Why Scion FR-S Sales Have Plunged

[EAGLE5]

Tadasan said in some interview that they went for the boxer so they could keep the low-hood sportscar look while still meeting new pedestrian crash laws. This is actually a big deal, though many cars are now using a system then raises the hood in a pedestrian crash. Look around and you'll see most cars sporting bulbous front ends, proving his point.

Insurance rates have far more to do with the driver than the car. When I asked for quotes on multiple cars from my insurance guy, he pointed out that all the quotes he'd given me before were pretty much the same.

[PhantomX]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Tadasan said in some interview that they went for the boxer so they could keep the low-hood sportscar look while still meeting new pedestrian crash laws. This is actually a big deal, though many cars are now using a system then raises the hood in a pedestrian crash. Look around and you'll see most cars sporting bulbous front ends, proving his point.

This is true. There is a standard in Europe that requires vehicles' front ends to be at a certain height design so that if you were to hit a pedestrian, there's less likely of a chance of killing them. I have no idea how that works, but that's just how it is. And manufacturers obviously have to meet those standards even if other countries don't have such standards since most manufacturers wouldn't be willing to spend extra money to have vehicles designed just for a specific continent when they can just rebadge and rename them.

[jdd]

I take any report written on the twins, that includes a reference to a Ford Mustang being a better choice, to be biased.

You really can't compare the two.

[TOMIMOTO]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Interesting, I thought all Impreza's had nearly terminal understeer, even a tuned up 2.5RS struggled to exceed 0.8 g on the skidpad back in the day, sure an improvement today with better tires but unlikely to be massive unless you go to non-street tires...

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...o-specs-page-4

I wouldn't exactly call my car stock. 0.81g is what it does on the skid pad in stock trim.

Originally Posted by NOHOME

Without being rude...please clarify...

Why are you even here with 251 post when you don't like the car?

I love the car. I love Toyota and Subaru. It's just not what I wanted it to be.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Yup, it really comes down to how often it is wrecked and how much it costs to right things (fix the car, pay the medical bills, damages, etc.). Cars driven by people that regularly wreck, spectacularly, get higher rates. The capability of the car is maybe considered for the base rates, but the rates are quickly pulled into matching the actual condition once the insurance companies get some data. If we all drove the speed limit, wore our seatbelts, and somehow got hypnotized into thinking more like women as far as our risk taking, twin rates would be no different than any other $25k car.

That must not be happening. My son has his FR-S insured through State Farm. He is 24 and has never had an accident or ticket yet last month his insurance rates went up $10 per month. The explanation from State Farm was that the car was reclassified to a higher risk level.

[PhantomX]

Originally Posted by TOMIMOTO

I love the car. I love Toyota and Subaru. It's just not what I wanted it to be.

Then why linger over it?

It's like getting to know the person you like. You date them and start to get to know their likes and dislikes, their views, their plans for their future, etc. If they don't turn out to be what you were looking for, you move on.

[2much]

I just got this today:

[86geek]

Originally Posted by 2much

I just got this today:

LOL! I got one like that but for my other Scion which was sold to a relative when I bought my FRS.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by geek808@outlook.com

LOL! I got one like that but for my other Scion which was sold to a relative when I bought my FRS.

I just got one for my Lancer and it was traded in for the FRS! I doubt the "demand is high" for it either since the Mitsu lot and every used lot around it have about 5 each just sitting there.