I like turbo delay question - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

RaineyStar · 11-25-2014, 10:11 PM

The following might be riddled with nonsense but please educate me , thanks in advance, here goes
I know most ppl will probably disagree but
I like lag. Not in terms of throttle response , but i like the delay of boost only kicking in above ~5k rpm and BOOM! I like the idea of having the turbo being semi off and being docile while i m just cruising and having my car feel stock when driving regularly , basically what i m asking for is a really skewed top end powerband turbo , kinda like what aggressive cams would do

So far most kits do a amazing job smoothing out the curve / removing torque dip , but i just want a turbo that really changes the car in the higher rpm and pretty much keep it stock on the low rpms i never really go below 4k rpm during spirited driving anyways

Is this all the tune ? Or is there a kit/ big turbo out there for
edit
update ,
after gaining further understanding i now understand i need a controllable wastegate via ebcs, preferably with a recirculating bov a big turbine is prefered but not neccessary

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenMEj0cAC4"]How Turbochargers Work - YouTube[/ame] < this guy is great makes some of the most informative videos i think he should be featured on most forums lol
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48689< thanks for the info @pixel67

again thanks for all your inputs!

Teseo · 11-25-2014, 10:18 PM

Tune, probably a "big" turbine

Fizz · 11-25-2014, 10:42 PM

When you were younger did you like saying "VTEC just kicked in YO!!!"???

RaineyStar · 11-25-2014, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fizz

When you were younger did you like saying "VTEC just kicked in YO!!!"???

Lmaoo good one

Ultramaroon · 11-25-2014, 10:50 PM

Subbed for interesting question. Oversized yes, but...

Reaper · 11-25-2014, 10:57 PM

Check my build thread. My first tune went from 200 whp to 460whp in only 1000rpm. Very hard to control. That was with a manual boost controller. With an ebcs you could make it even worse.

midnight23 · 11-25-2014, 11:04 PM

full blown stage 2 with gtx35r seems to fit what you want.

RaineyStar · 11-25-2014, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper

Check my build thread. My first tune went from 200 whp to 460whp in only 1000rpm. Very hard to control. That was with a manual boost controller. With an ebcs you could make it even worse.

Beautiful car clean and tasteful , thumbs up

RaineyStar · 11-25-2014, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by midnight23

full blown stage 2 with gtx35r seems to fit what you want.

Again the kit is fantastic , but the midrange is still a bit too much for what im looking for , and i know what i want is ... Idiotic to most but i like the feeling of a power sleeper *

spitfire481 · 11-25-2014, 11:20 PM

A precision 6766 should have enough lag for you. Your goal for lag is kind of weird, opposite of what most look for lol

dabocx · 11-25-2014, 11:23 PM

Yeah if a GTX35 isnt laggy enough your going to have to look into a transmission swap because a turbo bigger than that is going to cause a host of issues

I think you would be happy with a gtx3076 or gtx3576.

rb6freak · 11-25-2014, 11:34 PM

What you are describing is torque, and a lot of girls I give rides to love that torque as well. What you are trying to achieve can be done with the right size turbo, WG spring, electronic boost controller, and having your tuner keep the timing mellow before that curve. My car has that kick at 4500 that pulls your head back - PTuning turbo kit.

Reaper · 11-25-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaineyStar

Beautiful car clean and tasteful , thumbs up

I think I have the most peak torque per peak hp than anyone on a stock engine. Might be wrong though. Gtx2867r. 393wtq 461whp.

midnight23 · 11-25-2014, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RaineyStar

Again the kit is fantastic , but the midrange is still a bit too much for what im looking for , and i know what i want is ... Idiotic to most but i like the feeling of a power sleeper *

what mid range? they made stock power till 5k rpm and then it wakes up, what kind of power are you actually looking to make?

11-25-2014, 10:11 PM	#1
RaineyStar Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Brz Location: Toronto Posts: 36 Thanks: 18 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like turbo delay question The following might be riddled with nonsense but please educate me , thanks in advance, here goes I know most ppl will probably disagree but I like lag. Not in terms of throttle response , but i like the delay of boost only kicking in above ~5k rpm and BOOM! I like the idea of having the turbo being semi off and being docile while i m just cruising and having my car feel stock when driving regularly , basically what i m asking for is a really skewed top end powerband turbo , kinda like what aggressive cams would do So far most kits do a amazing job smoothing out the curve / removing torque dip , but i just want a turbo that really changes the car in the higher rpm and pretty much keep it stock on the low rpms i never really go below 4k rpm during spirited driving anyways Is this all the tune ? Or is there a kit/ big turbo out there for edit update , after gaining further understanding i now understand i need a controllable wastegate via ebcs, preferably with a recirculating bov a big turbine is prefered but not neccessary [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenMEj0cAC4"]How Turbochargers Work - YouTube[/ame] < this guy is great makes some of the most informative videos i think he should be featured on most forums lol http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48689< thanks for the info @pixel67 again thanks for all your inputs! Last edited by RaineyStar; 11-26-2014 at 01:14 AM.

11-25-2014, 10:57 PM	#6
Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Check my build thread. My first tune went from 200 whp to 460whp in only 1000rpm. Very hard to control. That was with a manual boost controller. With an ebcs you could make it even worse. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

11-25-2014, 11:04 PM	#7
midnight23 dying bird under the hood Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 SWP Limited BRZ Location: Disneyland, California Posts: 1,331 Thanks: 546 Thanked 451 Times in 295 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	full blown stage 2 with gtx35r seems to fit what you want. __________________ GReddy Turbo BRZ tuned by Evasive Motorsports Build Thread Instagram

11-25-2014, 11:20 PM	#10
spitfire481 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2JZ FRS Location: Pure Automotive Performance Posts: 1,378 Thanks: 97 Thanked 1,354 Times in 621 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	A precision 6766 should have enough lag for you. Your goal for lag is kind of weird, opposite of what most look for lol __________________ Pure Automotive Performance MoTeC Build Thread @spitfire481

11-25-2014, 11:34 PM	#12
rb6freak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 23 BRZ Location: CA Posts: 539 Thanks: 545 Thanked 686 Times in 299 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What you are describing is torque, and a lot of girls I give rides to love that torque as well. What you are trying to achieve can be done with the right size turbo, WG spring, electronic boost controller, and having your tuner keep the timing mellow before that curve. My car has that kick at 4500 that pulls your head back - PTuning turbo kit. __________________ SecondGen \| FirstGen \| Instagram \| YouTube

11-25-2014, 10:18 PM	#2
Teseo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: frs Location: Gunsai Posts: 4,877 Thanks: 7,150 Thanked 2,922 Times in 1,769 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Tune, probably a "big" turbine

11-25-2014, 10:42 PM	#3
Fizz Senior Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 249 Thanked 336 Times in 215 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When you were younger did you like saying "VTEC just kicked in YO!!!"???

11-25-2014, 10:50 PM	#5
Ultramaroon 義理チョコ Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 31,869 Thanks: 52,132 Thanked 36,520 Times in 18,921 Posts Mentioned: 1107 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Subbed for interesting question. Oversized yes, but...

11-25-2014, 11:23 PM	#11
dabocx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: United States Posts: 1,267 Thanks: 564 Thanked 261 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah if a GTX35 isnt laggy enough your going to have to look into a transmission swap because a turbo bigger than that is going to cause a host of issues I think you would be happy with a gtx3076 or gtx3576.

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