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mike the snake · 03-27-2014, 08:07 PM

I once used anoutfit called "Forward Air" to ship big heavy stuff.

They have depots near every big airport. You need to pick up at their depot, as they don't do door-to-door, but it was SOOOO cheap.

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Originally Posted by NickFRS

Must have..... Shipping a full block sounds expensive though...

xxscaxx · 03-27-2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS

Must have..... Shipping a full block sounds expensive though...

Its not as bad as you think. I shipped my motor out of a freight place near my house and it was like 150 bucks I think if that. You put it on a pallet and onto a truck. I wrapped it up and placed it on a tire, then on a pallet.

Tansey86 · 03-27-2014, 08:10 PM

Damn, thats some good head.

NickFRS · 03-27-2014, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx

Its not as bad as you think. I shipped my motor out of a freight place near my house and it was like 150 bucks I think if that. You put it on a pallet and onto a truck. I wrapped it up and placed it on a tire, then on a pallet.

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Originally Posted by mike the snake

I once used anoutfit called "Forward Air" to ship big heavy stuff.

They have depots near every big airport. You need to pick up at their depot, as they don't do door-to-door, but it was SOOOO cheap.

My bank acount is going to hate u 2.... Time to call around and get general quotes.

FullBlown · 03-27-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I don't suppose dyno charts would follow? Stock vs. New Heads?

Sorry nothing yet, but very soon.

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Originally Posted by arghx7

Can we get some kind of baseline comparison with the stock heads, preferably overlaid with the stock lift profile? You're listing at .500 inches of lift and I don't even know if the stock cams have that much lift.

I will get a chart up in a few days.

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Originally Posted by mike the snake

Is this like your shortblocks, where we send in our heads as cores, or is this price for the pair of heads outright?

Very tempting, for 6 grand I could have a total monnster!

Reground cams would require custom shimming, correct?

I need to get my car sorted out as it is first though.

We would need your cores, and yes shimming is required. We can offer that service too.

We can also offer full long blocks ready to drop in. We have done a few of those already.

FullBlown · 03-27-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by woode

+1 on cams..
any discounts if ordered with your guys' short block as well?

It is a possibility but to be honest, there really isn't much room left.

MoogDiesel · 03-27-2014, 10:35 PM

Soon...SOOOOOOOOOnnnnnn!!!!

Going broke in 2015.........Keep it up FBM!!!

Dimman · 03-27-2014, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FullBlown

We might have a car here that we will be testing for NA pretty soon. I don't think the FBM IM will be required but we will test all sorts of combinations when they are done.

What pressure are those cfm from?

Standard 28" Water Column?

Sportsguy83 · 03-27-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FullBlown

It is for a pair of heads

1 great head is awesome...

But then FBM is giving us two...

Dimman · 03-27-2014, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by arghx7

Can we get some kind of baseline comparison with the stock heads, preferably overlaid with the stock lift profile? You're listing at .500 inches of lift and I don't even know if the stock cams have that much lift.

I missed this, but totally agree. That's 12.7mm lift, and I doubt stock is much more than 8.5mm.

So not too relevant information without more data. In all honesty, less than a 10% gain on the intake at such high lift doesn't give me high expectations. I can hope at least that they don't kill much velocity so there's that...

midnight23 · 03-28-2014, 02:38 AM

what would be the additional core cost if we didn't want to send ours in?

FullBlown · 03-28-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by midnight23

what would be the additional core cost if we didn't want to send ours in?

$1300 for the core if you want to keep yours. That would be just for the head without rockers, cam plates ect ect. Just like how you see it in the pics.

Calum · 03-28-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

I missed this, but totally agree. That's 12.7mm lift, and I doubt stock is much more than 8.5mm.

So not too relevant information without more data. In all honesty, less than a 10% gain on the intake at such high lift doesn't give me high expectations. I can hope at least that they don't kill much velocity so there's that...

Agreed. The stock numbers aren't bad assuming their taken at 28", but I was hoping there'd be more room for improvements.

Coheed · 03-28-2014, 04:17 PM

305 is pretty good. This is slightly better than K20s I've had flowed. Granted, those can see really amazing flow rates with a good amount of work. this looks like a very streetable setup that should prove reliable with a modest bump in power. Cams will gain a lot. These cams are probably a 250* with 8-9mm lift if I had to guess. Here's hoping for a ~270* with 11mm for a street cam that's aggressive. Should be able to dial out some lope. Not really sure how this engine will react to this because this is my first subaru.

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Coheed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 813 Thanks: 209 Thanked 225 Times in 157 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	305 is pretty good. This is slightly better than K20s I've had flowed. Granted, those can see really amazing flow rates with a good amount of work. this looks like a very streetable setup that should prove reliable with a modest bump in power. Cams will gain a lot. These cams are probably a 250* with 8-9mm lift if I had to guess. Here's hoping for a ~270* with 11mm for a street cam that's aggressive. Should be able to dial out some lope. Not really sure how this engine will react to this because this is my first subaru.

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