TODA lightweight pulley kit

[86TOYO2k17]

over-sized under-driven water/alt pulleys* and to my knowledge Fensport and Toda are the only two options. Also Fensport's are incredibly high quality.

Every serious person runs Fluidampr or ATI in their builds. LW crank pulleys do nothing but lighten your wallet. Balancers/dampeners help keep everything running smooth especially the more things you change about how the engine runs compared to stock. Some testing has even shown that increase in dampening ability especially in the higher RPMS reducing internal vibrations actually increased HP. Smoother engine and more HP or losing 3lbs from the equivalency of 1,000lbs of rotational force and possibly decrease the life expectancy of an engine. I guess to each their own right.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Every serious person runs Fluidampr or ATI in their builds. LW crank pulleys do nothing but lighten your wallet. Balancers/dampeners help keep everything running smooth especially the more things you change about how the engine runs compared to stock. Some testing has even shown that increase in dampening ability especially in the higher RPMS reducing internal vibrations actually increased HP. Smoother engine and more HP or losing 3lbs from the equivalency of 1,000lbs of rotational force and possibly decrease the life expectancy of an engine. I guess to each their own right.

Yeah sure. Exactly same TODA pulley kit on the ASM build car. So, these guys installed something just to get lower HP and to decrease the life expectancy of an engine that is very rare to find nowadays in good condition. These guys are competing and want to run their S2K's for years and years. How many can get 350PS from a 2.4L NA engine?



And same kit has been used in Japan on hundredth's 86/BRZ cars with thousandth's racing hours. It is really fun seeing people buying a Japanese car and then saying... WE KNOW BETTER!

[Dr. BRZ]

Nah homie, it don't work that way. Every lb and oz taken off the car counts in the total number. Have 2 twins with the exact same mods except one has the lighter versions and the other heavier versions. The lighter twin will always win. Weight reduction. I've had my go fast bits lw pullies for 4 years and i abuse my brz with street racing and autox and never had any problems

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

Nah homie, it don't work that way. Every lb and oz taken off the car counts in the total number. Have 2 twins with the exact same mods except one has the lighter versions and the other heavier versions. The lighter twin will always win. Weight reduction. I've had my go fast bits lw pullies for 4 years and i abuse my brz with street racing and autox and never had any problems

Sure a LW crank pulley drops roughly 3lbs, so whatever the difference between a 2750lbs twin and a 2747lbs twin would be the difference. "Rotational mass" from a LW pulley is the equivalent of dropping about 3lbs from a 1000lbs atlas stone and trying to push/roll it, would you know the difference between 997lbs and 1000lbs, is it technically easier and lighter sure.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Yeah sure. Exactly same TODA pulley kit on the ASM build car. So, these guys installed something just to get lower HP and to decrease the life expectancy of an engine that is very rare to find nowadays in good condition. These guys are competing and want to run their S2K's for years and years. How many can get 350PS from a 2.4L NA engine?



And same kit has been used in Japan on hundredth's 86/BRZ cars with thousandth's racing hours. It is really fun seeing people buying a Japanese car and then saying... WE KNOW BETTER!

TODA kit underdrives the accessories pulleys, so yeah it obviously makes more HP from less parasitic loss. No gains from the weight reduction of the crank pulley though, and possibly other negatives associated with that. still a net gain though. but fensport + fluidampr/ati is best of both worlds. less parasitic loss + better dampening capabilities. or stick to OEM crank and still get the underdriven bonus. Not saying its a bad kit, but better options available for same price or much cheaper.

[Tcoat]

[Captain Snooze]

I've got the fastest car because I've removed all the pulleys from the engine.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I've got the fastest car because I've removed all the pulleys from the engine.

For a few minutes anyways.

[86MLR]

Ahhh, I see, so adding pulleys is bad.

I was considering getting this.

This adds 2 pulleys, lucky I didn't hey..

Maybe I can compensate the parasitic loss of the supercharger by adding light weight pulleys.

Please note italics.

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

Ahhh, I see, so adding pulleys is bad.

I was considering getting this.

This adds 2 pulleys, lucky I didn't hey..

Maybe I can compensate the parasitic loss of the supercharger by adding light weight pulleys.

Please note italics.

You're in Australia, everything is backwards /upside down. In America, adding a supercharger can increase HP. I think where you live affects how much adding or removing pulleys does. Let's start a pulley/location graph to see who can get what and what the average pulley count should be based on your location.

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

You're in Australia, everything is backwards /upside down. In America, adding a supercharger can increase HP. I think where you live affects how much adding or removing pulleys does. Let's start a pulley/location graph to see who can get what and what the average pulley count should be based on your location.

Oh oh oh, I'll go first, I'm here, near the tree.

Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Let's start a pulley/location graph to see who can get what and what the average pulley count should be based on your location.

In Australia they are called "pushies".

[86MLR]

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

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