
132. howiedoit, FR-S, 4100 mi, 7066XX, in shop, CA
133. F1shTa1|5, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7008XX, self reset CEL - clear since 7000 mi, PA
134. Concept-Three-LED's, FR-S, 3144 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NV
135. kaitak98, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6028XX, in shop, USA
136. FA20Bandit, FR-S, 3200 mi, 7082XX, in shop, CA
137. DieselxIndustry, FR-S, 800 mi, 7095XX, 1 week - repaired, IL
138. mx5_2nr, FR-S, 1710 mi, 7085XX, in shop, TX
139. alexmotrix, FR-S, 7500 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada
140. IceCreamMan, FR-S, 7500 mi, 7004XX, 2 weeks - repaired, FL
141. brichard0625, FR-S, 3600 mi, NY
142. ap5512, BRZ, 4917 mi, 6010XX, VA
143. wotter, GT86, 1830 km, 5388XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Belgium
144. darnbry, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KS
145. KrzysFR, GT86, 1400 km, 0067XX, 5 weeks - repaired, France
146. Kieranz, BRZ, 1950 mi, 6028XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
147. rthaanum, FR-S, 800 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, WA
148. samseed, BRZ, CA
149. Callahan, BRZ, 1300 mi, 6027XX, in shop, NC
150. SDIAZ, FR-S, 1242 mi, in shop, NJ
151. ScionFR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NY
152. Scout27rgr, FR-S, 1326 mi, 7079XX, in shop, TX
153. ipothas, FR-S, 120 mi, in shop, MO
154. killercl0wnfish, FR-S, 3800 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KY
155. silverbullet, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6035XX, 1 week - repaired, NH
156. buzzman, FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, OK
157. traybelles, GT86, 0040XX, repaired, Australia
158. Graksthar. FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, VA
159. mhigham, FR-S, 980 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, MI
160. v3rgil, GT86, 300 km, repaired, South Africa
161. ron_jeremy, FR-S, 40 mi, 7093XX, in shop, KS
162. M3power326, FR-S, 3208 mi, 7084XX, IL
163. MikesFRS, FR-S, 5023 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
164. beardy, GT86, 987 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, Sweden
165. jmelgar23, BRZ, 2434 mi, 6029XX, in shop, NY
166. WhiteFR-S, BRZ, 987 mi, PA
167. forwallblakmail, BRZ, 5700 mi, 6017XX, PA
168. Hachi-roku, FR-S, 1893 mi, in shop, TX
169. mbaexec, FR-S, 260 mi, 7079XX , in shop, MD
170. raul, FR-S, 3893 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, FL
171. Space_Boy_Matt, BRZ, 2050 mi, 6033XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
172. FoolCyclist, BRZ, 3630 mi, 6003XX, in shop, FL
173. BrewCity-FR-S, FR-S, 1523 mi, 7073XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WI
174. SpeedmasterBRZ, BRZ, 1500 mi, 602XXX, 3 weeks - repaired, UT
175. Svx, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6035XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, VA
176. rhysmcinerney, GT86, 1200 km, 0063XX, Australia
177. artizhay, FR-S, 3000 mi, TX
178. Jase, GT86, Australia
179. EJ33177, FR-S, 7313 mi, 7075XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), MD
180. nashsnazzy, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7076XX, in shop, TN
181. crazyfrenchbiker, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7086XX, in shop, NE
182. Curt_Aigner, FR-S, 4015 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, IL
183. WheelDude.com, FR-S, 2800 mi, in shop, CA
184. Sir_Alex, FR-S, VA
185. BCooke, BRZ, in shop, TX
186. TheSt|G, BRZ, 1050 mi, 6034XX, PA
187. AVOturboworld, FR-S, 2700 mi, WA
188. SocalBurt, FR-S, 4000 mi, in shop, CA
189. Fizzle, FR-S, 700 mi, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
190. Joesuede, FR-S, CA
191. Little_Red_FR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
192. AX_FRS, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX
193. ironchef, FR-S, 2300 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, GA
194. staycrushing, FR-S, CA
195. IShouldStudy, FR-S, repaired, CA
196. industrial, BRZ, 5500 mi, 6003XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, MA
197. diirk, BRZ, 3437 mi, 6032XX, CA
198. knewsom32, FR-S, TX
199. JSUB, BRZ, 1246 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
200. BR_Zenith, BRZ, 820 mi, 6030XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, ME
201. GregV, BRZ, 3300 mi, 6020XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
202. tvpr, FR-S, 4330 mi, 7084XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA
203. arucard77, FR-S, 3000 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
204. Red_Shift, BRZ, 1500 mi, 6032XX, 2 weeks - repaired, PA
205. FT86Dubai, GT86, 1100 km, 2 weeks - repaired, UAE
206. Squishy, BRZ, 4715 mi, 6029XX, TX
207. E_br4ke, FRS, 2860 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX
208. ToyToyTT, GT86, repaired, Philippines
209. tuckdaddy, FR-S, 5800 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, TX
210. ebphoto, FR-S, 7700mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
211. TurnOne (2nd car), BRZ, 6500 mi, 6034XX, OH
212. fender2819, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA
213. boucher, FR-S, 5984 mi, 7088XX, 2 weeks - repaired, LA
214. skillcraft, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7074XX, in shop, CA
215. acro, GT86, 1200 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired
216. mike_ander, FR-S, 2631 mi, 7088XX, 1 week - repaired, TN
217. luscious, FR-S, 8100 mi, CA
218. Realm, FR-S, 6100 mi, MS
219. kroarke, BRZ, 8467 mi, 6009XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
220. Adeets, BRZ, 7300 mi, 6031XX, 1 week - repaired, PA
221. gara3een, GT86, Jordan
222. royer23, FR-S, 2392 mi, repaired, CA
223. themanatuf, FR-S, 8415 mi, 7089XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
224. DTM, FR-S, 4000 mi, 7092XX, 1 day - repaired, VA
225. MVJ1975, FR-S, 9100 mi, 7012XX, 2 weeks - repaired, VA
226. xfire0384, FR-S, 5400 mi, 7078XX, 1 day - repaired, CA
227. jupillam, FR-S, in shop, CA
228. typeray12, BRZ, 300 mi, 6029XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
229. firehawk, GT86, 4043 km, 0068XX, 1 week - repaired, Finland
230. JDMrolla, FR-S, in shop, VA
231. mvpstigma, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7080XX, in shop, VA
232. rawr, FR-S, 10100 mi, 7070XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
233. lowellm, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6032XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WA
234. WS12888, FR-S, 11000 km, 7067XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Canada
235. Touge_ninja, FR-S, 8780 mi, WA
236. aghuman, FR-S, 900 km, 1 week - repaired, Canada
237. coastermikey, BRZ, 17452 mi, in shop - catastrophic engine failure, MD
238. redleader, FR-S, 9000 mi, 7076XX, 1 day - repaired, AZ
239. SubieNate, BRZ, 15200 mi, in shop, CA
240. TOTO_86, FR-S, in shop, CA
241. jabingb, FR-S, 150 mi, 7188XX, in shop, CA
242. Arthur_Dent, FR-S, 2100 mi, 7140XX, in shop, FL
243. grodenglaive, FR-S, 11000 mi, 7066XX, Canada
244. canuckbrz, FR-S, 6000 km, in shop, Canada
245. Bleevin, FR-S, 9000 km, in shop, Canada
246. Brzzee, BRZ, 1850 mi, 0443XX, in shop, TX
247. sidetrak06, BRZ, 8400 mi, 6035XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CO
248. overeducatedunderacheiver, FR-S, 8000 km, in shop - catastrophic engine failure, Canada
249. Turkish, BRZ, 5600 mi, in shop, 6070XX, in shop, TX
250. MattF, FR-S, SC
251. becciejay, BRZ, 13000 km, in shop, Australia
252. downshift, BRZ, 2000 mi, 6089XX, in shop, MA
253. ron_n_tx, FR-S, 1425 mi, 7344XX, in shop on 16Nov2013, TX
254.
255.

Added my info.

ill86 · 11-19-2013, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurospeed View Post
Folks, my goal is to document the number of owners, their mileage, status of their cars along with other pertinent info. I feel it will be a good snapshot to help understand the severity and broad reach of this problem.

BACKGROUND
While this idle issue may manifest itself as an initial dip, please only add your name if you have experienced a combination of the check engine light (CEL) and slip light (SL) in addition to the RPM hunting at idle (often severe shaking and stalling). The code your engine control unit (ECU) should have stored is P0019 (also optional P0017, P0018 or related cam codes).

Toyota and Subaru have developed various solutions for this issue which have not been consistent and may require multiple repairs or even vehicle replacement due to limited success. Repairs could include a combination of the following: replacing cam sprocket assemblies, replacing oil control valves, reflashing and/or replacing the ECU. To expedite service and express your concerns, be sure to contact the corporate customer service numbers below.

PHONE NUMBERS
Scion Customer Service: 866-707-2466
Subaru Customer Service: 800-782-2783

Automotive Magazines/Websites Reporting the Issue
Automobile Magazine (2012.October)
Automotive News (2012.October.03)
AUTOWEEK (2012.October.04) | AUTOWEEK Video (2012.October.05)
Motor Trend (2012.October.04)
autoblog (2012.October.05)
Jalopnik (2012.October.03)
Torque News (2012.October.04)
egmCarTech (2012.October.07)

Forums and Other Related Threads
Toyota UK Statement (states 4% of vehicles are affected)
BRZ CEL/Idle Video | FR-S CEL/Idle Video
Early FR-S Issue and Engine Failure | Another FR-S Engine Failure | FR-S on Fire
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Please post the following if you are experiencing the CEL/idle issue:
username, model, mileage of occurrence, last six of VIN (use XX for last two), status of repair [3 weeks - repaired, in shop, etc.], location [state, country, etc.]

SALES VOLUME
Total Scion FR-S sales from launch including October 2012 = 8572
Total Subaru BRZ sales from launch including October 2012 = 3120
FR-S October Sales = 1107
BRZ October Sales = 402
FR-S September sales = 1133
BRZ September sales = 508
FR-S August sales = 1913
BRZ August sales = 623
FR-S July sales = 1649
FR-S June sales = 2684

LIST OF AFFECTED VEHICLES
1. eurospeed, FR-S, 140 mi, 7075XX, 2 weeks - repaired, CT
2. TeamSweet86, BRZ, 20 mi, 6027XX, 6 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA
3. danthedirt, FR-S, 2000 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
4. Hammer, BRZ, 6026XX, CA
5. LaserMon, FR-S, 22 km, Canada
6. Vracer111, FR-S, 1100 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1100 mi, TX
7. benzaholic, FR-S, 700 mi, 7067XX, 3 weeks - repaired, TX
8. Mr.Roboto, FR-S, 30 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, CA
9. Yruyur, FR-S, 5700 mi, repaired, AZ
10. alrashwa, FR-S, 300 mi, 7073XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA
11. tintumz22, FR-S, 10 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
12. Scooby_South, BRZ, WI
13. soconfoozed, BRZ, 3500 mi, 601XXX, 7 weeks 1st repair - back in shop, CA
14. oxygen, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7008XX, NE
15. siXXtoes, FR-S, 7066XX, 1 week - repaired, SD
16. Shizzaw, FR-S, 200 mi, catastrophic engine failure, CA
17. QFry, FR-S, 230 mi, self reset CEL - clear since 1130 mi, CO
18. amox, FR-S, 240 mi, CA
19. Vonsamhain, FR-S, 250 mi, 7053XX, repaired, CA
20. 01s0uljah, BRZ, 40 km, 5.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
21. STEVEOSTI, BRZ, 500 km, 6027XX, in shop, Canada
22. ShadowSeraph, FR-S, 1000 mi, WI
23. whiteout_fr-s, FR-S, 25 mi, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MA
24. ubersoph, BRZ, WI
25. Stu_L_Tissimus, BRZ, NY
26. mark7s4, FR-S, FL
27. Tricky1980, FR-S, 76 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), IA
28. Z06tofrs, FR-S, 400 mi, 7067XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, FL
29. number1Tango, FR-S, 63 mi, 7075XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
30. egraphic, FR-S, 520 mi, 7077XX, vehicle replaced - not repaireable within acceptable time limits, CA
31. whtchocla7e, FR-S, 8 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CT
32. bazi, FR-S, 25 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NC
33. choi0706, BRZ, 200 mi, 6027XX, 4 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), TX
34. TurnOne, FR-S, 335 mi, 7079XX, vehicle replaced - catastrophic engine failure, OH
35. thejevans, FR-S, in shop, MD
36. DarkSunrise, FR-S, 120 mi, repaired, VA
37. White13frs, FR-S, 1100 mi, 7077XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, TX
38. iheartartoo, FR-S, 110 mi, 7071XX, in shop, USA
39. Christina_Marie, FR-S, 40 mi, 7073XX, 3 weeks - repaired, MA
40. 2000blk, FR-S, 100 mi, 7079XX, in shop, MI
41. gdi2290, BRZ, 717 mi, 6027XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
42. FLASCH, FR-S, 400 mi, 7078XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, CA
43. ninetysixzee, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7026XX, repaired, CA
44. governor, FR-S, 2069 km, 6 weeks - repaired, Canada
45. speedy_racer, FR-S, 335 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, NC
46. SubieNate, FR-S, 100 mi, in shop, CA
47. FBaxteR-S, FR-S, 30 km, Canada
48. elchupanebre, BRZ, 470 mi, 6025XX, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, UT
49. griffunitt, FR-S, 150 mi, 7088XX, 3 weeks - repaired, WI
50. TemeCal, FR-S, 425 mi, 7088XX, 5 weeks - repaired (3 ECUs), CA
51. twinturba, FR-S, 1510 miles, 7059XX, CA
52. OmarGC, FR-S, 420mi, 7079XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MO
53. regal, FR-S, 20 mi, 7074XX, PA
54. pituala, FR-S, 900 mi, 7073XX, 10.5 weeks - repaired, FL
55. KingRohan, BRZ, 800 km, 6026XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
56. CharlieChaos, FR-S, 1843 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, RI
57. Ahz, FR-S, 2100 km, 7076XX, Canada
58. 714FR-s_guy, FR-S, 1500 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CA
59. michaelshull, FR-S, 4500 mi, 7037XX, in shop - multiple repair attempts, CA
60. Darweeezy, FR-S, 1200 mi, 7077XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
61. Ridenslide, FR-S, 10 mi, not purchased, NM
62. 86'ing, FR-S, 865 mi, in shop, LA
63. invaliduser, FR-S, 9 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, LA
64. Jar, FR-S. 2400 mi, 1 week 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), AZ
65. @Art_Mighty, FR-S, 1600 mi, 7087XX, 4 weeks - repaired, IL
66. jesperswe, GT86, 0060XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Sweden
67. Chinadian, FR-S, 120 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada
68. FRSjeff, FR-S, 1900 mi, 7077XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, CA
69. pixel67, FR-S, 17 mi, 7084XX, not purchased, GA
70. RedRydr, FR-S, 900 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, WA
71. Books, FR-S, 1400 mi, 1 week - repaired, MA
72. FT86Raven13, FR-S, 107 mi, in shop, CT
73. Eri***rummin, FR-S, 2950 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NV
74. UbSaMrC, FR-S, 2008 mi, in shop, HI
75. NeenaChrry, FR-S, 170 mi, 7079XX, in shop, VA
76. ddarko68, FR-S, 115 mi, 7072XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, VA
77. [not on forum], GT86, 1400 km, in shop, Sweden
78. JtoshiroW, BRZ, 2400 mi, 6029XX, in shop, HI
79. Teknian_Culprate13, FR-S, 2000 mi, in shop, CA
80. phat_86, FR-S, 350 mi, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, IL
81. ftc~brz, BRZ, 70 mi, 6032XX, 3.5 weeks - repaired, MD
82. Hawaiian, FR-S, 6325 mi, IL
83. illmatic2349, FR-S, CA
84. Alienate, FR-S, 530 mi, 7092XX, 3 weeks - repaired, NV
85. rapidcars, BRZ, 850 mi, 6029XX, engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, NY
86. _F-R-S_, FR-S, 2700 mi, MD
87. BORGSRT, FR-S, 500 mi, vehicle caught on fire, TN
88. Sargy, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7077XX, 4 weeks - repaired, VA
89. xomp, FR-S, 2602 mi, 7065XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
90. samfrs, FR-S, 42 miles, 7076XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
91. FRS-ti, FR-S, in shop, OH
92. TheZombi, BRZ, 500 km, in shop, Canada
93. mlrsguy1982, BRZ, 1300 mi, vehicle replaced - additional damage caused, CA
94. nutzy, BRZ, 1700 mi, in shop - engine replaced - catastrophic engine failure, MN
95. slideways, FR-S, 1250 miles, 7081XX, in shop, CA
96. miss_paula, FR-S, 1000 mi, in shop, CA
97. HATED1, FR-S, 2545 mi, 5 weeks - repaired, WA
98. Econn80, FR-S, 2 weeks - repaired, TX
99. schmickle, BRZ, vehicle replaced - engine not repairable, CA
100. Goodguy889, FR-S, 2500 mi, 7085XX, 3 weeks 1st repair - back in shop (2 ECUs), OR
101. Tengu, FR-S, 6479 mi, 7024XX, in shop, CA
102. Dezoris, FR-S, 1076 mi, 7053XX, IL
103. Wcmarshall, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7078XX, 5 weeks - repaired, TX
104. DrewZ926, FR-S, 1800 mi, 7074XX, TN
105. Mrc@ptuning, FR-S, 460 mi, in shop, VA
106. Aesthetics, FR-S, 3044 km, in shop, Canada
107. kreisinger87, FR-S, 1100 mi, 1 week - repaired, NV
108. dawnst3ar, FR-S, 2940 mi, 7080XX, 4 weeks - repaired, TX
109. AceNiNe, FR-S, 1500 mi, 7079XX, 2 weeks - repaired, NY
110. Oski, BRZ, 1025 mi, 6026XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired, CA
111. Those_Meddling_Kids, BRZ, 2025 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, CO
112. asloned, FR-S, 1988 mi, in shop, AZ
113. timotale, BRZ, 6026XX, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
114. boonFRS, FR-S, 2600 mi, 1 week - repaired, CA
115. eyebone, FR-S, 4012 mi, 7069XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
116. Rob_g, FR-S, 4500 km, 1.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
117. Gavin_Albright, FR-S, in shop, NC
118. tbertran, BRZ, 2560 mi, 6027XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
119. Le86, FR-S, 988 mi, 7094XX, 4 weeks - repaired, WA
120. brianlo622, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7096XX, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
121. neurokinetik, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7074XX, 1 week - repaired, NY
122. Boost_Junkie, BRZ, 1115 mi, 1 week - repaired, FL
123. JiB, GT86, 3000 km, Australia
124. felisa, BRZ, in shop, Canada
125. Plxdjake89, FR-S, 4495 mi, 3 weeks - repaired, CA
126. beardy, GT86, 1600 km, in shop, Sweden
127. Mark_Slide_Squad, FR-S, 2000 mi, 7082XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
128. P_Nasty, FR-S, 500 mi, in shop, FL
129. cyrus, FR-S, 540 mi, 7091XX, 5 weeks - repaired, NC
130. nomuken, GT86, 800 km, 0577XX, in shop, Luxembourg
131. hands0me, GT86, 106 km, in shop, Malaysia
132. howiedoit, FR-S, 4100 mi, 7066XX, in shop, CA
133. F1shTa1|5, FR-S, 1300 mi, 7008XX, self reset CEL - clear since 7000 mi, PA
134. Concept-Three-LED's, FR-S, 3144 mi, 3.5 weeks - repaired, NV
135. kaitak98, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6028XX, in shop, USA
136. FA20Bandit, FR-S, 3200 mi, 7082XX, in shop, CA
137. DieselxIndustry, FR-S, 800 mi, 7095XX, 1 week - repaired, IL
138. mx5_2nr, FR-S, 1710 mi, 7085XX, in shop, TX
139. alexmotrix, FR-S, 7500 km, 4 weeks - repaired, Canada
140. IceCreamMan, FR-S, 7500 mi, 7004XX, 2 weeks - repaired, FL
141. brichard0625, FR-S, 3600 mi, NY
142. ap5512, BRZ, 4917 mi, 6010XX, VA
143. wotter, GT86, 1830 km, 5388XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Belgium
144. darnbry, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KS
145. KrzysFR, GT86, 1400 km, 0067XX, 5 weeks - repaired, France
146. Kieranz, BRZ, 1950 mi, 6028XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
147. rthaanum, FR-S, 800 mi, 1.5 weeks - repaired, WA
148. samseed, BRZ, CA
149. Callahan, BRZ, 1300 mi, 6027XX, in shop, NC
150. SDIAZ, FR-S, 1242 mi, in shop, NJ
151. ScionFR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, NY
152. Scout27rgr, FR-S, 1326 mi, 7079XX, in shop, TX
153. ipothas, FR-S, 120 mi, in shop, MO
154. killercl0wnfish, FR-S, 3800 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, KY
155. silverbullet, BRZ, 2200 mi, 6035XX, 1 week - repaired, NH
156. buzzman, FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, OK
157. traybelles, GT86, 0040XX, repaired, Australia
158. Graksthar. FR-S, 2400 mi, in shop, VA
159. mhigham, FR-S, 980 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, MI
160. v3rgil, GT86, 300 km, repaired, South Africa
161. ron_jeremy, FR-S, 40 mi, 7093XX, in shop, KS
162. M3power326, FR-S, 3208 mi, 7084XX, IL
163. MikesFRS, FR-S, 5023 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, CA
164. beardy, GT86, 987 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, Sweden
165. jmelgar23, BRZ, 2434 mi, 6029XX, in shop, NY
166. WhiteFR-S, BRZ, 987 mi, PA
167. forwallblakmail, BRZ, 5700 mi, 6017XX, PA
168. Hachi-roku, FR-S, 1893 mi, in shop, TX
169. mbaexec, FR-S, 260 mi, 7079XX , in shop, MD
170. raul, FR-S, 3893 mi, 7080XX, 1 week - repaired, FL
171. Space_Boy_Matt, BRZ, 2050 mi, 6033XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
172. FoolCyclist, BRZ, 3630 mi, 6003XX, in shop, FL
173. BrewCity-FR-S, FR-S, 1523 mi, 7073XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WI
174. SpeedmasterBRZ, BRZ, 1500 mi, 602XXX, 3 weeks - repaired, UT
175. Svx, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6035XX, 1.5 weeks - repaired, VA
176. rhysmcinerney, GT86, 1200 km, 0063XX, Australia
177. artizhay, FR-S, 3000 mi, TX
178. Jase, GT86, Australia
179. EJ33177, FR-S, 7313 mi, 7075XX, 4.5 weeks - repaired (2 ECUs), MD
180. nashsnazzy, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7076XX, in shop, TN
181. crazyfrenchbiker, FR-S, 2600 mi, 7086XX, in shop, NE
182. Curt_Aigner, FR-S, 4015 mi, 2 weeks - repaired, IL
183. WheelDude.com, FR-S, 2800 mi, in shop, CA
184. Sir_Alex, FR-S, VA
185. BCooke, BRZ, in shop, TX
186. TheSt|G, BRZ, 1050 mi, 6034XX, PA
187. AVOturboworld, FR-S, 2700 mi, WA
188. SocalBurt, FR-S, 4000 mi, in shop, CA
189. Fizzle, FR-S, 700 mi, 2.5 weeks - repaired, CA
190. Joesuede, FR-S, CA
191. Little_Red_FR-S, FR-S, 2400 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
192. AX_FRS, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX
193. ironchef, FR-S, 2300 mi, 6 weeks - repaired, GA
194. staycrushing, FR-S, CA
195. IShouldStudy, FR-S, repaired, CA
196. industrial, BRZ, 5500 mi, 6003XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, MA
197. diirk, BRZ, 3437 mi, 6032XX, CA
198. knewsom32, FR-S, TX
199. JSUB, BRZ, 1246 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired, Canada
200. BR_Zenith, BRZ, 820 mi, 6030XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, ME
201. GregV, BRZ, 3300 mi, 6020XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, NJ
202. tvpr, FR-S, 4330 mi, 7084XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA
203. arucard77, FR-S, 3000 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
204. Red_Shift, BRZ, 1500 mi, 6032XX, 2 weeks - repaired, PA
205. FT86Dubai, GT86, 1100 km, 2 weeks - repaired, UAE
206. Squishy, BRZ, 4715 mi, 6029XX, TX
207. E_br4ke, FRS, 2860 mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, TX
208. ToyToyTT, GT86, repaired, Philippines
209. tuckdaddy, FR-S, 5800 mi, 4 weeks - repaired, TX
210. ebphoto, FR-S, 7700mi, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
211. TurnOne (2nd car), BRZ, 6500 mi, 6034XX, OH
212. fender2819, FR-S, 0.5 weeks - repaired, PA
213. boucher, FR-S, 5984 mi, 7088XX, 2 weeks - repaired, LA
214. skillcraft, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7074XX, in shop, CA
215. acro, GT86, 1200 km, 0.5 weeks - repaired
216. mike_ander, FR-S, 2631 mi, 7088XX, 1 week - repaired, TN
217. luscious, FR-S, 8100 mi, CA
218. Realm, FR-S, 6100 mi, MS
219. kroarke, BRZ, 8467 mi, 6009XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
220. Adeets, BRZ, 7300 mi, 6031XX, 1 week - repaired, PA
221. gara3een, GT86, Jordan
222. royer23, FR-S, 2392 mi, repaired, CA
223. themanatuf, FR-S, 8415 mi, 7089XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, FL
224. DTM, FR-S, 4000 mi, 7092XX, 1 day - repaired, VA
225. MVJ1975, FR-S, 9100 mi, 7012XX, 2 weeks - repaired, VA
226. xfire0384, FR-S, 5400 mi, 7078XX, 1 day - repaired, CA
227. jupillam, FR-S, in shop, CA
228. typeray12, BRZ, 300 mi, 6029XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
229. firehawk, GT86, 4043 km, 0068XX, 1 week - repaired, Finland
230. JDMrolla, FR-S, in shop, VA
231. mvpstigma, FR-S, 2700 mi, 7080XX, in shop, VA
232. rawr, FR-S, 10100 mi, 7070XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CA
233. lowellm, BRZ, 1200 mi, 6032XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, WA
234. WS12888, FR-S, 11000 km, 7067XX, 2 weeks - repaired, Canada
235. Touge_ninja, FR-S, 8780 mi, WA
236. aghuman, FR-S, 900 km, 1 week - repaired, Canada
237. coastermikey, BRZ, 17452 mi, in shop - catastrophic engine failure, MD
238. redleader, FR-S, 9000 mi, 7076XX, 1 day - repaired, AZ
239. SubieNate, BRZ, 15200 mi, in shop, CA
240. TOTO_86, FR-S, in shop, CA
241. jabingb, FR-S, 150 mi, 7188XX, in shop, CA
242. Arthur_Dent, FR-S, 2100 mi, 7140XX, in shop, FL
243. grodenglaive, FR-S, 11000 mi, 7066XX, Canada
244. canuckbrz, FR-S, 6000 km, in shop, Canada
245. Bleevin, FR-S, 9000 km, in shop, Canada
246. Brzzee, BRZ, 1850 mi, 0443XX, in shop, TX
247. sidetrak06, BRZ, 8400 mi, 6035XX, 0.5 weeks - repaired, CO
248. overeducatedunderacheiver, FR-S, 8000 km, in shop - catastrophic engine failure, Canada
249. Turkish, BRZ, 5600 mi, in shop, 6070XX, in shop, TX
250. MattF, FR-S, SC
251. becciejay, BRZ, 13000 km, in shop, Australia
252. downshift, BRZ, 2000 mi, 6089XX, in shop, MA
253. ron_n_tx, FR-S, 1425 mi, 7344XX, in shop on 16Nov2013, TX
254. ill86, FR-S, 16,000 mi, catastrophic engine failure, short block replaced, problem ongoing, PA
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UPDATED LIST

Oct 15 - catastrophic engine failure, shot block replaced (spun #3 rod bearing)

Now other issues are starting to appear. P0011 cel/sl. HPFP chirping, avs / vvti , idle, lack of power. ECU original, never updated or flashed. I'm an early adopter, june '12 purchase, 2xxx #

Vehicle being returned to Toyota tomorrow.

Scion/Toyota reps involved. All options offered, lemon, arbitrary, repair, etc..

Problem ongoing..? Over 30 days now.

Snowblind · 11-20-2013, 11:01 AM

Toyota still doesn't know how to fix my vehicle. They were told to start pulling parts off of another customer's vehicle (in for repair for unrelated reasons).

If you drive a black FR-S that's in for throwout bearing repairs you should know they are taking parts off of your car to diagnose mine.

JNovo79 · 11-22-2013, 04:14 PM

Ugh, mine has been dipping at idle... guess I'm calling the dealership. Fuck.

Without going through this entire thread... anyone know how good/bad North Side Toyota/Scion (Chicago) is?

eurospeed · 11-25-2013, 08:45 PM

This issue is certainly not losing any steam. I just logged a bunch of new entries (including some 2014 models) and it seems Toyota/Subaru are still in the dark.

In the words of Yogi Berra, "It's deja vu all over again."

11-15-2013, 02:49 PM	#2692
Nothing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: FRS Location: NC Posts: 266 Thanks: 100 Thanked 77 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well here is the new intake cam actuator. This should be the cure to my CEL. I'll do my best to take pictures of the repair. I'm really interested in how this thing works. And how it might have failed to cause this issue. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________

11-22-2013, 04:14 PM	#2701
JNovo79 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: '13 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Chicago - Edgewater Posts: 31 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ugh, mine has been dipping at idle... guess I'm calling the dealership. Fuck. Without going through this entire thread... anyone know how good/bad North Side Toyota/Scion (Chicago) is? __________________ '13 FR-S Daily Driver -- '11 Sierra 1500 Tow B*tch -- '07 Suzuki SV 650 Race Bike 2011 & 2013 CCS Midwest Thunderbike Champ

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11-15-2013, 01:08 PM	#2691
Eddie Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Black BRZ Sport-Tech (auto) Location: Coronado Posts: 24 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	ECU replaced yesterday. Had "crickets" when I pulled into the dealership for the repair so I didn't have to convince the tech to order me a new HPFP. Should have that replaced next week. I'll let you all know if I encounter any issues with the new ECU module.

11-15-2013, 06:13 PM	#2693
Nhil Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 70 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is there any confirmation or evidence that this is affecting a certain build date?

11-16-2013, 12:21 AM	#2694
vubaru Now with Boost! Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Ltd. Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 415 Thanks: 281 Thanked 424 Times in 257 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Another update to my continuing P0014/P0017/P0019/P000B/C1201/SL/CEL Saga: The AVO kit has been off the car for about a month now. With the kit off, the car was still CELing and idle shaking/stalling like mad. It was almost like taking the kit off made no difference for the amount of CELs and rough idle/stalling problems I was having. Then Diablo Subaru warrantied the other side OCV assembly and an O-ring with ECUtek uninstalled off the ECU. Turning the car back to stock appeared to be a good idea to get this done. The ECU does not appear to have been flashed but I can't tell for sure. The car has been CEL/DTC/Idle stall/SL free for about 1400 miles. There is a slight idle drop lag, but the extremely rough idle and idle stall issues are gone. I still hear the chirp and feel a slight uneasiness in the drivetrain when I shift into neutral and drop the RPMs, but the last aspect could just be paranoia. We'll see what happens. Given all the crap that's happened to my BRZ so far and everything else in thread, I'm not holding my breath, but I'm praying. @Nhil Diablo's service ticket said my issues happened more frequently with "very low numbers", presumably VIN #'s i.e. early builds, like mine. Vin 0023XX

11-16-2013, 07:18 AM	#2695
Snowblind Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: SE Posts: 424 Thanks: 25 Thanked 490 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota replaced my VVTI Cam thinking that would solve the problem. They drove it a few miles down the road and the engine popped another CEL. I already started the Lemon Law process, so hopefully I'll be in a new FR-S by the end of the year, or early next year.

11-16-2013, 03:27 PM	#2697
ron_n_tx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S - Ultramarine Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 162 Thanks: 99 Thanked 68 Times in 50 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	CEL/SL on @ 1425 miles. The service advisor says it is a cam sensor warning and has to contact Toyota on Monday. Hope it gets resolved soon.

11-20-2013, 11:01 AM	#2700
Snowblind Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: SE Posts: 424 Thanks: 25 Thanked 490 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota still doesn't know how to fix my vehicle. They were told to start pulling parts off of another customer's vehicle (in for repair for unrelated reasons). If you drive a black FR-S that's in for throwout bearing repairs you should know they are taking parts off of your car to diagnose mine.

11-25-2013, 08:45 PM	#2702
eurospeed Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: CT Posts: 65 Thanks: 502 Thanked 113 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This issue is certainly not losing any steam. I just logged a bunch of new entries (including some 2014 models) and it seems Toyota/Subaru are still in the dark. In the words of Yogi Berra, "It's deja vu all over again."

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