Still can't decide on AT or MT for your first FRS/BRZ? This may help...

[86MLR]

I just like poking things with sticks

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Will BRZ

Might as well get the last word in this useless argument no? Get a win for us and take down those old, elitist, manual transmission driving idiots lol



Seriously though, this is a waste of time. I don’t know what being a millennial has to do with anything. Like I said before, people have their own preferences and driving styles and it has nothing to do with age or whatever. Get what you want and shut up about it.

Age absolutely has something to do with it. Autos have improved dramatically over time and are becoming the preferred transmission to the point that the manual is becoming extinct. Many younger people don’t even have parents that have driven a manual. Using the term millennial in a derogatory way is silly though. There is nothing wrong with someone driving an auto. The only thing wrong is calling someone stupid for their transmission preference.

In a perfect world people would understand that the modern auto outperforms the manual but also understand that some people find the manual more enjoyable regardless of the technical drawbacks. In a perfect world the manual would always be an option but that just isn’t realistic. Especially with the younger generation (statistically) not being interested in them.

And for the love of god would people who have literally never driven a manual stop saying stupid stuff like “okay so you’re soooo superior to me because you can move a little stick around”. Half the time they make comments like that the manual guy never even said he was superior. It’s like the whole world has an inferiority complex these days.

One other thing. Why are AT drivers so defensive? Your transmission of choice isn’t one the chopping block. As an MT guy isn’t just annoying as hell to see AT guys to be so defensive and constantly remind me that my transmission of choice is becoming extinct when they have literally nothing to loose if it doesn’t go extinct. It seems more like they are too concerned about how other people view them and aren’t defending the transmission but their choices. Who cares if people say silly crap like your aren’t a man if you have an auto.

[bcj]

Originally Posted by soundman98

ok... what exactly is that, other than a fancy way to slice fingers?

MIL-SPEC can opener. Quite effective actually. If you see one in the field, grab it if you can.

The battery lasts a really long time.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Have you posted a picture of your new machine yet? If so, where? If not, why not?

humfrz

Which machine are you referring to?

[MilkyWitness]

I sometimes wish I got the AT. I get really tired of driving MT in traffic, and I just get really lazy sometimes when I just wanna go to the store or drive to work in the morning. If they had offered it with the PP I would have taken it. Perhaps next gen they will and I'll upgrade to that. But I do love yeeting the MT in the backroads, downshifting is just so satisfying.

[Remark00]

Sorry for this being a little off topic but I can not find where else to to ask. What do you guys think about buying a BRZ with a open valve spring recall? Would that be to much of a risk?


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[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Which machine are you referring to?

Oh, DANG, my condition is getting worse - I got you mixed up with Dadillac -

Sorry bout that -


humfrz - I think?????????????

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Remark00

Sorry for this being a little off topic but I can not find where else to to ask. What do you guys think about buying a BRZ with a open valve spring recall? Would that be to much of a risk?


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Well, I'm driving an FR-S with an open valve spring recall -


humfrz

[Remark00]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, I'm driving an FR-S with an open valve spring recall -





humfrz

I guess that’s good to hear. Maybe I might end up getting this car if I can get it for the right price.


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[why?]

Originally Posted by Remark00

I guess that’s good to hear. Maybe I might end up getting this car if I can get it for the right price.


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no one should do the recall, it is a waste of time.

[Remark00]

Originally Posted by why?

no one should do the recall, it is a waste of time.

Yeah true, I can not find any case of a valve spring failing.


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[mrg666]

Originally Posted by why?

no one should do the recall, it is a waste of time.

finally, someone said that!

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Remark00

I guess that’s good to hear. Maybe I might end up getting this car if I can get it for the right price.


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Yep, I figure that the chances of my car's engine going "bang" because of a failed OEM valve spring are less that it going bad because of a screwed up repair job.

Note: In Washington, the recall doesn't have to be done to re-register the car.

Also, the worst case, if I don't have the recall work done, is that the valve spring(s) give out and the engine stops running. I've had engines die before and I've always managed to muscle them off to the side of the road.

Besides, since the recall doesn't have a expiration date, if the car locks up on me, I'll have it towed to the closest dealer and have them fix it -

Then I will rent a Mustang and continue my journey -


humfrz

[Remark00]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Yep, I figure that the chances of my car's engine "bang" because of a failed valve spring are less that it going bad because of a screwed up repair.



Note: In Washington, the recall doesn't have to be done to re-register the car.



Also, the worst case, if I don't have the recall work done, is that the valve spring(s) give out and the engine stops running. I've had engines die before and I've always managed to muscle them off to the side of the road.



Besides, since the recall doesn't have a recall expiration date, if the car locks up on me, I'll have it towed to the closest dealer and have them fix it -



Then I will rent a Mustang and continue my journey -





humfrz

Ah, I did not know about the no expectation date. That’s good to know. And about that mustang, watch out for crowds a mustangs rival and worst enemy.


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