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lupindub · 01-23-2016, 08:06 PM

So a few years ago a guy moved to Australia and brought his Ducati 848 along with him. Only problem was that he did not have an import permit. The government gave him a choice.. Either export the bike, get a permit and then re-import, or we squash your bike.

The guy chose to get his bike squashed, rather than go through all of the additional hassle.

Bureaucracy at it's finest.

Captain Snooze · 01-23-2016, 08:45 PM

I understand your sentiment but those are the rules. There are pages and pages of requirements for importing vehicles into Australia (and I imagine other countries). It says very plainly on the relevant page that failure to follow the regulations and paperwork will result in the above. I am suggesting that it is the owner's fault in this case for not following the required procedure.

mdm · 01-23-2016, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

There are pages and pages of requirements for importing vehicles into Australia (and I imagine other countries).

And not only vehicles. Remember Johnny Depp's dogs?

go_a_way1 · 01-23-2016, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mdm

And not only vehicles. Remember Johnny Depp's dogs?

You mean johny derp for thinking he was above the law lol!

cdrazic93 · 01-23-2016, 10:35 PM

Honestly, im too attached to vehicles to not go through the hasstle of importing one properly with the right paper work. Would have chosen option B but thats just me

TylerLieberman · 01-23-2016, 10:53 PM

That's one expensive bike to just have crushed. I would get it if it was like an early 00s GSXR or something that wasn't worth more than a couple grand..

But a Ducati 848? Seriously? I wish I had 15k to just flush down a toilet lol

Lonewolf · 01-23-2016, 11:54 PM

Governments showing no ability to make wise use of resources (salvagable parts/auction the bike to someone overseas)...shocking

reni · 01-24-2016, 11:58 PM

I don't understand why:

1) The gubment couldn't just let him keep the bike in storage as long as he wasn't driving it

2) He couldn't just put an ad on craigslist for a free bike for anyone willing to go through with the hassle? I guess he was one of those kids who would rather break their toys than let anyone else play with them...

LOLS2K · 01-25-2016, 12:09 AM

Couldn't he just stick it in his living room (unregistered) as a decoration?

Edit: Murica

nzer · 01-25-2016, 12:25 AM

@supra2nv

Captain Snooze · 01-25-2016, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by reni

I don't understand why:

1) The gubment couldn't just let him keep the bike in storage as long as he wasn't driving it
As stated above because that's the law here.

2) He couldn't just put an ad on craigslist for a free bike for anyone willing to go through with the hassle? I guess he was one of those kids who would rather break their toys than let anyone else play with them...
Or maybe he couldn't afford to have sent back overseas. The bike was already here, in his name, illegally. The bike had either go back overseas or be destroyed. There were no other choices.

It's laid out in black and white. You fail to follow procedure you don't get your vehicle. The guy was an idiot. You don't have to like it but this is the way it is.

"If you ship your vehicle before receiving an approval and your vehicle arrives before the application is
processed, you may incur storage costs from the shipping company/freight forwarder. You may also be open
to prosecution, as it is an offence to import a vehicle without an Import Approval.
Importation takes place when a vehicle has landed within the port of intended discharge and not once the
vehicle clears customs control. If the import application is not approved, you will have to either export the
vehicle or have it destroyed at your own expense. Destruction will need to take place under Customs
supervision."
http://www.movemetoaustralia.net/upl...cle_Import.pdf

Irace86 · 01-25-2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

That's one expensive bike to just have crushed. I would get it if it was like an early 00s GSXR or something that wasn't worth more than a couple grand..

But a Ducati 848? Seriously? I wish I had 15k to just flush down a toilet lol

All I see are Termis. Probably worth under $10k, but still a chunk of change.

Irace86 · 01-25-2016, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by reni

I don't understand why:

1) The gubment couldn't just let him keep the bike in storage as long as he wasn't driving it

2) He couldn't just put an ad on craigslist for a free bike for anyone willing to go through with the hassle? I guess he was one of those kids who would rather break their toys than let anyone else play with them...

The vehicle may have been at a tow yard racking up $150/day, and who knows how much paperwork and money and time it would have taken to get it back. Maybe his insurance would consider this totaled

RichardsFRS · 01-25-2016, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reni

I don't understand why:

1) The gubment couldn't just let him keep the bike in storage as long as he wasn't driving it

2) He couldn't just put an ad on craigslist for a free bike for anyone willing to go through with the hassle? I guess he was one of those kids who would rather break their toys than let anyone else play with them...

Because its not the govts obligation to compromise with you; it is their obligation to put you in front of an iron curtain

01-23-2016, 08:06 PM	#1
lupindub Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Michigan Posts: 285 Thanks: 228 Thanked 95 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	This hurts my soul... So a few years ago a guy moved to Australia and brought his Ducati 848 along with him. Only problem was that he did not have an import permit. The government gave him a choice.. Either export the bike, get a permit and then re-import, or we squash your bike. The guy chose to get his bike squashed, rather than go through all of the additional hassle. Bureaucracy at it's finest.

01-23-2016, 08:45 PM	#2
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