Pure Pricing & Dealer Installed Options (Markup) loophole - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Veloist · 08-23-2012, 11:57 PM

Just a reminder for anyone who is actually interested in buying an FR-S with the dealer installed options like leather seats, rims, tinted windows, etc.

The Pure Pricing definitely refers to the sticker price of the car. For instance, today we were about to buy an FR-S for about 25,300. A while later the financial manager tells us that they need to sell it with the options that they haven't installed yet. The main point is that the car was not 25,300 but instead 33k-34k.

We went to another dealership a few miles away which had an FR-S with leather, $3995 premium.

Long story short, we were still able to haggle our way to a better price, we haggled the 34k one down to 30,400 and the one with leather which was 28,600 was haggled down into 27k flat.

It appears that dealerships that once sold for MSRP are now jumping on the "accessorization" bandwagon. If you're desperate to buy one, don't be afraid to haggle with the accessories!

(Btw, I'm still on the look out for MSRP only

)

ruskymx · 08-24-2012, 12:05 AM

If you were only on the other coast...

Jeff Lange · 08-24-2012, 12:07 AM

Very rarely do I ever want dealer-installed accessories on the car. Give it to me the way it came off the truck please!

Jeff

Tanuki · 08-24-2012, 01:30 AM

Yeah that dealer crap should actually lower the vehicle price. Well, unless they lower it on some te37's

Veloist · 08-24-2012, 01:44 AM

especially when some of the crap wheels cost the same or more than te37's...today I called a dealership and they had 4995 "premium" 19 inch wheels

Tigranakert · 08-24-2012, 01:55 AM

I would say navigation would be better installed by the dealer as you know it would not screw up anything.

rice_classic · 08-24-2012, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist

(Btw, I'm still on the look out for MSRP only

)

The dealer I bought from will do that for you... but they're in Renton WA.

86_ZN6 · 08-24-2012, 02:26 AM

which dealer/s in the bay marks their prices up?

just curious!

Veloist · 08-24-2012, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86_ZN6

which dealer/s in the bay marks their prices up?

just curious!

Haha...I can't name them all but out of like 25ish dealerships I only know that One Toyota and City Toyota sells for MSRP. I've looked on Autotrader, and made calls to dealers who list MSRP but say "we have wheels coming blah blah"

I even looked at SoCal sites today, and I want to say the average price for all available FR-S's is about in the 29k range.

86_ZN6 · 08-24-2012, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veloist

Haha...I can't name them all but out of like 25ish dealerships I only know that One Toyota and City Toyota sells for MSRP. I've looked on Autotrader, and made calls to dealers who list MSRP but say "we have wheels coming blah blah"

I even looked at SoCal sites today, and I want to say the average price for all available FR-S's is about in the 29k range.

my dealership sells at MSRP.

some cars had port installed options but still MSRP

brian_c_m · 08-24-2012, 04:53 AM

Damn.... I wish our prices over here were that low!!

I finally picked up my 86 on Tuesday night but I had to drive 416km (260 miles) to get one of the very few 86's here in South Africa. The high spec model was only realeased mid August so stocks are extremely limited at the moment. Anyway, final price on the vehicle here came to ZAR334k. (Approx. 40100 USD) And that's just for the stock high spec manual. I plan on getting the windows tinted a bit darker and also getting the TRD bootlip spoiler at a later date. So I'll be shopping around for best prices too. But as for the other extras that are available on the TRD shopping list, I'll give them a skip. The car looks great as is! :-)

86_ZN6 · 08-24-2012, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian_c_m

Damn.... I wish our prices over here were that low!!

our cars are cheap because we get the lowest spec trim here.. we dont get all the goodies that the 86 has

brian_c_m · 08-24-2012, 06:13 AM

Ah! Thanks for that, ZN6. In that case I'm not too upset :-)

digital_assassin · 08-24-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

Very rarely do I ever want dealer-installed accessories on the car. Give it to me the way it came off the truck please!

Jeff

@Jeff Lange - Ummm...

http://jeff.supramania.com/scion_frs/

Jus sayin. I will admit what you are building is pretty classy but dang, can't even begin to fathom what you will be selling that for.

Is it done yet? If you want me to remove the link just say the word and I'll take it down since I just robbed the URL from a photo you posted.

08-23-2012, 11:57 PM	#1
Veloist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ‘93 MR2, ‘22 GR86, ‘23 GR Corolla Location: N. California Posts: 1,525 Thanks: 700 Thanked 1,713 Times in 668 Posts Mentioned: 75 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pure Pricing & Dealer Installed Options (Markup) loophole Just a reminder for anyone who is actually interested in buying an FR-S with the dealer installed options like leather seats, rims, tinted windows, etc. The Pure Pricing definitely refers to the sticker price of the car. For instance, today we were about to buy an FR-S for about 25,300. A while later the financial manager tells us that they need to sell it with the options that they haven't installed yet. The main point is that the car was not 25,300 but instead 33k-34k. We went to another dealership a few miles away which had an FR-S with leather, $3995 premium. Long story short, we were still able to haggle our way to a better price, we haggled the 34k one down to 30,400 and the one with leather which was 28,600 was haggled down into 27k flat. It appears that dealerships that once sold for MSRP are now jumping on the "accessorization" bandwagon. If you're desperate to buy one, don't be afraid to haggle with the accessories! (Btw, I'm still on the look out for MSRP only)

08-24-2012, 12:05 AM	#2
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08-24-2012, 12:07 AM	#3
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