FR-S Future Models 2016+

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Not this train again.........

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Not this train again.........

Yesiree!
Only thread 8735 on the subject (counting the ones that didn't start out as such but transgressed to it).
Gonna write up a standard response and start just copying it in every time we go down this road.
Of course could just ignore them but my forum OCD won't let me.

[Braces]

The FT1 is not going to compete with the 100K GTR. If anything ... I see the FT1 competing with the C7. It will require FI since we all know that Toyota does not like large displacement cars. Ive said this before. The 86 slots in at 25K. The upcoming FT1 will most likely be 50-60K. What fills the area between 25K and 50K?

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

2015 has slightly different front suspension though remember?
I think you mean it'll be the same car as 2015

It's still the same car though. Talking MAJOR changes.

Only natural for slight changes to happen to a model every couple years or so. Spring or damping changes is very minor. When we start talking about engine/drivetrain differences, then I'd consider it being different.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Braces

What fills the area between 25K and 50K?

Probably nothing. The manufacturers are not concerned with trying to fill every possible price point. If prices were in a liner sequence of models then they just rob their own upper or lower model sales so maintaining a buffer between is actually a good business plan. Like people have said in several hundred posts before, the gap could very nicely be filled by the high end used car market.

[axelo]

My opinion...i've always felt the car is all about the aftermarket scene! Clean and beautiful canvas (some one said before). Part of the fun of owning a twin is making it your own...

Copy....for future paste

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Braces

The FT1 is not going to compete with the 100K GTR. If anything ... I see the FT1 competing with the C7. It will require FI since we all know that Toyota does not like large displacement cars. Ive said this before. The 86 slots in at 25K. The upcoming FT1 will most likely be 50-60K. What fills the area between 25K and 50K?

Tada has already said repeatedly in public they have three levels planned, with the lowest one coming in below the GT86. The US target price is supposed to be $20K.

That would allow the twins to settle at the $30K mark. The FT1 would come in between $40K and $50K. All three levels would theoretically give you more sports car for less money than their rivals.

[civdaddy]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Probably nothing. The manufacturers are not concerned with trying to fill every possible price point. If prices were in a liner sequence of models then they just rob their own upper or lower model sales so maintaining a buffer between is actually a good business plan. Like people have said in several hundred posts before, the gap could very nicely be filled by the high end used car market.

I thinkk nothing as well. In the 90s toyota had the supra as the high end sports car, the mr2 as the lower end sports car, and the celica as the sportish grocery getter.

When the supra comes out, the frs and tc will essentially be the "mr2" and "celica" of the 90s.

History sure has a way of repeating itself.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by civdaddy

I thinkk nothing as well. In the 90s toyota had the supra as the high end sports car, the mr2 as the lower end sports car, and the celica as the sportish grocery getter.

When the supra comes out, the frs and tc will essentially be the "mr2" and "celica" of the 90s.

History sure has a way of repeating itself.

Exactly. I pretty much wrote a thesis on the subject on one of the other threads. The days of the car companies making multiple marks, with large numbers of trim levels and almost endless power/tranny options is long gone. They will pretty much stick to the line up you described with just enough changes to keep them "fresh".

[amilleri]

Originally Posted by civdaddy

I thinkk nothing as well. In the 90s toyota had the supra as the high end sports car, the mr2 as the lower end sports car, and the celica as the sportish grocery getter.

When the supra comes out, the frs and tc will essentially be the "mr2" and "celica" of the 90s.

History sure has a way of repeating itself.

Not if you include the celica gt4

[phobos512]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Tada has already said repeatedly in public they have three levels planned, with the lowest one coming in below the GT86. The US target price is supposed to be $20K.

That would allow the twins to settle at the $30K mark. The FT1 would come in between $40K and $50K. All three levels would theoretically give you more sports car for less money than their rivals.

The sub-86 is an entirely different platform. It's not an FT1 derivative. The TES T-Sports concept is theoretically supposed to be the basis for that vehicle.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by phobos512

The sub-86 is an entirely different platform. It's not an FT1 derivative. The TES T-Sports concept is theoretically supposed to be the basis for that vehicle.

I can't seem to find this concept car, could you post a picture?

[Sideways&Smiling]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I can't seem to find this concept car, could you post a picture?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=TES+T-Sports+concept

[themadscientist]

Whoever designed the styling of that car needs to have all his pencils broken.



It's likely the same guy responsible for the new, equally vomit-inducing Daihatsu Copen.