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Old 08-30-2016, 03:23 PM   #1
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BEST COILOVER FOR DD WHILE LOOKING SEXY!

My budget is $1000
I need something that will lower my car to look sexy enough and still gives my a decent drive.

Recommendations?

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Old 08-31-2016, 10:16 AM   #2
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I think your CAPS LOCK is broken. Also... define "sexy." Good ride height or good-looking coilover hardware?

For salt-free environments and solid performance, I'd look at Suspension Techniques (ST Suspension).
If you want an OEM-like reliability for most environments, Bilstein B14 fits the budget.
If you want to go lower and don't mind some harshness, BC Racing's BR series works well. Tein and Fortune Auto are both solid options too.

Personally, I recommend lowering springs and shocks. Springs (RCE, Swift, TRD, or Eibach) and shocks (Bilstein, KONI, or Cusco) to get ~1" drop and a firmer damper without the hassle of bouncy ride quality and clunky pillowball mounts (like many budget coilovers will do). As an added bonus, TRD springs are SCCA C-street legal if you decide to autocross.
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:38 AM   #3
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i thought coilovers are not street legal...?

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i thought coilovers are not street legal
Troll here and there is fine... but almost every posts gets annoying. At least after the troll, post some actual info.

As for the OP, it's all up to what you're looking for from the suspension. coilover = lower ride/sexy isn't always the case. proper lower springs and struts can lower the ride making it looks sexy PLUS have solid ride to race in tracks/autox.

At first, look around and see how much lower you wanna get. From there, see what are the options: lower springs & struts combo or coilovers.

If you're wondering what I have, I have RS-R Sports-i coilovers. I can't remember my ride height though.

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Old 08-31-2016, 11:05 AM   #5
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Troll here and there is fine... but almost every posts gets annoying. At least after the troll, post some actual info.
I was being serious...every vendor selling these things say it's not for street use...guess i forgot the question mark...ill go edit it and add the ?

so now that i have your attention why do they say coilovers should not be used for the streets and only for the track?
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I was being serious...every vendor selling these things say it's not for street use...guess i forgot the question mark...ill go edit it and add the ?

so now that i have your attention why do they say coilovers should not be used for the streets and only for the track?
I don't remember seeing "track use only" coils. Good example Blitz ZZ-R coils are designed for Street use (RS-R Street-i & few other ones).

Some states are picky and even modifying of suspension (not only coils, but even lowering springs) are illegal. So just to be safe, some brands put that warning, so they won't get sued.
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:25 AM   #7
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Every manufacturer puts "for off road use only" on aftermarket parts to avoid having to go through DOT compliance. Doesn't mean you'll be fined for using them, just keeps the manufacturer out of legal issues if someone gets into an accident using their products and it was determined to be caused by the product.
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Old 08-31-2016, 12:01 PM   #8
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Tein Flex Zs. I've said it before, and i'll say it again: I'm not sure why anyone would consider anything else for a street driven car. It is absolutely the best coilover under 1k for street driving.
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why do they say coilovers should not be used for the streets and only for the track?
I do not know ‘them’, but...

Tracks are ‘usually’ flat and coilovers can ‘specifically’ be tuned for ‘that’ track, where little, or no further adjustment is required.

Streets are ‘usually’ uneven and vary, making coilovers almost impossible to “specifically” tune.

Tl;Dr:

There is a street reality where coilovers (imo) are an asset.

I live in a remote mountainous area where all 'twisty' roads are (imo) excellently engineered and consistently well maintained on a daily basis.

The only thing needed is to keep an eye out for rocks that have fallen on the road, …which are checked for and cleared several times a day.

My coilovers are adjusted to factory specs, with minor adjustment within spec range, that relate to my given location.

I am happy with this setup and suspension is always near the top of all my to-do vehicle lists.

Outside of here, with exception to visiting mechanics with the BRZ, the Forester serves me quite well.
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I just want a nice looking FRS. I will never track the car. I'm simply not good enough.
I want something that will drive good but doesn't need to be exactly oem driving or the best driving coils out there bc I'm not willing to drop that much money.

I'm also getting 18x9.5 +38 wheels. Do I need to roll fender or should I be okay?
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I just want a nice looking FRS. I will never track the car. I'm simply not good enough.
I want something that will drive good but doesn't need to be exactly oem driving or the best driving coils out there bc I'm not willing to drop that much money.

I'm also getting 18x9.5 +38 wheels. Do I need to roll fender or should I be okay?
Gotta pay to play. Just wanna drop just get Tein Flex Z call it a day
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Gotta pay to play. Just wanna drop just get Tein Flex Z call it a day
Or springs.
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Or springs.
Which I did recommend in my first post... but he wanna get 18x9.5 wheels... not sure struts gonna clear that.
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