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Old 05-23-2014, 09:40 AM   #477
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Maha. Reads lower than both
What would those numbers translate to on Bill's Mustang dyno
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:50 AM   #478
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What would those numbers translate to on Bill's Mustang dyno
It should be lower than bills mustang... I have never seen a dyno read this low. Stock cars run 125-135 typically around 130.
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What would those numbers translate to on Bill's Mustang dyno
Well, he stated a baseline of 130whp/113wtq.

That would mean the dyno reads at a rate of 35% loss.

At the shown 281/223, that would translate to 432/343 at the crank, based on 130whp being 200hp crank.

On a dynojet, that would be ~367whp (15% loss), or 354whp on a mustang (~18% loss). Approximately of course.
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Old 05-23-2014, 03:17 PM   #480
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I figured I would share a local's kit that I helped tune this week since he isn't on the forum. I wasn't expecting such a large gain from E85! I plotted a stock car in comparison to show how low this dyno reads. Stock car made 130whp/113wtq. Nearly a 135% power gain over stock! There were gains all the way down even at 1,500RPM.

The car has agency power headers, overpipe, i believe catless front pipe, stock midpipe back to the rear of midipe and then twin exit muffler delete.

Is this with stock injectors and pump?

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Is this with stock injectors and pump?
Dw700 iniectors dw65c pump. I would have to check the logs to see how close this was to working in oem injectors. I did do a few pulls up to around 7200rpm on completely stock fuel system on e85 before but I don't remember if it was pushing the di time too far or not I would say it's probably on the edge of what i would push in the ever you get e90 and some very cold weather.

Then again if you were to drop the redline just a hair it might be a lot more within oem fuel capacity.
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Stock car reads around low to mid 130's on our mustang if I remember correctly. It's been a long time since we actually had a stock car on there. My car is back to stock for a short time for some NA parts testing so I'll get a base run if you guys care to see what a stock car makes on our mustang :P The Dyno Dynamics down at HG Motorsports we were using for awhile also reads mid 130's for a stock FR-S, BRZ. It's not uncommon for a Dyno Dynamics, Mustang, Maha, just a matter of whether you're running it in true heartbreaker mode or any sort of sim mode. We always prefer the lowest, truest reading and it looks like you do too @nelsmar

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Old 05-27-2014, 01:16 AM   #483
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Would getting an aftermarket exhaust be a bad idea for the CARB tune kit? I'd like to add a distinctive exhaust note to my car along with other small benefits (weight savings, looks, etc)
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Would you guys say that the Jackson kit is superior to the other CARB legal FI options? I am in California, and I am heavily leaning toward the JR kit. Also, on the carb legal tune it is said there is a ~70 whp increase over stock.

What is the whp increase on a non-carb legal tune/map?
What is the whp increase running E85?

If I buy the kit straight up as it stands + an oil cooler, will I bet set? even if I want to periodically run E85 from time-to-time?

Will whp numbers change with the oil cooler as well?
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Would you guys say that the Jackson kit is superior to the other CARB legal FI options? I am in California, and I am heavily leaning toward the JR kit. Also, on the carb legal tune it is said there is a ~70 whp increase over stock.

What is the whp increase on a non-carb legal tune/map?
What is the whp increase running E85?

If I buy the kit straight up as it stands + an oil cooler, will I bet set? even if I want to periodically run E85 from time-to-time?

Will whp numbers change with the oil cooler as well?
Hey you. Only 1 question at a time. Yes, probably the best carb FI option at this time.

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Would getting an aftermarket exhaust be a bad idea for the CARB tune kit? I'd like to add a distinctive exhaust note to my car along with other small benefits (weight savings, looks, etc)
Catback? You'll be just fine.
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Would you guys say that the Jackson kit is superior to the other CARB legal FI options? I am in California, and I am heavily leaning toward the JR kit. Also, on the carb legal tune it is said there is a ~70 whp increase over stock.

What is the whp increase on a non-carb legal tune/map?
What is the whp increase running E85?

If I buy the kit straight up as it stands + an oil cooler, will I bet set? even if I want to periodically run E85 from time-to-time?

Will whp numbers change with the oil cooler as well?
Yes. We put our money where our mouth is.
Yes, 70-75whp in full CARB trim is accurate, with zero other mods.
On 91 octane? Rumor has it with supporting mods and a stock engine, you can extract plenty more
With E85 and supporting mods, even higher.
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You'll sustain the power with an oil cooler; I highly recommend it.

While we're at it, I wouldn't be surprised to see 400whp+ with a built engine and the Jackson Racing kit.
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Installed my kit this weekend.

Ah-freaking-mazing. It's everything advertised and more. It is, in my opinion, now the perfect DD / Track weapon.

Only small issue I had with the install, as previously stated by other owners, was bumper fitment. The pipes needed some man power to get into place, but this wasn't a big deal at all. Also, if Jackson Racing wanted to make this install completely brainless, they could create a installation guide with BOTH the oil cooler kit and SC kit steps combined. I had to flip back and forth between both kits, but just a suggestion more than a complaint. Install went very smooth.
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With this kit, should I get the installer to install clamps on the vacuum lines as mentioned on some of the other threads?
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With this kit, should I get the installer to install clamps on the vacuum lines as mentioned on some of the other threads?
Not a single owner has reported having that problem yet, but it certainly won't hurt.
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