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Old 08-16-2016, 05:47 PM   #15
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But you forget one very important thing, to make the battery for your EV car at day one already has the carbon footprint of a normal car with 80K miles on it...............
Yeah, on planet "I believe bullshit - shovel it into my brain" it does. Time for you to switch your news sources.
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Hey there not calling you on it or anything, but If there's an article on this or something that talks about it, I like to read it. It seems very interesting! argument against an electric car, and I don't see many interesting arguments.

I don't have a for or against on electric cars. It's just something weird to get used to. Not sure but do they even make manual electric cars?
I really appreciate the difference in our responses to the anti-EV claim.
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But you forget one very important thing, to make the battery for your EV car at day one already has the carbon footprint of a normal car with 80K miles on it...............
First of all, I'm not too concerned about the environmental impact of electric cars. I was commenting on how people who try to do something good are looked down on for it because it's "different". And how anything that was ever near a hybrid or electric car has been pussified even if it's faster than "fast" cars. Also I don't know about your 80,000 miles comment. Seems excessive and slathered in propaganda
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According to a very reliable and reputable website Toyota and BMW will have an electric sports car by next year. Some thing called a Supra. Sounds right on the money to me

http://www.motoring.com.au/bmw-supra-takes-shape-44966/
If that article is true, there's a decent chance I'll be buying one. Then again, I'd far prefer a pure EV. I view the internal combustion engine as dead weight. Give me a version with 500+HP and 120 miles range. Please. I don't need all the Tesla range dead weight slowing me down. It's a sports car. I'm not going far.
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:14 PM   #19
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I like trees, but we don't have a physical relationship. I generate a lot of carbon with my little race cars, but I'm not threatened by electric cars. they make sense and I know that they can be fast and fun to work on so bring em on!


I was looking at a Leaf and if Nissan Japan had a leasing system that made sense I would have leased one. My car buddies thought I had given up on sports cars. No. Not all my cars have to be alpha type death machines. My BRZ is still stock and I love it. I would have loved a Leaf too.


If they put more cars like these into production, sooner before later I will have one.


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Old 08-16-2016, 06:59 PM   #20
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It would be way down the line, but could you imagine an all electric BRZ or STI ?


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/subaru...160853898.html
This is funny. We need to get our central AC replaced and the sales guy was here just now and was excited to see my BRZ. He's a "car guy" and told me (straight face) that the BRZ was originally going to be an electric car but that the styling, which was done for aerodynamic efficiency, was too sporty and wouldn't have appealed to the average electric car buyer. So then, he said, they were going to do a 425HP twin turbo version, but that would have been too expensive.

Good thing the shop he works for is reputable...
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I like trees, but we don't have a physical relationship. I generate a lot of carbon with my little race cars, but I'm not threatened by electric cars. they make sense and I know that they can be fast and fun to work on so bring em on!


I was looking at a Leaf and if Nissan Japan had a leasing system that made sense I would have leased one. My car buddies thought I had given up on sports cars. No. Not all my cars have to be alpha type death machines. My BRZ is still stock and I love it. I would have loved a Leaf too.


If they put more cars like these into production, sooner before later I will have one.


I don't know what that thing is but I'd drive the fuck out of it
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Citroen Survolt


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Oh, it's only 1.8m. I guess I'll be picking one or two of these up next time I swing by France. Anyone else need anything whole I'm over there?
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Piff, you guys. You want power and range, modify a golf cart. Look up the crazy shit you can do now.
Oh wait... You want that bling and status symbol, never mind.
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Piff, you guys. You want power and range, modify a golf cart. Look up the crazy shit you can do now.
Oh wait... You want that bling and status symbol, never mind.
Bling as in cool race car? Yes. Status? No. Idgaf
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Hey there not calling you on it or anything, but If there's an article on this or something that talks about it, I like to read it. It seems very interesting! argument against an electric car, and I don't see many interesting arguments.

I don't have a for or against on electric cars. It's just something weird to get used to. Not sure but do they even make manual electric cars?
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Yeah, on planet "I believe bullshit - shovel it into my brain" it does. Time for you to switch your news sources.
http://www.alternativesjournal.ca/en...r-really-green

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...46913994914472

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/new-...bon-footprint/

http://blog.wegowise.com/2012-06-26-...-electric-cars

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/ho...ironment-know/

By the way......my first post was as a joke......but you keyboard warriors just had to be, well.......
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Fuck.

If this our future, I'd better start recording the sound my exhaust makes banging up and down the gears so it can play in the background while I'm listening to music behind the wheel of my 'letrit whooshmeister.

Fuck.
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I'll be honest, I didn't read all those articles and the few I looked at I skimmed. BUT I didn't see anything backing up your 80,000 mile claim. Can they have a bigger carbon footprint than normal cars? Yes, I never denied that. Is it as big as you say. I don't believe so
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