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07-20-2015, 09:27 AM | #1 |
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Headers, Over and Front pipe combo? need recommendations
so i currently have the N1 CB and i love the sound
now in the next few weeks im getting a header over and front pipe combo and im thinking to go all Invidia, is this good? if not can u guys recommend any nice combo for these things cause im going to that really loud noise even at low rpm thnks in advance
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i did googled it and found some combos but couldnt find a 1 brand combo
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Pretty much always a safe bet if running the same brand from one end to the other though.
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Also, from what I've read, there's not much reason to change the over pipe as it's not really as restrictive as other exhaust components. For the money you'd spend on an aftermarket over pipe, you'd get basically the same gains from a drop-in filter. And the price difference is about $50 compared to 150+. Even the front pipe you're only going to get a few HP/TQ's out of, from what I recall. The information is out there, you just need to spend an hour or so looking for it. As far as I know, Invidia doesn't make a header for the twins. But, there's tons of options out there. You can do it on the cheap, and have mediocre gains, or spend a lot and have good gains. If you're only really doing it for the sound you may be able to get away with spending less money. And, with removing the cat on the header, the resonator and the cat off the front pipe, you're going to have an obnoxiously loud set-up. I'd look into the HKS dual resonated front pipe and maybe even a header with a high flow cat. Unless of course you're ok with the noise and the (negative) attention you're going to attract to yourself. Another thing to consider is that not all mods play nice together and while there are gains on paper, there may be no benefit in the real world. You also need to consider tuning. If you're doing an OFT, unless you're going to get a custom tune done, you're basically paying $500 bucks for a little bit of extra power and a CEL eliminator. With ecutek, you'll get a custom tune and feel much more benefit, but at a higher cost. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. I'm learning as I go, and this is what I've picked up from reading on here. |
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The OFT has a lot more to offer than just a little bit more power and no CEL. With an OFT you can run E85, which is a lot more power. The OFT also acts as a gauge, to view readings in real time with customizable alerts. You can also reduce the high, loud idle post-start, as well as many other mods. There are also many members here who will help you learn how to tune, and will share tunes.
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The OFT can do nearly all the things that an ECUTek license gets you (custom tunes, flat foot shift, launch control...sure, no rev matching yet but enthusiasts usually turn that nonsense off...) but it also allows you the flexibility to fine tune things yourself after the fact. And OFT is regularly adding new features. But you keep on being you, Bergen. @Oakhenshield - I run a PTuning EL header, Perrin 2.5" overpipe and CNT Racing catted front pipe mated to a stock midpipe and a Nameless muffled track pipe. It sounds pretty phenomenal IMO. The N1 will probably be much quieter by comparison but also probably deeper in tone. I like the higher pitched myself - sounds more like the high revving racecar it is. Because, racecar.
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Actually, the more retarded the timing and/or the AVCS exhaust valve timing is, the louder it gets. That's the whole reason behind lowering startup idle speed, noise, and it's done by reducing speed and backing off the post-start timing retard. So, an OFT can be used to get the right sound as well.
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Thanks for the infos guys
tbh, the only thing im doing this for sound is that theres some frs in my town thats really loud even when stop at traffic light and it sounds really nice, at least for me. for you guys saying that im not getting to tune my frs, well i will soon just not now im doing my mods one at a time and the last thing on my mind is a turbo. idk if this is stupid but all my mods right now are for look, for now.
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Sign up for the electric supercharger now, then in a year when you're ready, your name will come up and you can boost electrically. You can keep your exhaust unchanged, and your stock intake as well.
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