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[HKz]

please toyota please, give us the most amazing car for compact car money!! everything needs to be perfect!

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Exactly. Car in first, clutch pushed in, eyes all around ready to go. 100s of thousands of miles driven this way, wouldn't do it any other method.

This is, in theory, illegal in the UK. You're taught to put in neutral and, ideally, handbrake up. You'd fail your test if you didn't. The idea, so I've been told, is that if you were rear ended with your foot on the clutch, the forward motion would release the clutch and you'd then power into the rear of the car in front. In general the traffic here is going to be worse due to the density of car users, but it's good sound practice...... not that anyone really sticks to it after the test though.

[Sasquachulator]

dont you put it in neutral to give your legs a rest....?

[DarkPira7e]

Just to contribute, I also rest with transmission in neutral and my foot off of the clutch pedal. I've done this since I learned to drive standard and have several cars with several hundred thousand miles on them.

I was taught to do this so that your car does not become a weapon should your foot come off the clutch pedal and you lose consciousness. Better to sound stupid with your car at redline because you had a heart attack than to have it start accelerating until 1st gear's redline in my opinion

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

The idea, so I've been told, is that if you were rear ended with your foot on the clutch, the forward motion would release the clutch and you'd then power into the rear of the car in front. .

Not sure how much you would power into the car in front of you since it would likely stall out the second you dumped the clutch. Do they also require you to put an AT in neutral? The risk is much greater there I would think. Then again there are lots of things that would fail a driving test that people do every day so....

I think either approach is valid, and has its strengths and weaknesses.

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

dont you put it in neutral to give your legs a rest....?

You must have a really heavy clutch! It's no different than keeping your foot on the brake to me.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

I was taught to do this so that your car does not become a weapon should your foot come off the clutch pedal and you lose consciousness.

Again, this is much more likely with an AT. Go in a parking lot and try it with your MT sometime. Sit there at idle and drop you foot off the clutch, see what happens and report back.

I'm assuming, of course, that in the process of having your heart attack you don't manage to perform a perfect clutch dump launch subconsciously.

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Again, this is much more likely with an AT. Go in a parking lot and try it with your MT sometime. Sit there at idle and drop you foot off the clutch, see what happens and report back.

I'm assuming, of course, that in the process of having your heart attack you don't manage to perform a perfect clutch dump launch subconsciously.

On snow or ice, the car most definitely will not stall and will move forward. I'm not saying that it is a perfect solution, but just like not using an umbrella in a thunderstorm, it's just to take a precaution.

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Again, this is much more likely with an AT. Go in a parking lot and try it with your MT sometime. Sit there at idle and drop you foot off the clutch, see what happens and report back.

I'm assuming, of course, that in the process of having your heart attack you don't manage to perform a perfect clutch dump launch subconsciously.

I think the line of thinking here is that if you're hit in the back, your car has sudden forward motion so that popping the clutch will not stall the engine.

[WildCard600]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Not sure how much you would power into the car in front of you since it would likely stall out the second you dumped the clutch. Do they also require you to but an AT in neutral? The risk is much greater there I would think. Then again there are lots of things that would fail a driving test that people do every day so....

I think either approach is valid, and has its strengths and weaknesses.



You must have a really heavy clutch! It's no different than keeping your foot on the brake to me.

[WildCard600]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

I think the line of thinking here is that if you're hit in the back, your car has sudden forward motion so that popping the clutch will not stall the engine.

Why is it not taught to shift an automatic into neutral ? 99% of the cars on the road are AT.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by WildCard600

Why is it not taught to shift an automatic into neutral ? 99% of the cars on the road are AT.

They should. My parents friend ran into someone that had a heart attack and costed into the intersection. But I don't think that is the point here, it's mostly for post-collision safety.

Coincidentally, I remember reading somewhere that some (most, all?) modern cars apply braking pressure if they sense a collision over a certain threshold, possibly based on airbag deployment. Not sure what source or how reliable it is. I guess that doesn't say whether it's safer to be in neutral or not, but just added context.

[86MLR]

Manual: When stopped, out of gear, handbrake on.

Auto: When stopped, in neutral, handbrake on (because of cam I need a high stall, when I put it in gear it squats "really" hard)

[Red-86]

What has it come to when we get more posts about post-heart attack collision safety than about how awesome a new sportscar should be to actually drive?

[WildCard600]

Originally Posted by Red-86

What has it come to when we get more posts about post-heart attack collision safety than about how awesome a new sportscar should be to actually drive?

The previous 119 pages seem to disagree with you.