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VerusEric · 04-27-2015, 04:01 PM

You guys are way tooo much.

In the mail, should be here in the next few days.

fika84 · 04-27-2015, 04:08 PM

Thanks for the update!

himbo · 05-02-2015, 12:15 PM

Can't wait to see what the results are for this!

VerusEric · 05-02-2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by himbo

Can't wait to see what the results are for this!

We're right there with you. Prototypes take a lot longer than anticipated... every... single... time. These were suppose to be done at the end of February.

Anyway, we are hopeful to make it up to you guys with billet pron. Something to start off your mid-weekend right

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himbo · 05-02-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NotEric6

We're right there with you. Prototypes take a lot longer than anticipated... every... single... time. These were suppose to be done at the end of February.

Anyway, we are hopeful to make it up to you guys with billet pron. Something to start off your mid-weekend right

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Very nice! It almost looks like a redesigned version of the Crawford Powerblocks, but I'm guessing that's just the bottom portion of it. Can't wait to see the whole thing! Any chance you can send out prototypes for composite 3D printing - or are you past that stage?

VerusEric · 05-02-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by himbo

Very nice! It almost looks like a redesigned version of the Crawford Powerblocks, but I'm guessing that's just the bottom portion of it. Can't wait to see the whole thing! Any chance you can send out prototypes for composite 3D printing - or are you past that stage?

I guess I should have mentioned what part of the intake manifold this was. This is the head flange and runners component, bolted onto the plenum floor flange.

We are well past that point. Also, 3D printing, while quicker, would have only allowed us to test fitment, and not actually running it on car for long. Fullblown ran into this problem with their intake manifold. We could have SLS'd the part but then you're talking about significant costs.

RJasonKlein · 05-03-2015, 12:23 AM

It's a beautiful piece, but you'd better hope those fasteners never back out due to vibration and get ingested into the combustion chamber! Admittedly, this looks less likely once the threaded velocity stacks are put in place, but it still looks like a potential hazard.

This is a very well thought out piece, so what am I missing?

Stumpygt86 · 05-03-2015, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Radley

Stock manifold doesn't run equal air distribution and the stock ecu mapping is offset on each cylinder to compensate for this. So technically each cylinder will now need mapping individually to make this run right. Cool looking product

So if one was to make ITB's then they would have to have them all as individual components so the runner length would remain constant?

Captain Snooze · 05-03-2015, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RJasonKlein

It's a beautiful piece, but you'd better hope those fasteners never back out due to vibration and get ingested into the combustion chamber! Admittedly, this looks less likely once the threaded velocity stacks are put in place, but it still looks like a potential hazard.

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Captain Snooze · 05-03-2015, 05:15 AM

What is the function of these 3 holes?
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steve99 · 05-03-2015, 05:52 AM

Ok it looks rearly nice but also looks expensive, two questions

What is final cost estimated to be

What power gains on NA or boosted car could be expected

ie what sort of hp\dollar are you looking at

On an NA car everyone seems to be maxing out at about 35whp or so gain ( about 205-210wHp a dynojet) , probably cause your just maxed out on volumetic efficiency at the 7600 or so rpm you can spin a stock motor to with safety.

On a boosted car you could probably just wind up the boost a couple of psi ?? to achieve gain.

Im guessing this is aimed at the high end NA build guy who is going to spend large sums on building an NA motor that will hopefully hang togeather at 8500 or something ?

Oposition intake manifold
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56850
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=56850&page=16

churchx · 05-03-2015, 08:14 AM

steve99: there might be another potential bit which would matter to me a lot, - if gains from this stack up with other installed bolt-on gains? This might be expensive, this might be not too much hp/buck .. but if it would allow +10hp above 35hp by other mods .. imho it would matter a lot.

raven1231 · 05-03-2015, 09:46 AM

Definitely agree. It looks wonderful but extremely expensive. I mean hell the full blown one is already a grand.

VerusEric · 05-03-2015, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

What is the function of these 3 holes?
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They are manifold ports. The 3 small ones accept 1/2" and 3/8" barb to -6AN ORB fittings. The larger is a crossover hose that will equalize any variation between the two plenums.

To those who are thinking about the dollar amount only. Please keep in mind this is a prototype that was made modular so we can test a multitude of configurations to come out with the best intake manifold we can. Everyone is guessing at best what this will cost, ourselves included.

Thanks,
Eric

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RJasonKlein Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S 10 Series Location: Clarendon Hills, IL Posts: 617 Thanks: 441 Thanked 356 Times in 202 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's a beautiful piece, but you'd better hope those fasteners never back out due to vibration and get ingested into the combustion chamber! Admittedly, this looks less likely once the threaded velocity stacks are put in place, but it still looks like a potential hazard. This is a very well thought out piece, so what am I missing? Last edited by RJasonKlein; 05-03-2015 at 12:27 AM. Reason: Corrected a typographical error.

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