Just took ownership of a new Camaro SS.....The BRZ will definitely be missed :/ - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

shattered_memory · 12-13-2016, 08:55 PM

After 3 years of ownership of my 2014 BRZ, it was time to say goodbye. The BRZ is definitely a special car, but after seeing good reviews on the new Camaro SS, I was very curious about it. From the 455 hp to the weight reduction, I just had to test drive one. In late November, I have taken ownership of a 2017 Hyper Blue Camaro 1ss with magnetic ride control:

In terms of power, the Camaro is a beast. The motor has tons of torque and the power is addicting. In terms of handling, it is not light and nimble as the BRZ, but the the Camaro feels more confident and stable in high speed corners. When throwing the Camaro into tight corners, you do feel the extra weight, but powering out of the corners is ridiculously fun. I would say it does handle the tight corners very well for a 3700 lb car, but the BRZ/FRS is more tossable because of its lighter weight. Steering feels just as precise as the BRZ (BRZ does have a bit more road feel) and steering feels nice and heavy once you put it in Track Mode. The BRZ/FRS steering is more on the lighter side. The main gripes that I have about the Camaro is poor visability and sitting up higher. I am going to miss the low COG the BRZ had.

Pic of the BRZ:

wbradley · 12-13-2016, 09:01 PM

My condolences LOL

track junkie · 12-13-2016, 09:12 PM

The SS should be an exciting change coming from the BRZ.
You should be able to lose your drivers license with ease now!
I give you one month. Enjoy it while you can.

olsonpg · 12-13-2016, 09:15 PM

I don't know what it is about the Camaro but i've never been able to get behind the new modern styling.

Reminds of a concept drawing that just got more and more awkward as the mechanical and safety engineers got to work.

I will say though, the 17 has done a great job taking the bulkier early models and trimming them up a bit.

NLSP · 12-13-2016, 09:17 PM

Congrats! It looks great in blue. Let's just hope you don't have regrets after the honeymoon phase like this guy did after he traded his twin for a Mustang GT

http://www.ft86club.com/forums//show....php?p=1772334

Mr.ac · 12-13-2016, 09:24 PM

Congrats, it's a good car. The only down side the next years model will look way better. It's just like buying a PC, you know the next years products are going to be better and faster.

Pretty much, I was in your shoes a few months ago, but I was unsure and didn't pull the trigger.

ryoma · 12-13-2016, 09:45 PM

do you notice the difference in how wide the Camaro is? I drove a buddies mustang and that thing was pretty wide to the point where I was having trouble judging where the edges of the car were. but then again, it probably was because I wasn't used to driving big cars (owned an MR2 and then the BRZ)

ToySub1946 · 12-14-2016, 01:05 AM

Sorry for your loss.

I have, though older, a Mustang GT. Never drive it anymore. Just not the fun that I get from my FRS.
Though my Mustang has lots of power, and a smooth as butter shifting Tremec trans, just does not handle curves like the 86 body.

Assume you are much younger than myself. I can understand wanting the muscle car experience. Have fun just going for it for now.

brzaapi · 12-14-2016, 07:33 AM

Congrats. I too was very much leaning the Camaro direction after losing my last BRZ to an accident. I test drove 3 different Camaros on 2 different days, and one time test drove a BRZ back to back with it. The Camaro has a lot of merits, and the engine is fantastic no doubt.

But, in the end the BRZ just fits me too well. My next one will be here soon and I will boost fairly quickly with an EB kit. Mind you this will be my 4th BRZ, so I know what i am getting into. But enjoy your Camaro, it is a great car. All the pros or cons are subjective on the driver, it just wasnt the dance partner for me.

DarkSunrise · 12-14-2016, 08:29 AM

Congrats, should be a fun car!

funwheeldrive · 12-14-2016, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLSP

Congrats! It looks great in blue. Let's just hope you don't have regrets after the honeymoon phase like this guy did after he traded his twin for a Mustang GT

http://www.ft86club.com/forums//show....php?p=1772334

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Sorry for your loss.

I have, though older, a Mustang GT. Never drive it anymore. Just not the fun that I get from my FRS.
Though my Mustang has lots of power, and a smooth as butter shifting Tremec trans, just does not handle curves like the 86 body.

Assume you are much younger than myself. I can understand wanting the muscle car experience. Have fun just going for it for now.

The Alpha Camaro SS is in a different league than the older Mustang GTs completely. The Mustang GT is a muscle car. The Camaro SS is a driver's car that also happens to be a muscle car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Congrats, it's a good car. The only down side the next years model will look way better. It's just like buying a PC, you know the next years products are going to be better and faster.

Newer models don't always look better than the original. Look at the MY17 86

Peaty · 12-14-2016, 10:15 AM

Congrats, I love the color. Best of luck with it.

Guru Woodman · 12-14-2016, 10:23 AM

Congrats, have fun with this different beast.

It's like congratulating a dog owner with his new cat

Summerwolf · 12-14-2016, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLSP

Congrats! It looks great in blue. Let's just hope you don't have regrets after the honeymoon phase like this guy did after he traded his twin for a Mustang GT

http://www.ft86club.com/forums//show....php?p=1772334

That's a mustang so..... Probably not.

OP - That is one helluva an upgrade. Don't listen to anyone on this forum who says otherwise.

12-13-2016, 08:55 PM	#1
shattered_memory Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: Satin White BRZ Limited Location: SOCAL Posts: 182 Thanks: 59 Thanked 60 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just took ownership of a new Camaro SS.....The BRZ will definitely be missed :/ After 3 years of ownership of my 2014 BRZ, it was time to say goodbye. The BRZ is definitely a special car, but after seeing good reviews on the new Camaro SS, I was very curious about it. From the 455 hp to the weight reduction, I just had to test drive one. In late November, I have taken ownership of a 2017 Hyper Blue Camaro 1ss with magnetic ride control: In terms of power, the Camaro is a beast. The motor has tons of torque and the power is addicting. In terms of handling, it is not light and nimble as the BRZ, but the the Camaro feels more confident and stable in high speed corners. When throwing the Camaro into tight corners, you do feel the extra weight, but powering out of the corners is ridiculously fun. I would say it does handle the tight corners very well for a 3700 lb car, but the BRZ/FRS is more tossable because of its lighter weight. Steering feels just as precise as the BRZ (BRZ does have a bit more road feel) and steering feels nice and heavy once you put it in Track Mode. The BRZ/FRS steering is more on the lighter side. The main gripes that I have about the Camaro is poor visability and sitting up higher. I am going to miss the low COG the BRZ had. Pic of the BRZ:

12-13-2016, 09:15 PM	#4
olsonpg Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: BRZ. R34 GT-T Location: Calgary Posts: 762 Thanks: 737 Thanked 613 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't know what it is about the Camaro but i've never been able to get behind the new modern styling. Reminds of a concept drawing that just got more and more awkward as the mechanical and safety engineers got to work. I will say though, the 17 has done a great job taking the bulkier early models and trimming them up a bit. __________________ / SARD / ENKEI / GREDDY / RACESENG / CUSCO / PERRIN / KW / POWERED BY MAX / SPARCO / STOPTECH / BREMBO / ROCKET BUNNY / FULL-RACE twin scroll / OS GIKEN / WHITELINE

12-13-2016, 09:24 PM	#6
Mr.ac [insert cool phrase here] Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: BRZ Premium Location: Central Coast CA Posts: 2,369 Thanks: 709 Thanked 1,558 Times in 930 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Congrats, it's a good car. The only down side the next years model will look way better. It's just like buying a PC, you know the next years products are going to be better and faster. Pretty much, I was in your shoes a few months ago, but I was unsure and didn't pull the trigger. __________________ New daily driver - Subaru BRZ Premium Weekend fun/track car - '91 MR2 Turbo Gen3 Old daily driver - '88 MR2 Supercharged

12-13-2016, 09:45 PM	#7
ryoma Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited CWP Location: SoCal Posts: 1,561 Thanks: 34 Thanked 669 Times in 469 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	do you notice the difference in how wide the Camaro is? I drove a buddies mustang and that thing was pretty wide to the point where I was having trouble judging where the edges of the car were. but then again, it probably was because I wasn't used to driving big cars (owned an MR2 and then the BRZ) __________________ My 2015 CWP BRZ Build

12-14-2016, 08:29 AM	#10
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Congrats, should be a fun car! __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

12-13-2016, 09:12 PM	#3
track junkie Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2022 Subaru BRZ Location: MO Posts: 98 Thanks: 29 Thanked 67 Times in 35 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The SS should be an exciting change coming from the BRZ. You should be able to lose your drivers license with ease now! I give you one month. Enjoy it while you can.

12-13-2016, 09:17 PM	#5
NLSP Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2014 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 517 Thanks: 414 Thanked 543 Times in 244 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Congrats! It looks great in blue. Let's just hope you don't have regrets after the honeymoon phase like this guy did after he traded his twin for a Mustang GT http://www.ft86club.com/forums//show....php?p=1772334

12-14-2016, 01:05 AM	#8
ToySub1946 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck Location: Eureka, Ca. Posts: 574 Thanks: 672 Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Sorry for your loss. I have, though older, a Mustang GT. Never drive it anymore. Just not the fun that I get from my FRS. Though my Mustang has lots of power, and a smooth as butter shifting Tremec trans, just does not handle curves like the 86 body. Assume you are much younger than myself. I can understand wanting the muscle car experience. Have fun just going for it for now.

12-14-2016, 10:23 AM	#13
Guru Woodman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Drives: 2015 BRZ Sport Tech CWP Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 515 Thanks: 265 Thanked 636 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Congrats, have fun with this different beast. It's like congratulating a dog owner with his new cat __________________

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