Vortech Visconti tuned on ft86me

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by PERRIN_Mladen

All of our testing/proving has been done with the oil cooler in that position.

While this can increase the charge temperatures some amount, it's not enough to worry about.

During our dynoing, (less air flow than what we see on the road) our charge temperatures only got up to about 100F during some 13PSI runs.

I have been testing the same this past week. Oil temps and charge temps are under control with the oil cooler in front of the intercooler. I would say the oil temp plays a larger factor in performance than the charge temps.

The only issue I have with the Perrin cooler is that you guys need to design a protective grill for in front of it. I am having one custom made but it's at a prime location for damage.

[Adeets]

Originally Posted by ft86me

not at all. vortech is the company that will supply you the kit. rich and john will take your order and submit it. the rest is in the hands of vortech. rich and john have been pushing them to get things going faster, but vortech is currently backed up with all of the other orders as well replacement of older blowers. i'm not sure how i got mine in the time frame that I did, but i consider myself lucky. i just waited. that's all.

Did you get a chance to get it to a dyno yet? I know my "get it running and functional" map kicked my mpg right in the teeth, about 24mpg, had it like that for 2 days, and I was babying it. After the dyno tune the mpg is back up to 30-28.

[Jar]

Originally Posted by Brian@Vortech

Just a suggestion, but you might want to find another spot to mount the oil cooler. By placing it in front of the intercooler, you are only going to succeed in compromising the effectiveness of both units. I know the instructions on the Perrin oil cooler say to mount it in that spot, but they probably weren't thinking in terms of an intercooler being mounted directly behind it when they wrote those instructions.

I've always wondered, is there any easy way to mount the Perrin intercooler up top if you wanted to use a scoop to feed cool air to it?

[Evasive Motorsports]

Originally Posted by PERRIN_Mladen

All of our testing/proving has been done with the oil cooler in that position.

While this can increase the charge temperatures some amount, it's not enough to worry about.

During our dynoing, (less air flow than what we see on the road) our charge temperatures only got up to about 100F during some 13PSI runs.

I agree we tested it already on the track with the oil cooler on the front does not effect the temperatures at all.

[ft86me]

Originally Posted by Adeets

Did you get a chance to get it to a dyno yet? I know my "get it running and functional" map kicked my mpg right in the teeth, about 24mpg, had it like that for 2 days, and I was babying it. After the dyno tune the mpg is back up to 30-28.

i have not yet. i'm thinking about doing it in about two to three weeks. i have family from japan over right now so that comes first. after that, i'll be heading to the dyno and posting some goodies. hoping for some good numbers.

my mpg is currently at 22.9 but you can probably guess why hahahaha. 1. i love hearing it spool . 2. i love hearing the bpv 3. i love the power = bye bye fuel haha

[NCItaly]

Originally Posted by ft86me

i have not yet. i'm thinking about doing it in about two to three weeks. i have family from japan over right now so that comes first. after that, i'll be heading to the dyno and posting some goodies. hoping for some good numbers.

my mpg is currently at 22.9 but you can probably guess why hahahaha. 1. i love hearing it spool . 2. i love hearing the bpv 3. i love the power = bye bye fuel haha

how bout that dyno?








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[foursix86]

A larger capacity oil pan (~8 qts.) would negate the need for an oil cooler on most applications.

[Adeets]

Originally Posted by NCItaly

how bout that dyno?








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If he got ahold of visconti right before the fire it is prolly pushing 250-260, if he's still using the same tune he started with its between 230-240. Or maybe hes gone with a different tuner because his honey moon is over with visconti and he realizes his car isn't in safe hands... Then he's prolly making 260+ with out over reving the engine.

[nonicname]

glad to see it didn't catch on fire

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

I have been testing the same this past week. Oil temps and charge temps are under control with the oil cooler in front of the intercooler. I would say the oil temp plays a larger factor in performance than the charge temps.

The only issue I have with the Perrin cooler is that you guys need to design a protective grill for in front of it. I am having one custom made but it's at a prime location for damage.

Disagree here..
Intake air temps would make more of a performance factor than oil temps..
You want a hot engine and cool intake air for optimal engine output.
Oil temps need to be in check for reliablity.. Cooler intake air allows more fuel to
Be added for more power.. And helps keep keeps detonation in check

[Darryljr11]

Originally Posted by Adeets

If he got ahold of visconti right before the fire it is prolly pushing 250-260, if he's still using the same tune he started with its between 230-240. Or maybe hes gone with a different tuner because his honey moon is over with visconti and he realizes his car isn't in safe hands... Then he's prolly making 260+ with out over reving the engine.

Who are you using? What are your mods?

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

Disagree here..
Intake air temps would make more of a performance factor than oil temps..
You want a hot engine and cool intake air for optimal engine output.
Oil temps need to be in check for reliablity.. Cooler intake air allows more fuel to
Be added for more power.. And helps keep keeps detonation in check

I was referring to the Vortech kit with perrin oil cooler. Oil temps effected my setup more than charge temps in my case on the track.

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

I was referring to the Vortech kit with perrin oil cooler. Oil temps effected my setup more than charge temps in my case on the track.

Did you notice any ignition timing being pulled/extra fuel added when oil temps got to a certain threshold?

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by DJCarbine

Did you notice any ignition timing being pulled/extra fuel added when oil temps got to a certain threshold?

On track timing reduced -1.